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alafu mm watu wa forex kwenye ili jukwaa nadeal nao vizuri kabisa maana kna mda bila watu kulizwa ela kelele znakua nyingi nani mkwel nan muongoUjuaji mwingi ni mzigo
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alafu mm watu wa forex kwenye ili jukwaa nadeal nao vizuri kabisa maana kna mda bila watu kulizwa ela kelele znakua nyingi nani mkwel nan muongoUjuaji mwingi ni mzigo
Nilipoona hii thread niliamua leo nitenge muda wa kusoma comment zote hatimaye sasa hivi saa 2 na robo nimemaliza kazi yangu niliyopanga kuifanya na hapa nataka nitoe conclusion yangu based on facts:- kupanga ni kuchagua, mwisho kabisa wanofanikiwa kwenye forex HAWAFANYI TRADING na HAWASOMI CHARTS na ni asilimia 0.1% tu duniani, na kwenye hio 0.1% asilimia 90% yake trading znafanyika electronically kwa lugha nyepesi ni mashine znatrade sio binadam wengine wanafanya kama investment funds, hedge funds na sio kusoma charts
- ukitaka kuchukua ushauri wewe tu usipotaka wewe tu pia, finally all you know about forex is wrong kama huelewi tu price znacalculatiwa vp basi acha kupoteza mda
Nilipoona hii thread niliamua leo nitenge muda wa kusoma comment zote hatimaye sasa hivi saa 2 na robo nimemaliza kazi yangu niliyopanga kuifanya na hapa nataka nitoe conclusion yangu based on facts:
Fact 1
Forex kama forex ni kitu real na kinagenerate real income kama kazi nyingine so swala la kusema huwezi ukaishi kwa kuitegema forex huo ni uongo FOREX IPO NA INALIPA.
Fact 2
Forex in general iko based na personal mind decision anavyotrade juma sio sawa na atakavyotrade ally na kamwe hamuwezi kufanana coz decisions zina depend na psychology ya trader mwenyewe hata ufundishwe trading na waren buffet au ray dalio huwezi kufanikiwa kama wao.
Fact 3
Kama forex ni psychological matter that means unatakiwa uwe na high skills za kubalance logical and emotional intelligence [hapa ndio traders wengi wanapofeli] because mafanikio yako yanadepend asilimia 100 na decisions zako ukiwa unatrade so usipofanikiwa tatizo sio broker, tatizo sio spreads, tatizo sio mtaji mdogo wala tatizo sio leverage TATIZO NI WEWE/THE PROBLEM IS YOU period.
Cha mwisho forex inalipa ila sio rahisi kama inavyoonekana instagram na platform nyingine nataka kila mtu aelewe kwamba kila kazi/biashara ina siri zake za mafanikio na hakuna mtu atakupa hizi siri kwenye online session ya wiki 1 au youtube videos au whatsapp groups labda kwa asilimia ndogo sana unaweza kuzipata hizi siri kwenye vitabu tena vile vitabu ambavyo ni deep kweli kweli in general forex utajifunza vizuri na kuiva kupitia makosa na hii ndio njia pekee ya kujua siri za hii biashara ni lazima uingie vitani na market makers wenyewe ujifunze kupitia real market situation then ukishakomaa psychologically ndio utauona mwanga na kuenjoy forex life tofauti na hapo ni kupoteza muda tu.
Kama huamini trading ina pesa nenda coco beach mida ya jioni ndo utajua bongo kuna traders wanapesa chafu na wametulia hawana habari wala kelele.
Achana na matrader wa south africa na nigeria wengi ni waongo waongo.
Mfano mzuri huu hapa
Huyu ni full time trader wa USA hajawahi kufanya kazi nyingine zaidi ya kutrade GOLD since 2016.
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Tazama hii movie inayoelezea vizuri kuhusu financial markets and love huko USA
Inaelezea trading life na love life ya couple moja ndani ya jiji la new york inavyostruggle kufanikiwa na maisha ya kila siku kwenye hedge fund kubwa huko new york, kuna unyama mwingi umeelezewa huku ndani ila unatakiwa utulize kichwa kuelewa kila kitu
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Tatizo lako unagoogle sana husomi vitabu, kuwa EX CHEQUERS BOT unadhani ndio kujua kila kitu kuhusu ECONOMICS kujifanya unajua sanaaa hakukufanyi kuwa bora zaidi ya wote bali unaonekana chizi.kama umesoma charts zote basi kuna sehem umesoma nmesema nshafanya kazi kwenye desk ya EX CHEQUERS(BOT) sasa wewe endelea na theory zako na kujiona mjanja
unatia huruma sana hakuna kitu kinaitwa FOREX MARKET either interbank wala yanga bank, any asset you trade on the financial market is based on FLOATING RATES sio rates halisia, EURGBP GBPUSD all these rates are flaoting rates, KSHTSH all these are floating rates, ukichukua tsh ukabadiliaha kwenda ksh then USD you wont make any profit, because they arent real pairs and they dont reflect real economyTatizo lako unagoogle sana husomi vitabu, kuwa EX CHEQUERS BOT unadhani ndio kujua kila kitu kuhusu ECONOMICS kujifanya unajua sanaaa hakukufanyi kuwa bora zaidi ya wote bali unaonekana chizi.
BOT napajua vizuri wala sio mgeni nilikua BANKER kwenye kitengo hiki hiki cha kutrade assets ila nimeresign office work sasa hv natrade forex full time coz niliona ujinga kuwatengenezea bank 100 Million every month from trading alafu mwisho wa mwezi wanipe cheque ya 2 Million nikaona ufala nikasepa zangu.
Anyway turudi kwenye mada...
Ulichoeleza hapo juu nikweli wala sikupingi kwamba central banks hawatrade kwa faida ila nachokupinga ni pale unaposema wanoatrade forex hakuna kitu wanafanya wanapoteza muda wakati kuna traders wanamaisha kuliko waziri wa fedha wa bongo sijui unanielewa.
Ukiweza kujibu hili swali labda naweza kuendelea kukuelimisha maana naona bado mweupe sana kuhusu economics;
Swali langu ni kwamba, je unajua kwamba kuna THE INTERBANK MARKET na kuna THE FOREX INTERBANK MARKET sasa nataka uniambie kati ya hizo market mbili ni market ipi ambayo CENTRAL BANK inahusika na market ipi ambayo hausiki.
Nakupa hint ukishindwa kujibu we ni fala na usicomment tena kwenye hii thread:
Kwenye hizo market mbili kuna moja ambayo central banks ndio wanadrive asset prices ambazo forex traders wanatrade kwa mabroka.
Punguza theory unaongea vitu huvijui, maisha sio movieNakupa hadi reference za movies ukaangalie unashindwa umekazana kubishana tu bila facts eti forex traders hakuna kitu wanafanya wanapoteza muda.
By the way, tangu umekua BOT EX CHEQUERS umemake kiasi gani mpaka sasa au bado unawork for pay check maana unanipa mashaka umefocus na BOT badala kufocus na achievements zako AMKA SASA.
Either uamini kama forex ipo au haipo, inalipa au hailipi perception zako hazitobadilisha chochote kwenye maisha ya watu.
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We nae fala world d wide ma engineer akina mark Douglass wana trade forex, afu wewe kutoka huko mabonde kwinama uje useme scam😂. Amka bro umerogwaPunguza theory unaongea vitu huvijui, maisha sio movie
Ndo maana nakwambia ujuaji wako unakufanya uonekane chizi.unatia huruma sana hakuna kitu kinaitwa FOREX MARKET either interbank wala yanga bank, any asset you trade on the financial market is based on FLOATING RATES sio rates halisia, EURGBP GBPUSD all these rates are flaoting rates, KSHTSH all these are floating rates, ukichukua tsh ukabadiliaha kwenda ksh then USD you wont make any profit, because they arent real pairs and they dont reflect real economy
- 😂 😂 😂 forex ni exchange sio trade, unachofanya wewe kinaitwa betting na sio trading! u cant trade forex because there is no market for it, brokers are scamming you, we endelea kukariri ngoja tukupe reference kidogo maaana hujui ata unadeal na nnWe nae fala world d wide ma engineer akina mark Douglass wana trade forex, afu wewe kutoka huko mabonde kwinama uje useme scam😂. Amka bro umerogwa
bongo mtu anaweza kua mjinga na akawa proud, huyo mtu ni wewe! hakuna alie na obligation ya kukuelewesha wala kukufundisha, baki na ujinga wakoNdo maana nakwambia ujuaji wako unakufanya uonekane chizi.
Unataka kumuaminisha kila mtu kwamba hakuna forex kwasababu wewe hujawahi kutrade wala kudownload mt4 pure foolish mind.
Swali la kawaida umeshindwa kujibu, umeprove hakuna unachojua infact we bado mweupe sana usipige tena makelele yako yakipumbavu hapa.
We ni mpinga maendeleo unafaa ukamatwe upigwe mawe maana unapotosha vijana na kuwakosesha fursa.
Ndo maana nakwambia ujuaji wako unakufanya uonekane chizi.
Unataka kumuaminisha kila mtu kwamba hakuna forex kwasababu wewe hujawahi kutrade wala kudownload mt4 pure foolish mind.
Swali la kawaida umeshindwa kujibu, umeprove hakuna unachojua infact we bado mweupe sana usipige tena makelele yako yakipumbavu hapa.
We ni mpinga maendeleo unafaa ukamatwe upigwe mawe maana unapotosha vijana na kuwakosesha fursa.
Ndo maana nakwambia ujuaji wako unakufanya uonekane chizi.
Unataka kumuaminisha kila mtu kwamba hakuna forex kwasababu wewe hujawahi kutrade wala kudownload mt4 pure foolish mind.
Swali la kawaida umeshindwa kujibu, umeprove hakuna unachojua infact we bado mweupe sana usipige tena makelele yako yakipumbavu hapa.
We ni mpinga maendeleo unafaa ukamatwe upigwe mawe maana unapotosha vijana na kuwakosesha fursa.
Ndo maana nakwambia ujuaji wako unakufanya uonekane chizi.
Unataka kumuaminisha kila mtu kwamba hakuna forex kwasababu wewe hujawahi kutrade wala kudownload mt4 pure foolish mind.
Swali la kawaida umeshindwa kujibu, umeprove hakuna unachojua infact we bado mweupe sana usipige tena makelele yako yakipumbavu hapa.
We ni mpinga maendeleo unafaa ukamatwe upigwe mawe maana unapotosha vijana na kuwakosesha fursa.
kijana wa nadharia sjakuskia.. usije kukata moto 😂Tazama hii movie inayoelezea vizuri kuhusu financial markets and love huko USA
Inaelezea trading life na love life ya couple moja ndani ya jiji la new york inavyostruggle kufanikiwa na maisha ya kila siku kwenye hedge fund kubwa huko new york, kuna unyama mwingi umeelezewa huku ndani ila unatakiwa utulize kichwa kuelewa kila kitu
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Trading financial assets instruments at cfd brokerage industry ni betting Fulani Ila sio kuwa ni hii blindly betting.
We're doing an educated guess, we're find an edge where, a mathematical edge that can exploit positive results using laws of probability.
Probability ni ngumu mno kwa human mind ku handle ,labda kwa mashine unaweza ikafanya vizuri kuliko human.
Halafu why mnatumia forex which just a fraction of trading which is the whole game.
Naomba niulize trading stocks ie real stocks and some financial instruments assets nazo hazina uhalisia.
Kile wanachokifanya USA Mana watu Wana trade real financial assets like futures, options and stocks nazo sio uhalisia stakehigh ???
Huku ni kweli tuna trade just price ama tuna beti price of real financial instruments asset itaendaje Ila sio kuwa tunazimiliki na tunategemea wale wanao trade real live market ndio wasogeze 📉 sie huku ni kubashiri.
Trading kuifanya ikulipe inahitajika skills aka mental skills baadaye inabidi uwe na mtaji mkubwa ili uwe una target like 5-10% monthly bila kuhatarisha akaunti yako kwa tamaa ya kutaka utajiri wa haraka.
Swali jingine
Hedge fund ,mutual , investment banks, assets management funds wanafanya nini.
Kazi zao hasahasa wanafanya nini
Your arent doing any guess but unadhan tu hisia zako zko sahihi, which is wrong! financial markets znandeshwa kwa kutumia FLOATING RATES, unlike crypto ambazo prices znakua derived pale pale kwenye exchange! ila other CENTRALIZED assets are only FLOATING RATES, tatizo ni when your trading assets znazohusiana na forex you over estimate yourself and think your experienced wakati izi markets wala hakuna cha experience ni pure gambling, thats why most forex people are poor, they over estimate the whole process kwa sababu hawaelewi izo prices zkoje na znatoka wap
when you trade stocks on a STOCK BROKERyour actually owning the stock and you have all the rights of that stock that includes but not limited to CAPITAL GAIN, DIVIDENDS and company ownership but when you BET it on a FOREX BROKER the prices you use are only a reflection of whats happening on the STOCK MARKET, you cant claim that stock nor get any advantages of that stock, however also understand STOCKS are centralized and they arent pron to FLOATING RATES manipulation, you can check more here:
the same applies to BETING crypto from forex broker,you cant claim the crypto you own nor cant you use it to make purchases, a forex broker is simply GIVE ME MONEY TO ALLOW YOU TO BET, the more you loose he remains with your cash and thats an awsome profit for him, 100% profit to be precise
when you trade on a stock broker or crypto exchange, its called SPOT means you can move your share or asset if you would want
when you perform anything outside SPOT you are actually betting, also the prices arent the same to exact as the real trading, for example you can trade same same BTC at binance using derivates such as FUTURES TRADING, which works the same as forex, same applies to options and other non spot, in forex you can trade current using SPOT if you want to deal with the real forex, for example there is a desk (BOT) that deals with liquidating all curriencies with other central banks, for example we might have alot of TSH and we lack USD, central bank can liquidate tsh reserves and purchase USD at central bank of kenya, they do this when country is in need of the USD for example making imports, but the mt4 humans will want to look at the charts and predict thinngs like these which is impossible
you dont need skills, you need appropriate information thats all, trading isnt magic and no one has ever mastered it, you cant trade on what you dont understand, trading is over estimated
the best you can do to make it, is to trade ELECTRONICALLY thats what hedge funds do, you make mabe 100 trades in 1 second, anything outside that is pure fallacy and we wont run out of people who want to teach for a living
Trading financial assets instruments at cfd brokerage industry ni betting Fulani Ila sio kuwa ni hii blindly betting.
We're doing an educated guess, we're find an edge where, a mathematical edge that can exploit positive results using laws of probability.
Probability ni ngumu mno kwa human mind ku handle ,labda kwa mashine unaweza ikafanya vizuri kuliko human.
Halafu why mnatumia forex which just a fraction of trading which is the whole game.
Naomba niulize trading stocks ie real stocks and some financial instruments assets nazo hazina uhalisia.
Kile wanachokifanya USA Mana watu Wana trade real financial assets like futures, options and stocks nazo sio uhalisia stakehigh ???
Huku ni kweli tuna trade just price ama tuna beti price of real financial instruments asset itaendaje Ila sio kuwa tunazimiliki na tunategemea wale wanao trade real live market ndio wasogeze 📉 sie huku ni kubashiri.
Trading kuifanya ikulipe inahitajika skills aka mental skills baadaye inabidi uwe na mtaji mkubwa ili uwe una target like 5-10% monthly bila kuhatarisha akaunti yako kwa tamaa ya kutaka utajiri wa haraka.
Swali jingine
Hedge fund ,mutual , investment banks, assets management funds wanafanya nini.
Kazi zao hasahasa wanafanya nini