Reason why USA firms prefer hardworking Kenyans

You must be sleeping on the wheel, we're talking the impact of Africans and Kenyans emigrating to foreign land leaving Africa with no one to move it forward. So if Cuba is losing her own medical personnel why would that concern you? Do you think British or American will pause for a second and think the impact will leave behind when they assign an A class doctor Kenya or Nigeria?

The whole point of my argument is to highlight the issue of brain drain in Africa which has been going on for the past 40yrs. Doctor to patient ratio in African is the lowest compare to the rest of the world, other sectors is the same story. Lame excuse like our economies can't afford to keep all that talents doesn't hold water. Kenya for example, it has export 3 million economic migrant, but it has received 100,000+ foreign workers. This shows that Kenya is not creating enough jobs to keep the 3million at home and earn taxes at same time solving Kenya's problems. Its not that Kenya economy has been stress far and wide to say there no room to grow, is because remittance money is easy to earn even though is risky because it has not protection of trade agreement.
 
The issue of brain drain to some extent is overrated. You also have to understand that the already developed countries will always have an edge over the developing ones. You can't manage the exodus that is being realized in one go. I gave you an example of Cubans coming here. That was meant to show you how people are no longer the infamous sitting ducks in their comfort zones. However, that does not mean that they on are the loosing end to have their doctors here hence Kenya is not an exceptional having its citizens working abroad.
If Kenya could have exhausted or drained it's cream of the society as a result of having her people work overseas, then it should be one of the poorest countries in Africa in accordance to your claim. Assuming that we've drained our very own brain than your country Tanzania. How more better are you guys as compared to us now that you've not drained yours as we've done with ours?. Maybe we can have something to learn from you if you prove me otherwise. Do you know the much we had in terms of our economy at independence as compared to now?. We've managed to keep as many of them at home as compared to the then days due to the growing economy. Slowly we shall be there, even if it forces us work for them to secure the much needed remittances for a better tomorrow.
 
Haha brain drain is overrated? Are you serious? Maybe not. All Studies, international conferences, thesis, journal published indicate that there is problem and its huge problem. I posted a link here before from UN giving a live examples how brain drain is affecting country like Kenya. Poor people suffers the most compare to rich people who can afford to fly to India for further medical treatments. I was expecting to hear "overrated" from someone who didn't care about African future. Very few expatriates do turn back and bring their expertise to Africa but most of them would rather work till their retirement or return back in the box.

Kenya is still a poor country, you might all try your level best to paint rosy picture about Kenya, you still have huge section of people are still with no medical insurance, or adequate food to eat, or clean water. In Tanzania we have a brain drain the issues as well, but the problem isn't as bad as other countries in Africa. Tanzanians they tend to stay at home rather than emigrating abroad, very few Tanzanians are living and working abroad. This shows the amount of money it received from the diasporas abroad ($450 million) 2017.

It might be beneficial to you to revisit the agreement sign to bring Cuban doctors to Kenya. The agreement was between GoK and Cuban Gov, rather than individual doctors. Cuban doctors are still Gov employees in Cuba, you can't compare that with a loner doctor from Muranga or Malindi who abandoned his post to take a new job in Switzerland or UK. As much as Cuban doctors get paid, which is higher than Senators or MP's, closer to the President and his deputy salary. GoK will also pay Cuban Gov X amount of money which Jubilee has sworn to keep it secret. Unlike remittance, Cuban money is guaranteed by bilateral agreement between the two governments. And on top of that, Cuban is sending surplus of it medic. Patient to doctor ratio in Cuba much higher in the world..
 
burudani sana kuona Wakenya & WaTz mishipa ikiwatoka kupakana shombo!😀😛
 
Hahahaaa!. You are shaming yourself here. The fact that Tanzanian diaspora are few and remitting less money to you mean that Tanzanians economy keeps them at home?. That's your opinion, otherwise it might also be translated that Tanzanians are not competitive enough at the international platform.
You keep on ducking my question, if you answer me satisfactorily I'll let you go. With a classical example of Tanzania as a country, you say the brain drain in Kenya is depriving off African it's people that could otherwise help drive this continent forward economically, What strides have you people made more than Kenya for your claim to be valid?.
 
ArIeN said:
burudani sana kuona Wakenya & WaTz mishipa ikiwatoka kupakana shombo!😀😛
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Hii ni nzuri mno , ngoja tuwabadili tabia ya kinyangau ili tuishi nao vizuri. I like this baada ya muda tutakuwa marafiki wazuri mno tena watani.
 
I don’t think you’ll say Americans or Japanese are not comparative enough that's why their fewer of them living and working abroad. Its more of cultural thing than a case of being competitive, I mean are you competitive of taking other people's jobs? Why not creating your own? Being a peaceful nation and low on inequality has contributed to keep Tanzanians within their country. Everyone counts here unlike other countries where you have to fight for something which was actually meant to be yours.

You asked what have we archive by having more of our people within our borders, first we’ve archived harmony within our people. Tanzania is only country in EAC if not Africa ranks high on political stability, meaning people of all backgrounds can work together and come up with single collective agreement to archive their goal. Try that in any other EAC country and see what will happen. We manage not starve our people, its a goal which country like Kenya is struggling to archive. Wealth redistribution in Tanzania is something Kenya had admire for years and still learning from Tanzania. Economy achievement is not measured by GDP and big budgets alone, balanced in the society is the biggest indicator that a country has made economical advancement. Everyone has to count, if the GDP is distributed to the very few and to the particular area of the country, that country will stand to loose it collectiveness and result of that loose it people. When there is chaos in country, professionals are the first one to abandon everything and run, country like Kenya had it’s own share of chaos compare to Tanzania. GDP growth can be off set very quickly if there is tear in the fabric of society, having tightly knitted society can guarantee stable progression of GDP growth.

Your ask the question now here is mine, why Kenya creates far fewer decent jobs compare to its peers in EAC? The answer to this will unlock the mystery why 3 million Kenyans chose to leave their country and seek work elsewhere.
 
Kenyans are resilient, the kind of resources Tanzania has compared to what Kenya has its like comparing heaven to earth. But regardless of the same, we beat you guys in many aspects as far as development is concerned. You ought to be ahead of us two or three folds. You've wrote too much literature that has not addressed my question.
 
Mnatakiwa mkapimwe akili!!!

Inakuwaje mnajisifu kujenga nchi ya wakoloni halafu nchi yenu still ipk hohehahe????¤¤

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Ahaaa haaa haaa
You nailed it my broda, any person disputing your discourse must be insane.
 


Brother here is not a debate society, where people keep on arguing till dawn.

Mwanzi1 has discussed with strong authority and citations but you didn't decipher rather you come up with a lame and uncollerated issues of resources. Who don't KNOW the truth that the continent is endowment but it has (most) the suffering people.

Talk the subject matter at hand "brain drain".
 
Ndyo series za kimarekani zinavyokudanganya!? Marekani ukilipwa dola elfu kumi kwa mwezi ni sawa na kulipwa dola elfu moja africa coz gharama za maisha pia zipo juu, apartment tu utalipa kuanzia dola 3000 na kuendelea wakati africa apartment ya aina hyp hyo unaweza ipata kwa dola 300

Kwa kukuelimisha ni kuwa waafrica wengi wanaenda kufanya kazi marekani sio kwa sababu ya mishahara mikubwa peke yake ...wengi wanaenda kwa ajili ya masuala km ya elimu kwa watoto wao, huduma za afya za kiwango cha juu na lifestyle kwa ujumla

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Mzungu anawavalisha kiremba cha ukoka yalivyo mazuzu yanashangilia!!!!!!!

I shake my head with shame!!!!

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Na huu ndyo tunaita modern slavery

Shida yote ya nini wakati unaweza ishi vizuri ukiwa nyumbani!!???

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Hahahaaa talking of a black kettle laughing a black pot. It's your friend who deviated away from the topic at hand. Point of of correction!. The topic is not about brain drain, it's about the preference of Kenyans in the US as one of the hardest workers. You can open a thread for brain drain and we'll discuss. Moreover, I don't believe that has anything to do with Kenya being more brain drained than her peers.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Hii wala sio pesa ya kushangilia, akiongezeka Trump mwingine kwenye uchumi wa dunia na kuweka 25% tariffs kwenye remittance zote. Hiyo pesa ndio bye bye.
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It is bigger than your revenues from tourism last year, more than your total fdi, more than ⅔ your tax revenue last year.....just appreciate that this is quite an effort, wacha longolongo.

I guess we can thank our lucky stars that there is only one Trump at the moment. Until those other Trumps emerge to disrupt this other crucial source of our foreign revenue, we will continue enjoying high remittances from our diaspora citizens in the meantime.
 
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