Shamba la bibi: Italian contractor leaves with Kenya's Sh15 billion deposit

[Kunta kinte1776]

Joto la jiwe CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM is much welcome.i loath and detest corruption,i will never stand up for corruption,infact i don't take or give bribes,i know better.corruption is the single most vice that has chocked africa out of life rendering a many people to hopelessness,corruption continues to rear its ugly head in every aspect of african life,the scorge has single handedly eroded our dignity on the global arena,africans should travel and observe how we looked down upon by other races simply because we can't govern ourselves.by there outside africa we are viewed as one people plagued by poverty,disease,hunger,endless wars,terrorism,immigration.....name them.However we must discern constructive criticism from mere defamations and witch hunt,let us collectively fight the vice the proper way...WAKE UP PEOPLE

 

[joto la jiwe]

Joto la jiwe we live in era of wide spread fake news,i will not sit around and entertain fake news,i will call it for what it is

Umeamini kwamba hiyo kampuni ya Italia ililipwa na GoK na hiyo ni pesa ya wakenya?, Uhuru Kenyatta ameamua kufuatilia na kuadhibu kila atakayebainika amehusika.

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[Kunta kinte1776]

Joto la jiwe the article attached in this thread is from the standard media group,the standard media group is full of lazy journalist who oftenly churn out tonne of garbage in the form of news,traditionally their reports are poorly investigated which results to poorly executed reports like this one,don't rely on them for credible news,they are just rubbish. Look the contract to construct the three dams was structured in the form of EPC (engineer,procure & construct),in this arrangement the contractor is awarded a tender whereby he will engineer a detailed design of the project,PROCURE for funds,mobilise equipment and execute the project free from the client interfearance ,after which he will deliver complete funtioning asset to the client,the client receives the asset and is given a deformity liability grace period to access the project,if the client is fully satisfied he remits/reimburse the contractor as per the terms of the agreement.now in the case of this dams the italian contractor(CMC Di ravenna) sourced fund from intesa san paolo(an italian bank) and BNP pariba fortis a chinese owned beigium based bank,the kenyan treasury didn't provide any funds,however the bone of contention is some government officials were culpable of receiving kickbacks to award the contract to CMC Di ravenna,the collusion between the contractor and government officials is what uhuru was referring to,anybody found guilty will be punished,investigations are ongoing.the government officials took advantage of mandatory that the contractor had to be italian since italian government backed bank was providing bulk of the loan.

 

[Kafrican]

You are comparing apples with bananas..
Kenya has entered into contract and paid money to a bankrupt company.You cannot seize any of their assets as they have none

If the said company applied for the contract knowing that they were in a bad situation but chose not to disclose the same therefore hinting there was malicious intent, GoK could file a motion to lift stay and have GoK recover its money first before the accounts are closed.

 

[pingli-nywee]

This is a great collage potrait from the Mexican artist Frida Kahlo.

What did you study in collage?

My question, what has the visual art form, collage, got to do with your headless topic? [emoji15]

 

[Kunta kinte1776]

Thats a sexy piece of art up there😛

 

[pingli-nywee]

Thats a sexy piece of art up there😛

Haha! 😀 Its a great piece of artwork. I was astonished to read that the fake economist(economist bonoko) understands art too. 😎

 

[Kunta kinte1776]

Pingli-nywee coundn't agree more,fake sana,bonoko de😀

 

[pingli-nywee]

Pingli-nywee coundn't agree more,fake sana,bonoko de😀

Economics without the foundation of law, in this case international law, must be economic knowledge acquired through a natural process like osmosis. Reminds me when I had to struggle to educate a few big headed morons here about observation of due dilligence being a basic requirement in any contract of substance as clearly stipulated in Law of Contracts.

 

[Kunta kinte1776]

Pingli-nywee true that,contract is the basic element of two consenting parties enforcable by mutual assent with a valid offer and acceptance,adequate consideration and acceptance,consent and legality

 

[JKasuku255]

This is the kind of attitude that is killing kenya..People take out loans on behalf of taxpayers, misuse it then say "who cares".
At the end of the of the day taxpayers pay

SHOGA ya Ndii... what do you know about kenya?? apart from spreading your A** for Ndii? hehehehehehe fake news is the only thing you know

 

[joto la jiwe]

Joto la jiwe the article attached in this thread is from the standard media group,the standard media group is full of lazy journalist who oftenly churn out tonne of garbage in the form of news,traditionally their reports are poorly investigated which results to poorly executed reports like this one,don't rely on them for credible news,they are just rubbish. Look the contract to construct the three dams was structured in the form of EPC (engineer,procure & construct),in this arrangement the contractor is awarded a tender whereby he will engineer a detailed design of the project,PROCURE for funds,mobilise equipment and execute the project free from the client interfearance ,after which he will deliver complete funtioning asset to the client,the client receives the asset and is given a deformity liability grace period to access the project,if the client is fully satisfied he remits/reimburse the contractor as per the terms of the agreement.now in the case of this dams the italian contractor(CMC Di ravenna) sourced fund from intesa san paolo(an italian bank) and BNP pariba fortis a chinese owned beigium based bank,the kenyan treasury didn't provide any funds,however the bone of contention is some government officials were culpable of receiving kickbacks to award the contract to CMC Di ravenna,the collusion between the contractor and government officials is what uhuru was referring to,anybody found guilty will be punished,investigations are ongoing.the government officials took advantage of mandatory that the contractor had to be italian since italian government backed bank was providing bulk of the loan.

Msikilize Msalia Mudavad anathibitisha kwamba GoK imeshalipa hizo pesa, sikiliza hii taarifa ya Citizen TV pia inathibitisha hivyo, je wote hao pia sio wakweli ila wewe pekee ndio mkweli?

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[JKasuku255]

Msikilize Msalia Mudavad anathibitisha kwamba GoK imeshalipa hizo pesa, sikiliza hii taarifa ya Citizen TV pia inathibitisha hivyo, je wote hao pia sio wakweli ila wewe pekee ndio mkweli?

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MDVD anajua nini?? wacha kufikiria kama kifaranga... kufuata fuata huyo bibi wa ndii kila mahali... ushoga wake isha kuingia

 

[joto la jiwe]

MDVD anajua nini?? wacha kufikiria kama kifaranga... kufuata fuata huyo bibi wa ndii kila mahali... ushoga wake isha kuingia

Kwahiyo wewe ndio unajua kila kitu, wengine wote hawajui kitu, Standard media unasema hawajui kitu, Mudavad unasema hajui kitu, Citizen TV nao pia hawajui kitu, huo ugonjwa ulionao sio wewe peke yako, hilo ni tatizo linalowasumbua wakenya wengi, kila mkenya anajifanya anajua kila kitu na wengine wote hawajui kitu, hii ndio sababu kubwa ukabila na rushwa havitokwisha Kenya.

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[JKasuku255]

Kwahiyo wewe ndio unajua kila kitu, wengine wote hawajui kitu, Standard media unasema hawajui kitu, Mudavad unasema hajui kitu, Citizen TV nao pia hawajui kitu, huo ugonjwa ulionao sio wewe peke yako, hilo ni tatizo linalowasumbua wakenya wengi, kila mkenya anajifanya anajua kila kitu na wengine wote hawajui kitu, hii ndio sababu kubwa ukabila na rushwa havitokwisha Kenya.

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ushoga inawamaliza.... punguza entrance huko nyuma... Ndii anawaumiza wewe na bib yake yule mkikuyu

 

[joto la jiwe]

ushoga inawamaliza.... punguza entrance huko nyuma... Ndii anawaumiza wewe na bib yake yule mkikuyu

Jibu swali, wewe ndio unajua kila kitu ila wengine wote hawajui lolote sio?, Mtu kama Mudavad aliyewahi kuwa naibu prime minister unamdharahu na kumuona hajui lolote zaidi yako, upo sawa kweli?.

Kwahiyo tusiamini media yoyote wala mtu mwengine yeyote isipokua wewe pekee?. Kwa akili na fikra kama zako, mtaweza kupambana na ukabila?

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[JKasuku255]

Jibu swali, wewe ndio unajua kila kitu ila wengine wote hawajui lolote sio?, Mtu kama Mudavad aliyewahi kuwa naibu prime minister unamdharahu na kumuona hajui lolote zaidi yako, upo sawa kweli?.

Kwahiyo tusiamini media yoyote wala mtu mwengine yeyote isipokua wewe pekee?. Kwa akili na fikra kama zako, mtaweza kupambana na ukabila?

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jambo za wakenya najua mingi kuliko tushoga tuwili huko bongo

 

[joto la jiwe]

jambo za wakenya najua mingi kuliko tushoga tuwili huko bongo

Mudavad pia ni shoga hajui kitu?, Standard media na Citizen TV pia ni mashoga hawajui kitu, ila wewe ndio unajua kila kitu kuliko hata Mungu?

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[JKasuku255]

Mudavad pia ni shoga hajui kitu?, Standard media na Citizen TV pia ni mashoga hawajui kitu, ila wewe ndio unajua kila kitu kuliko hata Mungu?

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MDVD ni shoga hajui kitu that is a fact... wewe ni shoga haujui kitu... another fact... citizen is a news station they just vomit what they are told...

 

[eliakeem]

jambo za wakenya najua mingi kuliko tushoga tuwili huko bongo

kwa vile huna hoja za kutoa ili kuipinga hoja ya joto la jiwe umeamua kujitoa ufahamu na kuwa hayawani.