Scientific proof big bang never happened

[papason]

"To whom will you compare me or count me equal? To whom will you liken me that we may be compared? (Isaiah 46:5, NIV)

To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like? (Isaiah 46:5, KJV)

For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD? (Psalms 89:6)

The verse from Genesis wasinspired by pagans who believed they were the "image" of their god.

Genesis was recomposed by Ezra, who made revisions to the Bible after the Babylon captivity.

The books were destroyed by the forces of King Nebuchadnezzar. Ezra returned to Jerusalem in 458 B.C.E. after re-writing the Torah from memory, several changes was made.

Gavana!

You Muslims do not believe man is created in the image of God's essence, but we Christians Do!
The Christian witness, that man is created in the ‘image and likeness of God,' is not the same as the Muslim witness.

 

[Kiranga]

Mkuu ili kuokoa muda baada ya kuprove yoote haya tunapata concept kwamba hakuna kitu Kama bing bang na theory yenyewe ina kasoro na contradiction kibao....

Hapa ndipo unaweza kuja na conclusion kuwa ulimwengu umeumbwa na Mungu....

Labda hujasoma ulichonukuu, ama umesoma na hujaelewa.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Gavana!

You Muslims do not believe man is created in the image of God’s essence, but we Christians Do!
The Christian witness, that man is created in the ‘image and likeness of God,’ is not the same as the Muslim witness.

Is this the reason the Christian believes that God is a whiteman on that picture?

That's all lies partner!
That white chap on the cross ain't God! He can't be God,
He will never be the one.!!

Thats all colonial techniques to rule the black folks Believe you me.

God is Unique, He does not look like me and you.
He is NOT A WHITE MAN pal.!!

And HE IS NOT THAT PERSON ON THE CROSS.!!

Take it or leave it.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Mimi sijui asee,nilichokua namaanisha katika genesis.
kuna uumbaji aina 2.
hasa wa mwanadamu.
mungu akawaumba kwa kutamka na ikawa,halafu kuna mungu akachukua udongo akafinyanga na kupulizia uhai.
2 version of the same story.

Pia kwenye Genesis hio hio eti Mungu aliumba mchana na Usiku kabla HAJAUMBA Jua!

Hapa lzm upate kizunguzungu.

 

[nemulo]

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Our universe, according to Einstein's theories, is around 13.8 billion years old and formed from an infinitely small point during the Big Bang (illustration pictured) While most people accept this model, scientists still can't explain what happened inside this tiny point - called a singularity – or what came before it


Our universe, according to Einstein's theories, is around 13.8 billion years old and formed from an infinitely small point during the Big Bang.

While most people accept this model, scientists still can't explain what happened inside this tiny point - called a singularity – or what came before it.

Now, two physicists have put forward a radical new model which suggests the Big Bang didn't take place - and that our universe has no beginning and no end.

'The math and the Big Bang theory itself break down because of the infinities,' Professor Saurya Das at University of Lethbridge, Canada told Dailymail.com.

'In other words, the theory predicts its own demise. It also does not explain where that initial state, came from.'

To help solve this problem, the scientists combined general relativity, which describes the forces around us, with quantum mechanics, which governs small objects, according to a report by Lisa Zyga in Phys.org.

They began with equations created by physicist David Bohm, who in the 1950s attempted to use quantum theory in place of classical equation to describe the shortest path between two points on a curved surface.

They then combined this with an equation by Professor Amal Kumar Raychaudhuri at Presidency University, in Kolkata, which described a fluid of small particles that pervades space.

This fluid is the quantum version of gravity, which has dubbed a graviton by Professor Das and co-author Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University.

They showed that unlike classical trajectories - which are paths of particles going into the future or past – the quantum particles can never meet or cross.

'As far as we can see, since different points in the universe never actually converged in the past, it did not have a beginning,' said Professor Das.

'It lasted forever. It will also not have an end…In other words, there is no singularity.'

But if there was no Big Bang, what is the history of our universe?

'The universe could have lasted forever,' speculates Professor Das.

'It could have gone through cycles of being small and big.

'Or it could have been created much earlier.'

The theory may also potentially explain the origin of dark matter and dark energy.

These elusive substances constitute respectively about 25 per cent and 70 per cent of our universe.

'We showed that a giant Bose-Einstein condensate of gravitons may have formed very early on, have lasted forever, and which accounts for both dark matter and dark energy,' said Professor Das.

In the late 1990s, astronomers found that the expansion of the universe is accelerating due the presence of a dark energy.

Their model has the potential to explain it since the fluid creates constant outward force that expands space.

And when the team set the mass of the graviton, they could make the density of their fluid the same as the universe's observed density of dark matter.

'It is satisfying to note that such straightforward corrections can potentially resolve so many issues at once.' Professor Das told Phys.org.

Source:dailymail

In the name of Science any one can say anything confusing enough and people can hail you as well. My Science tells me that a human being was once a pig.

If so,this could apply only to the whites....

 

[Bill Cosby]

''God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them...'' (Genesis1:27)

Don't read Bible and take on board everything it says!
Did you know that on the same chapter (Genesis 1) christian wrote that God Created Day and Night long before he Created THE SUN!!
Now You do the math and tell me,
Is that possible?

 

[Gavana]

Gavana!

You Muslims do not believe man is created in the image of God’s essence, but we Christians Do!
The Christian witness, that man is created in the ‘image and likeness of God,’ is not the same as the Muslim witness.

Let us look at the verses in question:

Genesis 1:26-27

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.


There are three key statements in the verses above:


1- "Our Likeness"


2- "Our Image"


3- "Us" (see the 3rd section below)


Very fair. Let us now examine them in more details.



1- The "our likeness" and "our image" meaning:

1- "....after OUR likeness...."

Who is this human being that is like GOD?

Adam, the first creation of Mankind and the one in Genesis 1:26-27 certainly isn't.

The likeness of GOD Almighty is not the physical appearance, but rather having the knowledge of Good and evil.

This is clearly stated in the Bible:


"For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 3:5)"


"and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. (From the NIV Bible, Ephesians 4:24)"


"Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 7:1)"



"On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them. (From the NIV Bible, Zechariah 12:8)"


By the way, on the literal sense, no one is like GOD Almighty:

"Tomorrow," Pharaoh said. Moses replied, "It will be as you say, so that you may know there is no one like the LORD our God. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 8:10)"


"There is no one holy [ Or no Holy One ] like the LORD; there is no one besides you; there is no Rock like our God. (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 2:2)"


"For who in the skies above can compare with the LORD? Who is like the LORD among the heavenly beings? (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 89:6)"


"Who is like the LORD our God, the One who sits enthroned on high, (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 113:5)"


2- "....in OUR image...."


First of all, the word image also means example or similitude.

In Arabic, the two words are the same; "timthal" (image); "mathalona" (our image); which are all derived from the root word "mathal" (example), and I am sure that it is the same condition in Hebrew and Aramaic since all three languages are all sister languages.

Also in Arabic similitude means "shabah". "Mutashabbihan" means to have a similitude of.

As we saw above in "OUR likeness", the speech is all metaphoric!​

Also, both "OUR image" and "OUR likeness" mean the same thing.
​

 

[Bavaria]

Hakuna mmoja atakayemshawishi mwenzake kuamini. Kuna wale wenye sababu za Mungu kaumba dunia, na wengine wapo kwenye sayansi kamili. So ni ngumu kumeet at the same conclusion.

 

[Lusungo]

Baadae atakuja na ule wimbo wake wa hivi "kwanini Mungu mwenye uwezo wote huu na upendo aliumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya yanawezekana"

Aiseeh hivi tangu aanze kuuliza hajapata jibu au anafanya jeuri tu?

 

[Mkuu wa chuo]

Aiseeh hivi tangu aanze kuuliza hajapata jibu au anafanya jeuri tu?

Hiyo amekwisha i tune, anaweza akajadili... au akikutana na mchangiaji mwingine anauimba wimbo huo... ukienda jamii intelligence utaiona hiyo...

 

[MZIMU]

Haa...haa you made my day....a pig tena?!

What confuses me with the scientists...when exactly did the evolution stopped? Am really waiting for apes kingdom to turn into humans...

Dahh! Dina Umenielewa sana. Hakika hiyo ndio maana yangu! thanks.

 

[ISLETS]

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Our universe, according to Einstein's theories, is around 13.8 billion years old and formed from an infinitely small point during the Big Bang (illustration pictured) While most people accept this model, scientists still can't explain what happened inside this tiny point - called a singularity – or what came before it


Our universe, according to Einstein's theories, is around 13.8 billion years old and formed from an infinitely small point during the Big Bang.

While most people accept this model, scientists still can't explain what happened inside this tiny point - called a singularity – or what came before it.

Now, two physicists have put forward a radical new model which suggests the Big Bang didn't take place - and that our universe has no beginning and no end.

'The math and the Big Bang theory itself break down because of the infinities,' Professor Saurya Das at University of Lethbridge, Canada told Dailymail.com.

'In other words, the theory predicts its own demise. It also does not explain where that initial state, came from.'

To help solve this problem, the scientists combined general relativity, which describes the forces around us, with quantum mechanics, which governs small objects, according to a report by Lisa Zyga in Phys.org.

They began with equations created by physicist David Bohm, who in the 1950s attempted to use quantum theory in place of classical equation to describe the shortest path between two points on a curved surface.

They then combined this with an equation by Professor Amal Kumar Raychaudhuri at Presidency University, in Kolkata, which described a fluid of small particles that pervades space.

This fluid is the quantum version of gravity, which has dubbed a graviton by Professor Das and co-author Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University.

They showed that unlike classical trajectories - which are paths of particles going into the future or past – the quantum particles can never meet or cross.

'As far as we can see, since different points in the universe never actually converged in the past, it did not have a beginning,' said Professor Das.

'It lasted forever. It will also not have an end…In other words, there is no singularity.'

But if there was no Big Bang, what is the history of our universe?

'The universe could have lasted forever,' speculates Professor Das.

'It could have gone through cycles of being small and big.

'Or it could have been created much earlier.'

The theory may also potentially explain the origin of dark matter and dark energy.

These elusive substances constitute respectively about 25 per cent and 70 per cent of our universe.

'We showed that a giant Bose-Einstein condensate of gravitons may have formed very early on, have lasted forever, and which accounts for both dark matter and dark energy,' said Professor Das.

In the late 1990s, astronomers found that the expansion of the universe is accelerating due the presence of a dark energy.

Their model has the potential to explain it since the fluid creates constant outward force that expands space.

And when the team set the mass of the graviton, they could make the density of their fluid the same as the universe's observed density of dark matter.

'It is satisfying to note that such straightforward corrections can potentially resolve so many issues at once.' Professor Das told Phys.org.

Source:dailymail

wani ukishaona wanasayansi wanapingana hapo basi jibu ni kwamba ulimwengu uliumbwa na Mungu hakuna cha bigbang wala nini

 

[Guest from Wazua]

Don't read Bible and take on board everything it says!
Did you know that on the same chapter (Genesis 1) christian wrote that God Created Day and Night long before he Created THE SUN!!
Now You do the math and tell me,
Is that possible?

Its very possible, do you know that its possible to have light without sun?

 

[CattleRustler]

Hii kitu imenitotezea brain cells toka high school na sijailewa mpaka leo. wacha ife tu.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Its very possible, do you know that its possible to have light without sun?

Which light are you talking about here!
The Bible says "day and night exist before the SUN!
Now show me if that's possible.

Tricky questions leave to the ladies my friend.

 

[LightAngel]

Is this the reason the Christian believes that God is a whiteman on that picture?

That's all lies partner!
That white chap on the cross ain't God! He can't be God,
He will never be the one.!!

Thats all colonial techniques to rule the black folks Believe you me.

God is Unique, He does not look like me and you.
He is NOT A WHITE MAN pal.!!

And HE IS NOT THAT PERSON ON THE CROSS.!!

Take it or leave it.

too little to understand this my friend. if God intend to imply the image of your face, how many faces God have, you need to grow into it to come along with, otherwise its a curse to you!

 

[Bill Cosby]

too little to understand this my friend. if God intend to imply the image of your face, how many faces God have, you need to grow into it to come along with, otherwise its a curse to you!

This is how you lied to each others inside those Churches!
Someone is Sick and all you do is Singing a song to her! Expecting her to be Cured!

READ What your BIBLE is Talking about Sickness. Then you might understand even a little bit of what I'm trying to say.

Bible Says When you are sick, rely on faith-based medicine. Prayer and faith alone will cure you.

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up. --James 5:14-15

For as it says in the Psalms,

The Lord ... healeth all thy diseases. ---Psalm 103:2-3

And as Jesus said to the woman who touched his garment,

Thy faith hath made thee whole. ---Matthew 9:22,-Mark 5:34,-Luke 8:48

Or just touch your religious leader's handkerchief or something.

So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them. ---Acts 19:12

But whatever you do, don't go to a doctor. God is insulted if you trust science more than faith.

And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians. --2 Chronicles 16:12



Its amazed me that Until this day people like you are still exist!!

I though only Vikings behaved like this.
I guess I was Wrong.

Good luck to you.

 

[Free ideas]

I have never believed the Big Bang theory as it’s contradictitself, haitaji kuwa kipanga as to understand that there was a creator far moreintelligent than akili na mawazo yote ya mwanadamu….. Yes, God (Jah/Yahweh) created the universe and allof us in His image! Achana na hizo blablaaaaa za Big Bang theory, kwanza ni mawazo ya kipagani tuu....

Who told you that god created the Universe?

 

[Deception]

Jamii forum ina wachangiaji ambao wanaonekana kuwa na sharp brain hasa kwenye mijadala kama hii.Ila kinachoniumiza ni watu kushindwa kuvumiliana na kutupiana maneno machafu ili kutetea dhana zao ambazo pia ni za kufikirika zaidi,hawawezi kuzithibitisha.
Lakini pia hizi sharp brain sijaona zikijiuliza maswali ya msingi kwenye kile wanachoamini,mfano;kuna watu wanaamini kwamba mungu ndio ameumba ulimwengu,hawa ni watu wa dini na asilimia kubwa ni waislamu na wakristo.Watu wa dini hizi inabidi wafahamu kwamba miungu hawa(ambao ni wa kufikirika) wako wengi,sasa yupi kati ya hawa ndiye aliyefanya uumbaji?

Nathibitisha kwamba miungu wako wengi:
Katika amri za mungu za waislamu na wakristo kuna amri inasema,''Mimi/ndimi bwana mungu wako,usiabudu miungu wengine''.Hapa sihitaji mtu kufafanua kwa kuwa inajieleza yenyewe kwamba hata mungu wa waislamu na mungu wa wakristo anajua kwamba kuna miungu wengine.

Nathibitisha kwamba mungu wa waislamu ni tofauti na mungu wa wakristo:
Wakristo wanasema na wanajua kwamba mungu wao amegawanyika ktk nafsi tatu,baba,mwana(yesu) na roho mtakatifu.Waislamu wanasema na wanajua kwamba mungu wao hajagawanyika(ni mmoja tu) na kwao yesu sio mungu.Ni asilimia 100 kwamba dini zote mbili zinakubaliana na maelezo haya.

Pia kuna miungu wengine wengi wengi si lazima niwataje kwa majina.Sasa ni yupi kati ya hawa ndiye alifanya uumbaji.Nawataka watu wa dini hizi mbili wanifahamishe.

Mtazamo wangu:
What is science?.....''Science is the ability to predict the highest most probable''.Science is correct in most cases but not all.
Religion is not correct in most cases but not all.
I rely on science,not religion.We are on this level of development today because of science,not religion.Remmember,religion and god(s) are two different things.When Karl Marx said ''Religion is the Opium of the people'',he had the meaning that people don't want to retrieve.Religion puts constraints to people from thinking further.

I don't know who god is,but I know who god isn't.

 

[smigo4u]

In the name of Science any one can say anything confusing enough and people can hail you as well. My Science tells me that a human being was once a pig.

it is true accoding 2 ur thoughts lkn it will take 10000 yrs in order 2 convice the mass of people