Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

zithromax said:
Eu si wana block yao .. na pesa yao ilikuwaje wakawa wategemezi kiais hicho kwa usa mpaka wanaendeshwa hivyo
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Hawana hela yote wamewalipa wenye viwanda vya silaha.

Ndo maana waziri mkuu wa Estonia asema watatumia mali za Russia (assets) zilizopo katika mabenki ya Ulaya kugharamia hali yoyote ile Ukraine.

Russia tayari walitoa onyo hakuna kugusa mali zake.
 
Jasmoni Tegga said:
Why do I get the impression that these guys are simply politicking having already decided everything they actually want?
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I don't think so, there is a clear sense of reality that rules-based order is not sustainable.

If they (The West) are politicking, it would be for their domestic audience to make them look tough.
 
Ukrainian forces have liberated Pishchane in Donetsk Oblast following successful counterattacks in the Pokrovsk sector, Hortytsia Group spokesperson Viktor Tregubov announced on Feb. 16.
 
The United Kingdom is “ready and willing” to deploy its troops to Ukraine if necessary as part of security guarantees.-keir stamer
 
I am prepared to send British troops to Ukraine to enforce any peace agreement," - Prime Minister Keir Starmer writes in an op-ed for The Telegraph.
 
Russian monitoring channels report that Ukrainian drones are attacking the Afipsky Oil Refinery and the Ilsky Oil Refinery in Krasnodar Krai. But refineries were subject to attacks previously.
 
⚡German Economy Minister Robert Habeck:

Trump administration challenge the very foundations of Western values.

They launched a frontal attack on shared western values.

Under no circumstances should we grovel before the Americans.
 

Russian troops intensify attacks on Ukrainian forces in east, military says​


KYIV, Feb 16 (Reuters) - Russian troops have sharply stepped up their attacks in eastern Ukraine, Kyiv's military said on Sunday, as a NATO official predicted Moscow would increase the pace and intensity of its assaults with talks to end the war approaching.

February 17, 20252:23 AM GMT+3

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Kaangalie tena ground, Russia ameshachukua tena, hii ni ya last week, uko outdated
 
goswe said:
⚡REPORTER: "The European Union is talking about banning food imports from the U.S."

TRUMP: "I don't mind, let them do it...We're having reciprocal tariffs. Whatever they charge, we charge. It's very simple."
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Na yeye asipowelekea LNG ambayo bado ni Expensive watakufa,
Wanataka kupima maji ili waone kama Trump atafanya kweli au lah
 
17 Feb, 11:11
Ukrainian army has no future in Kurakhovo anymore — DPR head
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MOSCOW, February 17. /TASS/. The ongoing fighting near Ulakly west of the town of Kurakhovo in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) accelerates the speed of Russian advances there, regional head Denis Pushilin told the Rossiya-24 TV channel.

"The story of the so-called Kurakhovo pocket [of resistance], which formed as a result of our units’ advances, is coming to a logical conclusion. And now we can see that hostilities have started in the area of the settlement of Ulakly. Well, the enemy has no options left there. We can see steady advances of [Russian] units," he said.

The regional head added that Russian forces hold the initiative nearly along the entire frontline. In particular, they have expanded their area of control in the Velikaya Novosyolka direction.

On January 6, the Russian Defense Ministry reported the full liberation of Kurakhovo. According to Pushilin, the fortified area in Kurakhovo is comparable to Avdeyevka and Ugledar in terms of strategic importance.
 
Utoto Raha sana unaongea chochote na unasamehewa
 
⚡U.S. to Claim 50% of Ukraine’s Resource Revenues for Reconstruction Aid

A leaked draft agreement shows the U.S. securing 50% of Ukraine’s mineral, oil, gas, and infrastructure revenues in exchange for post-war financial support.

The deal, centered around a “Reconstruction Investment Fund,” would give the U.S. control over Ukraine’s resource licensing and long-term economic influence.

Key Terms of the Agreement

— The U.S. government (USG) commits to long-term financial investment in Ukraine’s stability and reconstruction.

— Ukraine (GOU) must allocate 50% of all revenues from resource extraction licenses to the U.S., effectively granting Washington a financial stake in Ukraine’s economy.

— The Reconstruction Investment Fund will have exclusive authority over how Ukraine issues and manages resource licenses.

— The U.S. will have a “right of first refusal” to purchase any exportable minerals before Ukraine can sell them elsewhere.

— Ukraine must waive sovereign immunity, meaning the U.S. can legally seize Ukrainian assets if Ukraine fails to meet its financial obligations.

— The agreement classifies Ukraine’s resource deals as commercial transactions, making them subject to U.S. and international arbitration.

— The U.S. gains full audit rights over Ukraine’s financial books related to the Reconstruction Fund.

— Ukraine must provide monthly financial reports to the U.S. and appoint an independent auditor, paid by Ukraine.

— The agreement does not specify an expiration date, meaning U.S. financial interests in Ukraine’s resources could remain indefinitely.

Ukraine Refuses

President Zelensky refused to sign a draft mineral resource agreement with the United States, stating that it does not adequately protect Ukraine's interests.

“The agreement is not ready to protect us, our interests.”

A former senior Ukrainian official called the U.S. offer "a colonial agreement"

The U.S. seeks 50% of Ukraine's rare minerals and has signaled it is open to deploying American troops to guard them if there is a deal with Russia to end the war
 
U.S politics zimekaa kiunafiki.
Sera ya U.S ni mimi kwanza ila kwa sura tofauti
Democratic wanafanya kwa njia ya vita, kuiba rasilimali na kuangusha wale wasiotii matakwa yao,
Republican wao wanatumia economic tools, ila main objective ni ileile katika different approach.
Kwenye hii ishu ya Ukraine kwa kile tunachokiano na kusikia kwa nje (tukiacha yale ya behind the curtain) U.S kama alikuwa na kete 3;

  1. Kuipunguza nguvu/kuidondosha Urusi bila kuingia au kutuma askari direct, ambayo hii kwa kiasi flani kama plan imeenda out of control au compiled intelligence report kuna sehem wali overlook.
  2. Kushusha uchumi wa ulaya ambao ulikuwa unaenda juu na wa U.S walikuwa wanakabiliwa na inflation, wamefanikiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa hasa wa Germany, maana viwanda vingi vikubwa vimekufa, kufungwa au kuuzwa. Pia na Ufaransa hasa kupoteza rasimali kuanzia kule west Africa. Na ulaya itaendelea kuwa tegemezi
  3. Rasilimali za Ukraine hasa madini na ardhi fresh ya kilima. Katika orodha ya mafini 52 yaliyo orodheshwa katika national security, 30 na yanapatika Ukraine. Baada ya kuona Urusi inasonga mbele na kuzidi kuchukua maeneo mengi yenye madini, bora watumie mazungumzo na waigawane. Ndio maana kwenye mazungumzo ya kuamua hatma ya Ukraine, sio Ukraine mwenyewe wala ulaya iliyoalikwa. Na trump nationa Security Advisor, ametoa kama onyi kwamba ni must Ukraine kulipa hizo gharama na itakuwa wise kwake kutia sahihi, nje ya hapa inamaanisha ataliwa kichwa
Kwa Mrusi yeye yuko makini, sababu kuna mambo bado kwako hayapo ki clear, ishu hizo ni kama vile;
  1. Ikawa njia ya U.S na West ku buy time huku wakijipanga vita ikaanza upya, ndio maana pamoja na channel za kuanzisha makubaliano, bado huko frontline wanaendelea kukiwasha
  2. Kujua dhumuni halisi la marekani kwa Ukraune sio tu kumaliza vita na usimamizi wake kwa ujumla hasa huko mbeleni, sababu U.S sio trust worthy.
  3. Mgawanyo wa rasilimali nani achukue nini na wapi
  4. Hatma ya utawala wa Ukraine
Ulaya, hawa kwa sasa wako kwenye panick na confusion mode;
  1. Hawakutarajia kuachwa njia panda na U.S hasa baada ya kutumiwa na uchumi kuharibika
  2. Maslahi yao katika Ukraine, walishaanza kujipanga kui invest na kupata rasilimali hasa lithium na madini mengine,
  3. Hatma yao kwenye nishati, Ukraine ndio kulikuwa na kinu kikubwa cha Nyuklia Ulaya
  4. kama wasilokubaliana na U.S na Urusi, jinsi gani watafufua uchumi wao uliodorora na kukubaliana na mabadiliko katima geo politcs nda ya miaka hii minne.
  5. Kuendelea na ishu ya Ukraine bila U.S support na wao wasikose chochote
Kwa kifupi hii chase game iko katika critical stage. Haya ni mawazo yangu na yanaruhusiwa kupingwa
 
goswe said:
⚡Zelensky:

Nobody at a high level is raising the issue of elections in Ukraine.

Putin is the one raising it and sometimes there are voices from the US.
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Hapa pana siri kubwa uchaguzi kwa Ukraine ndiyo mwisho wa vita maana waukrain watachagua viongozi team russia hivyo ukrain yote itakuwa mali halali ya urusi
 
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