Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Al assad · May 4, 2023

TUJITEGEMEE said:
Basi kama hajahusika basi hastaili Tena kuwa CIC wa Ukraine kwa sababu hana Tena maamuzi ya namna nchi yake ikabili SMO. Apishe ama apishishwe kwa uzembe wake huu!!!

Hata hivyo Alisha Saini decree ya kutofanya mazungumzo na Moscow mpaka Putin aondoke, kwa hiyo tukio la Leo yawezekana alitaka amuondoe Putin ili afanye mazungumzo na Moscow!!! Yaani alijiwekea mitego mwenyewe kujimaliza! Analo hili Zelensiky!

Mkuu yaani kwa kuwa amekana basi hatakiwi kuwa CIC!?(hii haipo sawa)
kuongea kuwa anataka long range weapons haimaanishi kila tukia anahusika kuna mengi(false flag,wapinzani wake wa ndani wasiotaka vita).
so sikutarajia uje na hoja nyepesi bila evidences!

Bukyanagandi · May 4, 2023

Al assad said:
Mkuu wasiwasi wangu ni kuwa inawezekana kila habari usiyoipenda ukaiita propaganda(i means si kila habari unayoita propaganda ni kweli propaganda)

Sio kweli mkuu, mimi ninacho tumia hapa ni real logic (boolean) na sio fuzzy logic.

Richard · May 4, 2023

Chibolo said:
Hizo drony zilitoka kumuua pootin zitakuwa za NATO/USA

Hapana ni drones za Ukraine.

Ukraine wamekuwa wakidevelop UAVs za range mbalimbali na wamekuwa wakiitaka sana Marekani waridhie majaribio yanoingia ndani ya Moscow.

Wakifanyacho ni kuokota zile UAVs ambazo wamefankiwa kuzidungua za Russia au Iran na kwingine na mara moja huingia maabara kuzifanyia kazi na kuzitengeneza na kuziboresha. Sasa wakimaliza kazi hutafuta pa kuzijaribia.

Lakini hapa pana nadharia mbili:

Kwanza, kuna kipindi nyuma gazeti ya New York Times liliandika kwamba Ukraine walikuwa wakiomba sana kufanya majaribio hayo.

Hivyo tukio la juzi kule Crimea kwenye matanki ya mafuta na hili la Kremlin yanaweza kabisa kuwa yamepata baraka za Marekani au pia hayajapata baraka hizo ndo maana Marekani nao wamechanganyikiwa kwani hawakutegemea kama Ukraine yaweza kufanya hivi.

Pia nadharia ingine ni kwamba huenda watu ndani ya Russia ambao hawajaridhika na hatua ambazo Russia imefikia katika vita hii na kuona kwamba Putin anasita sana kufanya maamuzi magumu, wanataka kumlazimisha Putin kuchukua hatua kali ambazo ni kufanya mashambulizi makali khasa kuelekea Jumatatu ambayo ni siku muhimu kwa Russia.

Katika historia tarehe 9 May 1945 Russia ilitangaza ushindi dhidi ya Ujerumani ambapo siku moja kabla yaani tarehe 8 May 1945 majeshi ya kinazi ya Ujerumani yalitangaza kujisalimisha na wakatiliana saini na Russia kwamba wamejisalimisha.

Tarehe 9 May 1945 ndo siku yale mataifa madogo 16 yaliungana na ikazaliwa USSR.

DeepPond · May 4, 2023

abdulqadirj said:
Mbuzi kafia kwa muuza supu[emoji28][emoji28][emoji28]

It is not me, I swear! We don't have weapons to defend our villages!! What drones attack? Me? Nooo.

Ni maneno ya raisi wa Ukraine akipinga kuhusika na shambulio la drone dhidi ya Kremlin. [emoji3]

Sahv hawana drone, Wakati juz hao hao wameishambulia crimea na drone wakachekelea[emoji38]

DeepPond · May 4, 2023

Exile said:
Kusema drone kutoka ukraine hadi moscow sio rahisi itakua imetoka ndani ya urussi

Kwa drone attak za Ukraine ndani ya Moscow umeanza kuziskia leo mkuu?

DeepPond · May 4, 2023

Morogoro kaskazini said:
Naona zelensky kashakimbilia finland kudadeki kazi anayo

Arudi aongoze mapambano,
nchi kamwachia Nani?
Huyu SI ndo alkua anazurula bakmut juzi juzi apa[emoji1787]

DeepPond · May 4, 2023

TUJITEGEMEE said:
Basi kama hajahusika basi hastaili Tena kuwa CIC wa Ukraine kwa sababu hana Tena maamuzi ya namna nchi yake ikabili SMO. Apishe ama apishishwe kwa uzembe wake huu!!!

Hata hivyo Alisha Saini decree ya kutofanya mazungumzo na Moscow mpaka Putin aondoke, kwa hiyo tukio la Leo yawezekana alitaka amuondoe Putin ili afanye mazungumzo na Moscow!!! Yaani alijiwekea mitego mwenyewe kujimaliza! Analo hili Zelensiky!

Zelensky ana washauri wa hovyo sana

TUJITEGEMEE · May 4, 2023

Al assad said:
so sikutarajia uje na hoja nyepesi bila evidences!

Umesoma Aya ya pili ya bandiko langu ulilonukuu?

Mahesabu · May 4, 2023

Bugucha · May 4, 2023

Challenger tuliotishiwa Nazo kumbe Vimeo🤣🤣🤣

Ukraine's Leopard, Challenger Tanks 'Punctured' By Rasputista As Kyiv's Counteroffensive Gets Stuck In The Mud

Ukraine’s Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov recently announced that preparations for a counteroffensive were “coming to an end”. However, as the anticipation for a mammoth Ukrainian military operation grows, there are concerns that Ukraine’s soggy black mud won’t allow it just yet.

eurasiantimes.com

Bugucha · May 4, 2023

abdulqadirj said:
Mbuzi kafia kwa muuza supu[emoji28][emoji28][emoji28]

It is not me, I swear! We don't have weapons to defend our villages!! What drones attack? Me? Nooo.

Ni maneno ya raisi wa Ukraine akipinga kuhusika na shambulio la drone dhidi ya Kremlin. [emoji3]

🤣🤣🤣🇸🇮🙌

Bugucha · May 4, 2023

Tsh said:
Kama hausiki ni sahihi kusema ahusiki. Kusema ahusiki hakuzii dhamira ya adui yake bali ni kuweka wazi kuwa ahusiki.

Labda hufuatilii huu Uzi,naomba nikukumbushe kidogo.
Wakati Wagner PMC walipoonekana kuutwa mji wa Bakhmut,Zelensky alitoa Amri wanajeshi wa Ukraine wasirudi nyuma(Retreat),hata baada ya Jenerali kumuomba afanye hivyo. Zelensky alisema wazi,ikiwa Bakhmut itaanguka,Urusi itachukua maeneo mengine ya nchi bila kipingamizi, pia west huenda ikafa morali ya kulipa silaha Kyiv,sasa mwelekeo ni kwamba,Ukraine inamiliki 4% ya Bakhmut,na counter offensive inaonekana kudoda, huu hapa ushahidi.👇

Ukraine's Leopard, Challenger Tanks 'Punctured' By Rasputista As Kyiv's Counteroffensive Gets Stuck In The Mud

Ukraine’s Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov recently announced that preparations for a counteroffensive were “coming to an end”. However, as the anticipation for a mammoth Ukrainian military operation grows, there are concerns that Ukraine’s soggy black mud won’t allow it just yet.

eurasiantimes.com

Zelensky ameipiga Kremlin Kwa "desparetion". Yaani last kick of dying horse.

Bugucha · May 4, 2023

Exile said:
Kusema drone kutoka ukraine hadi moscow sio rahisi itakua imetoka ndani ya urussi

Why Zelensky akimbie kama sio yy?

Bugucha · May 4, 2023

Morogoro kaskazini said:
Na leo zele kala kona huko finland

Watoto wa uswahilini tunasema "anadanga"🤣🤣

Bugucha · May 4, 2023

Chibolo said:
Hizo drony zilitoka kumuua pootin zitakuwa za NATO/USA

Hasa baada ya lile shambulio Kule lviv kwenye bunker,limewaumiza sana NATO.

Bugucha · May 4, 2023

Al assad said:
Si sahihi(japo walipata baraka za UN) lakini pia si sahihi Russia kuivamia Ukraine(kwa mtazamo wako)

Acha uongo,leta ushahidi kwamba walipata ruhusa kutoka UN.

jameshyela · May 4, 2023

Morogoro kaskazini said:
Na leo zele kala kona huko finland

Kaenda uholanzi ngoja tusubiri kikao kwanza.

jameshyela · May 4, 2023

Ukraine labda ifanye uchaguzi tena.

Bugucha · May 4, 2023

Ati "makes surprise visit" yaani sasa hivi andonje amekuwa wa kuvizia kwenye ziara kama mwizi? 🤣🤣🤣 SI alisema ana bastola,au? Hii dunia inaenda kasi sana.

Ukraine’s Zelenskyy makes surprise visit to Netherlands: Media

Zelenskyy is expected to visit the International Criminal Court, which has issued an arrests warrant for Vladimir Putin.

www.aljazeera.com

jameshyela · May 4, 2023

Bugucha said:
Ati "makes surprise visit" yaani sasa hivi andonje amekuwa wa kuvizia kwenye ziara kama mwizi? [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] SI alisema ana bastola,au? Hii dunia inaenda kasi sana.

Ukraine’s Zelenskyy makes surprise visit to Netherlands: Media

Zelenskyy is expected to visit the International Criminal Court, which has issued an arrests warrant for Vladimir Putin.

www.aljazeera.com

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