Raila Odinga - Votes were rigged

Raila Odinga - Votes were rigged

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[h=1]Kenya election: Raila Odinga camp says vote 'doctored'[/h]
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The BBC's James Copnall reports from Nairobi where he says the allegations are "strong" but "relatively wooly"


The ballot count in Kenya's presidential elections has been rigged, says Kalonzo Musyoka, the running mate of Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

"We have evidence the results we have received have been doctored," he said.
He said the vote count should be stopped but added that his comments were not a call for protest.
Mr Odinga has been trailing behind his rival, Uhuru Kenyatta. There have been severe delays in counting as the electronic system has crashed.
Following the latest allegation, the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) is holding a closed-door meeting with various high commissioners and ambassadors, the BBC Swahili's Idris Situma reports.
The chairman of the IEBC is due to address journalists later on Thursday.
More than 1,000 people were killed in the violence which broke out in 2007-08 after Mr Odinga claimed he had been cheated of victory by supporters of President Mwai Kibaki, who is stepping down after two terms in office.
Mr Kenyatta, who backed Mr Kibaki, is due to stand trial at the International Criminal Court (ICC) next month, accused of organising attacks on members of ethnic groups seen as supporters of Mr Odinga. He denies the charges.
Fall in rejected ballotsMr Musyoka said the failure of the electronic vote transmission system earlier this week had allowed results to be rigged.
"We as a coalition take the position the national vote-tallying process lacks integrity and has to be stopped and re-started using primary documents from the polling stations," he said on Thursday.
But Mr Musyoka also called on Kenyans to remain calm.
"It is not a call to mass action. We are committed as a coalition to the principle of the rule of law."
Continue reading the main story[h=2]Raila Odinga vs Uhuru Kenyatta[/h]
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Uhuru Kenyatta

  • Son of Kenya's first President Jomo Kenyatta
  • Due to stand trial at ICC in April accused of organising violence in last election
  • His running mate, William Ruto, also accused
  • Both deny the charges
  • From Kikuyu ethnic group - Kenya's largest at 22% of population and powerful economically
  • Kikuyus and Ruto's Kalenjin community saw fierce clashes after 2007 poll
  • Currently deputy prime minister
Raila Odinga

  • Son of first Vice-President Jaramogi Oginga Odinga
  • Distant relative of Barack Obama
  • Believes he was cheated of victory in last election
  • From Luo community in western Kenya - 11% of population.
  • Some Luos feel they have been marginalised by central government
  • Third time running for president
  • Currently prime minister under power-sharing deal to end violence last time


Meanwhile, senior members of Mr Odinga's coalition have given the BBC further details about their allegations, saying that the number of ballots counted exceeded that of votes cast.
The long delays, and these new accusations are increasing the tension surrounding the polls, the BBC's James Copnall reports from the capital, Nairobi.
However, until they see comprehensive evidence, many Kenyans will remain sceptical, our correspondent says.
Following glitches with hi-tech voting and counting systems, the vote-tallying process was started again from scratch, and by hand, on Wednesday.
Results were only being announced after the ballots had been physically delivered to election headquarters in Nairobi, rather than being filed electronically.
The latest figures indicate Mr Kenyatta has maintained his lead over Mr Odinga, with 2.5m (53%) votes to 1.9m (42%) - as originally indicated.
However, the new figures show that the number of rejected ballots, which has been a major issue, has sharply come down.
In the initial count, some 300,000 votes - about 6% - were disqualified for various reasons.
This figure has now come down to about 40,000. While the reason for the drop remains unclear, some observers said that election officials were being too strict first time round.
Mr Kenyatta's Jubilee coalition had rejected calls for some of these ballots to be included, as requested by Mr Odinga's allies.
It also accused the British High Commissioner in Kenya of "canvassing to have rejected votes tallied" in an attempt to deny Mr Kenyatta outright victory in Monday's vote.
The UK Foreign Office said claims of British interference were "entirely false and misleading''.
Meanwhile, correspondents say one of the reasons for the many spoiled votes is that Kenyans had, for the first time, six ballot papers to fill in, which may have caused confusion.
The winning candidate must get more than 50% of the total votes cast and at least 25% of votes in half of the 47 counties. The latter was a requirement introduced in the new constitution to make sure the new president wins with wide support, rather than only with the backing of voters in his regional and ethnic strongholds.
If there is no clear winner, a second round of voting will take place, probably on 11 April.
 
The worst observation I see here is that, Kenyans are returning to the 2007 events soon, if stringent and more serious measures are not taken early. I am wondering, why is the Commission having discussions with international dignitaries instead of Kenyans in a closed manner? I have not been in trust of the use of technology in controversial issues such as elections; we need to embrace our own used mechanisms of managing things like manual counting that reduces Complaints and therefore likelihood of unnecessary misunderstandings that I am now smelling in Kenya. Ooooh God, be between and among Kenyans amidst of this controverse
 
The worst observation I see here is that, Kenyans are returning to the 2007 events soon, if stringent and more serious measures are not taken early. I am wondering, why is the Commission having discussions with international dignitaries instead of Kenyans in a closed manner? I have not been in trust of the use of technology in controversial issues such as elections; we need to embrace our own used mechanisms of managing things like manual counting that reduces Complaints and therefore likelihood of unnecessary misunderstandings that I am now smelling in Kenya. Ooooh God, be between and among Kenyans amidst of this controverse

Absolutely,
this is clearly a rewind of the 2007 post election series of events
In all honesty, If there is one country in Africa that dearly needs to make use of the most advanced vote-tallying technologies, it is Kenya. There needs to be a voting system that leaves the most minimal room for error and manipulation. Indeed the manual system having failed to produce doubtless results since the Oginga Odinga times, presents the biggest trigger for these now usual, violences.
 
Absolutely,
this is clearly a rewind of the 2007 post election series of events
In all honesty, If there is one country in Africa that dearly needs to make use of the most advanced vote-tallying technologies, it is Kenya. There needs to be a voting system that leaves the most minimal room for error and manipulation. Indeed the manual system having failed to produce doubtless results since the Oginga Odinga times, presents the biggest trigger for these now usual, violences.

Yap, but where are they heading now? If I read well the thread "they are now going for Manual tallying." Right?
 
Yap, but where are they heading now? If I read well the thread "they are now going for Manual tallying." Right?

Thats true. That's why I think Kenya needs a more faultless automation of the voting system. At least for the sake of the forthcoming elections.
 
I know Raila won't accept the result!
 
Let us be objective. At the beginning when the electronic voting system was working properly Mr. Uhuru was leading. After the electronic tallying system failed and when the manual counting system started, Mr. Uhuru continued to lead. So, what are the bases for Mr. Rail and his allies protest of the results? I thing they messed somewhere in their campaigns although it is hard to trust some kikuyus anyway.
 
From afar, I see American and British involvements of which both support Raila. The implications of this is so obvious; brings in a peril of peaceful end which is by now in jeopardy. Let us pray for a better end...
 
From afar, I see American and British involvements of which both support Raila. The implications of this is so obvious; brings in a peril of peaceful end which is by now in jeopardy. Let us pray for a better end...

Johnnie Carson already said "Choices have consequences,". "We live in an interconnected world and people should be thoughtful about the impact that their choices have on their nation, on the region, on the economy, on the society and on the world in which they live. Choices have consequences."
 
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