Good Guy
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Huenda hukusoma nilichoandika au ulisoma halafu hukuelewa
Nilikuambia kwamba kuna watu wanafanya mambo kwa kisingizio cha dini wakati dini zenyewe wanazodai kuzitetea ziko kinyume nao
Hayo makanisa yaliyokuwa yanawachoma watu moto yalikuwa na ngenda yao na sio kumtetea Mungu kwakuwa Mungu mwenyewe haitaji watu wamtetee kwa kuuwa watu wengine
Hivyo vita vya kwenye biblia ningekushauri uachane nanvyo kwakuwa havipo kama unavyodhani wewe,na kama vipo kama unavyodhani wewe ni bora akaleta ushahidi hapa
Nimekupa mfano wa dini zinazouwa kwa mujibu wadini hizo na sijui nikitu gani kinakufanya ulazimishe mambo ambayo hayapo!
A Liar
We know indeed that it grieves thee the things they say; yet it is not thee they cry lies to, but the evildoers - it is the signs of God that they deny. S. 6:33 Arberry
And if they call you a liar
And if they call you a liar, truly apostles before you were called liars, and to Allah are all affairs returned. S. 35:4 Shakir; cf. Q. 34:8; 42:24, say: My work is for me and your work for you; you are clear of what I do and I am clear of what you do. S. 10:41 Shakir
A Forger/Plagiarizer
And when it is said to them, 'What has your Lord sent down?' they say, 'Fairy-tales of the ancients.' S. 16:24 Arberry
And when We change a Verse [of the Qur'an, i.e. cancel (abrogate) its order] in place of another
Nay, they say: "These (revelations of the Qur'an which are inspired to Muhammad) are mixed up false dreams! Nay, he has invented it! Nay, he is a poet! Let him then bring us an Ayah (sign as a proof) like the ones (Prophets) that were sent before (with signs)!" S. 21:5 Hilali-Khan
But the misbelievers say: "Naught is this but a lie which he has forged, and others have helped him at it." In truth it is they who have put forward an iniquity and a falsehood. And they say: "Tales of the ancients, which he has caused to be written: and they are dictated before him morning and evening." Say: "The (Qur'an) was sent down by Him who knows the mystery (that is) in the heavens and the earth: verily He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." S. 25:4-6 Y. Ali; cf. Q. 6:25; 8:31; 10:38; 11:13, 35; 16:24; 83; 27:68; 46:8-9, 17; 52:33; 68:15; 83:13, and Allah knows the best of what He sends down, they (the disbelievers) say: "You (O Muhammad) are but a Muftari! (forger, liar)." Nay, but most of them know not. S. 16:101 Hilali-Khan
THIS IS HOW YOUR god OF BIBLE COMMUNICATES!!
1."I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)
2."Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses." (1 Samuel 15:3)
Hii maana yake nini?
M Mkwawa na huyo mwiislam mwenzako mmevamia thread na mnaichakachua kwa kuposti u.puuzi na uj.inga wenu wa kutukanana na kukashifiana,....i.e mmepotosha mwelekeo wa thread kwa ujuha na ufia dini wenu.,..please can you stop...!
maana yake i give up!!
Tell that to Mbokaleo. I'm not a Muslim.
Mpaka utoke kifungoni utakua umeipata
Wewe huyu humuoni?
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Na hii ayat ndio inawapa nguvu magaid akina Boko Haram:
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Yaani hii dini yenu hovyo sana,asiekubali dini yenu hii ndio adhabu yake:
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Mistari ya hovyo ni mingi sana kwenye kitabu hiki cha Mohammad aliyejipa cheo chaa uungu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yaani nyie bana!!!!!!!!
Huyo Muislam sio mwenzangu.
How many people has atheism killed?
Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead
Mao-Tse-Tung, Atheist: 40 million plus dead
Adolf Hitler, Atheist: 10 million plus dead
Pol Pot, Atheist: 2 million dead
Kim-Il-Sung, Atheist: 5 million dead
Just to name a few.
Fidel Castro, Atheist: 1 million dead
[TABLE="width: 100%"]THOSE NUMBERS HAS NO AUTHENTIC SOURCES AT ALL!!
WATCH HERE FROM OUR LOVING BIBLE!! HOW MANY PEOPLE THE god OF BIBLE KILLED!!
Ushasikia wavyotetea mauaji ya watoto? Eti sasa wakikua wakiamua kulipiza kisasi, ndomana mungu aliagiza wauawe tu.
Siku niliyosikia hiyo sababu, it was a point of no return for me.
Sijui kama jibu la Eiyer litakuwa sawa au tofauti. Soo many possible interpretations for a verse,AND WHEN YOU DARE INTERPRET IT THE WRONG WAY U DEAD :Cry::help:
Najua Allah ni nini!
Sio wewe tu walioshindwa kuielewa biblia hata wanaojiita wasomi nao wanatoka kapa kila uchao,huwa nasha ngaa kuwa wanasema hiki ni kitabu kilichoandikwa kwa makosa na watu wa kawaida sana,hivi msomi anashindwaje kuelewa maandishi ya asie msomi?
Nirudi kwenye swali lako:
Unaposoma biblia unahitaji uwe makini sana kama unataka uielewe
Hapo yesu alikuwa anazungumza na watu ambao hawajafika mbinguni na mara nyingi wamekuwa wakimbishia kuhusu yale aliyokuwa anawaambia hivyo hakukosea kuwaambia hakuna aliepanda mbinguni kwani kati yao hakuna aliyepanda kwenda huko isipokuwa Yesu mwenyewe
Hapo hakumaanisha kuwa tangu dunia iumbwe hakuna aliyeenda mbinguni[rejea kauli yake alipokuwa anawaambia kuwa hakuna aliyeisikia sauti ya Mungu wakati Musa alizungumza na Mungu]
Hapa ni kwamba ni kweli Mungu hamjaribu yoyote bali kila mmoja hujaribiwa na tamaa zake mwenyewe,lakini unatakiwa ujue kuwa kuna mambo Mungu anaweza kuyafanya kwa sababu maalum na mahali maalum
Mungu kumjaribu Ibrahimu kulikuwa kuna sababu maalum,pia kuna mambo Mungu aliyakataza na akaja kuyaruhusu baadhi na mengine aliyaruhusu nyakati maalum na kwa watu maalum tu[rejea Amri ya Mungu kukataza kujifanyia sanam na alipomruhusu Musa kutengeneza nyoka wa shaba]
Rejea jibu langu la swali lako la pili!
Kwenye haya maswali yako kuna utata
Naomba unithibitishie kuwa haya matukio yalitokea wakati mmoja na yalihusu mtu yuleyule
Majina ya Wayahudi yalikuwa yanafanana na kujirudiarudia hivyo unaweza kujichanganya ukidhani biblia imejichanganya[rejea Yuda iskariote na Yuda mwaadilifu wote hawa walikuwa wanafunzi wa Yesu,Yohana mbatizaji na Yohana mwanafunzi wa Yesu,Sauli mfalme na Sauli aliekuja kuitwa Paulo n.k] unapotoa maandiko kufuatia majina inahitajika utoe maelezo ya kutosha kuthibitisha kuwa yanazungumzia mtu mmoja lakini matukio yanakinzana!
bubbs biblia inaeleweka kama utataka kuielewa
Hapo kuna matukio mawili tofauti
Zaburi inazungumzia hukumu,kama ingekuwa leo tungesema ni hukumu ya kimahakama,hakuna anaechukia mtuhumiwa wake aliemtendea uovu akihukumiwa kwa haki
Mithali inazungumzia kitu kingine na nadhani unajua ni kwanini inaitwa mithali
Hapo inazungumzia baina ya mtu na mtu na sio mtuhumiwa na mahakama!
Rejea jibu langu la swali lako la pili!
Unapoona neno kujinyonga unaelewa nini?
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Sina hakika wewe ni ktk waparokia au atheist!! lkn nataka kukuliza kitu hapa!!
kwa nini hawa wakiristo wanapoonyeshwa uovu na ruhsa ya kufanya mauwaji ya kinyama kwenye biblia,
badala ya kutoa maelekezo wanageuza topic kabisa?? why?
and it happens to all of them!!
Sina hakika wewe ni ktk waparokia au atheist!! lkn nataka kukuliza kitu hapa!!
kwa nini hawa wakiristo wanapoonyeshwa uovu na ruhsa ya kufanya mauwaji ya kinyama kwenye biblia,
badala ya kutoa maelekezo wanageuza topic kabisa?? why?
and it happens to all of them!!
Me na wewe nani anaseek attention? Did I go around quoting random people?Where did I say! YOU ARE A MUSLIM??
I just wonder why you seek attention without a valid reasons! !
yohana 14Wapi biblia inasema kuwa YESU ALISEMA MIMI NI MUNGU!!?
mbona mnataka kuturudisha nyuma tena!!?
Hili somo tumeshalimaliza zamaaaani!
Mpaka wakolosai wakaanza matusi humu!!
Haya na wewe toa andiko!
WAPI YESU KASEMA MIMI NI MUNGU??
AU MIMI MNIABUDU!
nasubiri jibu!
Kama huna, basi siku nyingi acha uongo!
Whoa whoa whoa, sorry. I thought this post was by Mkwawa.Where did I say! YOU ARE A MUSLIM??
I just wonder why you seek attention without a valid reasons! !
nukuu 'kama wewe kweli ni mwana wa mungu ujiokoe mwenyewe na utuokoe''-yule jambazi mmoja aliyesulubiwa na yesu alisikika akisema hivyo.ukitafakari utaona alikuwa logical. even though connotation ya ujiokoe na utuokoe haikuwa na nia njema bali inaonyesha alilenga kukebehi tu. todays we've many people who blasphemy god using logic comments. just imagine. well., Am not sure what there consequence will be.Haha Eiyer. I read your text while smiling. You reminded me of when I was a Jehovah's Witness and believed we were "god's channel" to mankind. Those people really wish they were Jesus.
About Yesu na kupanda mbinguni, je, Yesu hakuwa akiongea na Wayahudi?
About mungu kujaribu, :bored: sasa mbona Umesema hicho hicho. Mungu hujaribu!!!! Sawa, hujaribu kwa sababu maalum. Hamna ubishi. Ndo hihivyo hujaribu watu! and that is not a fun experience!!! While peter said hajaribu watu!!!! Au nina kichwa kigumu??
About kufurahia mwovu akianguka. LOL. So let me get your logic. Mtu aliyekuuzia kiwanja hewa akija kupata accident akawa kipofu usifurahie, usubirie kufurahia wakati wa punishment official ya mungu? In other words, you're reconciling the two bible verses by saying they mean that one should postpone their joy when their enemy falls to until when the enemy gets an official fall/punishment from god?
Kuhusu kufa kwa Yuda, I think ungeisoma kwa English usingeniuliza tena kuwa kujinyonga ni nini. English translations clearly says that he "hanged" himself. Au utaniuliza tena kuhang manaake nini? I know the way some Christians reconcile the two verses. I want to hear your version Eiyer.
About David na sensa, that was the same incident. Soma context. And then after you can tell me how you reconcile them. And do you really think David angefanya the same thing na kutuma the same person, na kijutia the same tena?
About Asa, its the same person. Kasome sura mbili before na sura mbili after sura hizo za vitabu viwili nilivyokupa. Matukio yaleyale. After, I would like to hear the way you reconcile them.
Kuhusu sheria kuhusu sanamu. So kwa ufupi mungu huweka sheria na kuamua kuvunja for his own purposes. Mungu wa biblia hubadilikana na hali. He learns! He learns new ways to deal with his people. You know kama he could negotiate with the Israelites hadi kuvunja sheria zake mwenyewe, mbona mimi sipati hiyo chance? Is it cause I'm not a Jew?
Deuteronomy 7:6-FOR YOU ARE A HOLLY PEOPLE TO JEHOVAH YOUR GOD. ITS YOU JEHOVAH YOUR GOD HAS CHOSEN TO BECOME HIS PEOPLE, A SPECIAL PROPERTY, OUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND :disapointed: