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Raila & Karua for Presidency 2022
Raila & Karua for Presidency 2022
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pingli-nywee
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Congrats man, for being an exception to the norm, such critical decisions definately call for very deep sober delibarations. Which for me, I am sad to say, that I haven't yet reached a clear conclusion to. I must say that I have been utterly dismayed, by the voters who jumped, head on, into their respective bandwagons. Very early in the 'game', even before the presidential aspirants officially announced their running mates.
I mean, its been very clear for all and sundry to see, in this current government, that a deputy president is no longer just a flower girl. Not in this current dispensation, brought about by the Constitution of Kenya 2010. As opposed to the Vice Presidents of the old days, who were most of the time just toothless henchmen and yes-men.
Ill be honest and say openly that the Odinga-Karua candidature and maybe presidency, seems more appealing at this juncture, than the Ruto-Rigathi one. That glaring fact was not always so evident, before Martha Karua and Rigathi Gachagua joined the fray.
I mean, its been very clear for all and sundry to see, in this current government, that a deputy president is no longer just a flower girl. Not in this current dispensation, brought about by the Constitution of Kenya 2010. As opposed to the Vice Presidents of the old days, who were most of the time just toothless henchmen and yes-men.
Ill be honest and say openly that the Odinga-Karua candidature and maybe presidency, seems more appealing at this juncture, than the Ruto-Rigathi one. That glaring fact was not always so evident, before Martha Karua and Rigathi Gachagua joined the fray.
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No human is perfect and also actions speak louder than words. Raila and Karua stood when Kenyans needed it the most especially during the tyrannical government of Moi. Both are progressive as seen in the fight for multiparty in 1992 and the 2010 constitution
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Ruto has set the bar high for deputy presidency. Future presidents must be weary of their DPs henceforth. The seat is powerful.
Judging from history, Martha anaeza sumbua kuliko Ruto. She has walked out of Moi's meeting when nobody could dare do something like that. She resigned as a minister during Kibakis term when Raila was prime minister.
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Offcourse no man is perfect. That being said, Raila-Karua and their bravery in the face of Moi's tyranny is now very evident. In contrast to Ruto-Rigathi, who right now can't escape the glare, of them both having been KANU henchmen, who did the dirty work for Mzee.
That fact would have been hidden under the 'rubble', if say the choices made for both running mates would have gone in different directions. It is a tough game of contrasts from now henceforth, my point lies in that fact, not in their individual characters.
I don't think it would be very easy for Raila and Karua to have a serious fall out, ideologically. They are both similar in that fashion, maybe in other spheres especially due to undue outside influences(outside their circles). My thoughts, anyway time will tell and all the best to whomever wins the race.
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Hahahaha, you give your support much more to Karua who is a just running mate than to Raila who is the one will be the president in case they win, " That is the real meaning of Tribalism at its peak".
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Mashashola
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I am proud and love my tribe, culture and country, i don't care if people stigmatize that by calling it tribalism
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You have to learn the difference between " tribe and Tribalism", Tribalism is a primitive and toxic way of life, only primitive people embrace it.
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Tukija kwenye suala la maadili, tiketi ya hawa wawili inafaa sana kwa nchi yetu, ila sasa nawasklizia kwenye sera zao za kiuchumi, wana vipao mbele gani haswa, malengo yapi, watatatua vipi kero tulizo nazo. Ukweli huyu mama nilitokea kumpenda sana kwa ajili ya misimamo yake, na akiwa naibu wa rais, tutakua na uhakika wa udhabiti.
Japo wasiwasi wangu pia ni ile kwamba wote wawili wanafahamika kama watu wasio yumbishwa kwa vyovyote vile, maana kwamba ile siku watalumbana baina yao, tutegemee patafuka moshi kiasi cha huduma kukwama. Huyo mama lazima adhihirishe atakua tayari kumskliza rais wake, kumshauri na kuendana naye kwa maslahi mapana ya taifa, na sio kusigana kwenye kila hoja, sera au maamuzi, itapaswa afahamu na kukubali kuwa tuna rais mmoja na ndye amiri jeshi mkuu.
Naye Raila pia ana sifa au historia za dharau kwa wapambe wake, tuliona alichokifanya kwa akina Kalonzo enzi zile, huvuruga mahusiano kizembe sana na hana histora ya kuyadumisha, inapaswa awe tayari kukubali katiba mpya inampa mgombea mwenza mamlaka, hivyo ajifunze mapema kumheshimu na kutafuta namna wataendana kwenye kila hali bila kuvurugana, na awe mtu wa kushaurika, sio kujipga kifua na matamko ya mikwara muda wote.
Tuliona kilichotendeka kwa majirani zetu kusini pale mkiongozwa na rais asiyeshaurika na mgomvi, mnaishia kurudi nyuma sana, ifahamike majirani zetu wana raslimali nyingi hivyo hata wakirudi nyuma bado wana nafasi za kunyanyuka na kuanza upya, sisi hatuna hiyo nafasi nyuma yetu, tukirudi ndio basi.
Pia Raila ajaribu sana kurekebisha mahusiano yake na Museveni, ile nchi ni mshirika wetu mkubwa kiuchumi, tusitunishiane misuli.
Japo wasiwasi wangu pia ni ile kwamba wote wawili wanafahamika kama watu wasio yumbishwa kwa vyovyote vile, maana kwamba ile siku watalumbana baina yao, tutegemee patafuka moshi kiasi cha huduma kukwama. Huyo mama lazima adhihirishe atakua tayari kumskliza rais wake, kumshauri na kuendana naye kwa maslahi mapana ya taifa, na sio kusigana kwenye kila hoja, sera au maamuzi, itapaswa afahamu na kukubali kuwa tuna rais mmoja na ndye amiri jeshi mkuu.
Naye Raila pia ana sifa au historia za dharau kwa wapambe wake, tuliona alichokifanya kwa akina Kalonzo enzi zile, huvuruga mahusiano kizembe sana na hana histora ya kuyadumisha, inapaswa awe tayari kukubali katiba mpya inampa mgombea mwenza mamlaka, hivyo ajifunze mapema kumheshimu na kutafuta namna wataendana kwenye kila hali bila kuvurugana, na awe mtu wa kushaurika, sio kujipga kifua na matamko ya mikwara muda wote.
Tuliona kilichotendeka kwa majirani zetu kusini pale mkiongozwa na rais asiyeshaurika na mgomvi, mnaishia kurudi nyuma sana, ifahamike majirani zetu wana raslimali nyingi hivyo hata wakirudi nyuma bado wana nafasi za kunyanyuka na kuanza upya, sisi hatuna hiyo nafasi nyuma yetu, tukirudi ndio basi.
Pia Raila ajaribu sana kurekebisha mahusiano yake na Museveni, ile nchi ni mshirika wetu mkubwa kiuchumi, tusitunishiane misuli.