Tanzania haina wajasiriamali, kuwapata ni ngumu na wakipatikana mauzo ya kwanza vurugu za mgao

[Nicholas]

Nope, biashara aim is to make profit na watu wanaweka hela zao. Hivyo ni lazima watu wahakikishe hela zao walizoweka zinarudi na faida. In other words biashara ikifa ni hasara kwa mwekezaji kuna mambo mengi ya kuzingatia mfano: washindani, risk, ushuru, soko, aina ya wateja na mengineo, hivyo mwekezaji akiona mbele sio kuzuri anaweza ona bora achukue chake inategemea na makubaliano ya awali na nani mwenye sauti.

Upande wa activism hakuna vitu kama hivyo kwa hiyo management doest have to worry about that kwa hivyo principles za biashara haziwezi kuwa sawa na za chama cha siasa wala strategies haziwezi lingana, mafanikio ya activism ni kuona sera zinabadilishwa largely or measures taken to help the cause, i dont see how viongozi wake wanaweza gawana mafanikio hayo.

Mkuu leo jumapili umeanza kinywaji mapema nini, acha sio kizuri kwako.

haha..tutakuwa tofauti sana wakati tunaelemishana.Sijui sijakuambia vyema..ktk mifano yangu.Ninaposema principale za biashara si lazima profit iwe moja.Watu wana goals, na kitu ch aku realize.

Km unadhani Activism hawana fikra za kibishara utakuwa umefanyw kilema na ujamaa....wanachotaka fikia ni biashara,wanawekeza na wanategemea pata faida inayokuwa realized kwa mafanikio wanayotaka yafikia.Na watafanya kila mbinu hata ikuhisha matangazo..ili wafikie hadhira na wanayotaka kufikiwa yafikiwe.

Pole sana....naona nilipokuwelea michezo,siasa, etc ukagundua si biashara tena,ukajaribu tafuta activism ili ujificeh tena huko.Ila hata hiyo activitism ina maeneo mapana sana...tena nyingine wahusika wanapigia debe wafanya biashara kabisa.

 

[LebronWade]

haha..tutakuwa tofauti sana wakati tunaelemishana.Sijui sijakuambia vyema..ktk mifano yangu.Ninaposema principale za biashara si lazima profit iwe moja.Watu wana goals, na kitu ch aku realize.

Km unadhani Activism hawana fikra za kibishara utakuwa umefanyw kilema na ujamaa....wanachotaka fikia ni biashara,wanawekeza na wanategemea pata faida inayokuwa realized kwa mafanikio wanayotaka yafikia.Na watafanya kila mbinu hata ikuhisha matangazo..ili wafikie hadhira na wanayotaka kufikiwa yafikiwe.

Pole sana....naona nilipokuwelea michezo,siasa, etc ukagundua si biashara tena,ukajaribu tafuta activism ili ujificeh tena huko.Ila hata hiyo activitism ina maeneo mapana sana...tena nyingine wahusika wanapigia debe wafanya biashara kabisa.

Mshikaji anakusoma sana tu sema ana kitu kama ka-beef ka makusudi.hivi...ila all is good watu wanaelewa including him!

 

[Eric Cartman]

Km unadhani Activism hawana fikra za kibishara utakuwa umefanyw kilema na ujamaa....wanachotaka fikia ni biashara,wanawekeza na wanategemea pata faida inayokuwa realized kwa mafanikio wanayotaka yafikia.Na watafanya kila mbinu hata ikuhisha matangazo..ili wafikie hadhira na wanayotaka kufikiwa yafikiwe.

Pole sana....naona nilipokuwelea michezo,siasa, etc ukagundua si biashara tena,ukajaribu tafuta activism ili ujificeh tena huko.Ila hata hiyo activitism ina maeneo mapana sana...tena nyingine wahusika wanapigia debe wafanya biashara kabisa.

Hivi kwenye activism financial opportunism hipo wapi hili viongozi watake tamaa ya kuona gurudumu alisogei baada ya kuchukua chao (as far as i am aware huko ni kuua movement), maana kama mtu anajitoa katikati wakati mafanikio yapo karibu si ndio sifa zinazidi kwa wale waliopigana mpaka kuona wanaopiganiwa wanafaidika.

Wakati kwenye upande wa pili wa shillingi kuna faida binafsi za mjasiriamali na mara nyingi hana maslahi ya mteja at heart bali financial opportunity anazokuja nazo, hivyo risk factors have to be included hili biashara iendelee (kujitoa ni option moja wapo hiwapo the market is bleak, unlike in activism unless mtu akubaliani tena na mawazo ya taasisi ndio ujiengua).

Sasa embu fafanua where is the correlation of participation between those two institution (activism and entrepreneurship) in relation to your generalized argument of impatience considering the circumstances of execution (challenges faced by those institution in their operations) as defined by their goals or success, hadi useme wote wanaongozwa na fikra ulizowawekea.

 

[Eric Cartman]

Mshikaji anakusoma sana tu sema ana kitu kama ka-beef ka makusudi.hivi...ila all is good watu wanaelewa including him!

Sasa unanilazimisha naelewa kitu ambacho sikielewi.

 

[Nicholas]

Mshikaji anakusoma sana tu sema ana kitu kama ka-beef ka makusudi.hivi...ila all is good watu wanaelewa including him!

haha..anaweza kuwa kaelemewa sana na fikra za mwenyekiti .....zaidi ya beef lake.
Shida ya wana CCM na wengine wa viwango vy adiv 5 ni kuingilia kila mjdala km wanaingilia issue inayowakutanisha matatifa wanayoyaita mabeberu.Huwa akili zinawatoka wanaanza kuwa defensive, militants etc.

watu km hawa hufanya mijadala isijadiliwe ktk critical angle..yaani km mimi nimeanzisha hili ,wengine wangeweza boresha zaidi na zaidi kwa kiasi cha kufanya nami nielewe zaidi.Hawa jamaa zetu huaribu tuu na kutukana hata pasipo na sababu.

Nikimuuliza anataka achieve nini mwishow a siku, akitoka hapa na kujikuta naface the same reality ktk harakati za kujikwamua ktk ujasiria mali.

Ktk wanaCCM wengi waliofanikiwa ni kwa dili haramu, na hata ushirika wao umeshikiliwa kwa blanket la hofu na matumaini kuwa kesho tutaiba zaidi,huku wengine wakiamini kwa kujikomba.Ndio maana hana Top Position wala mvuto wa kisiasa kihivyo ila anaamuru wana CCM na watendaji wa serikali apendavyo.

 

[Eric Cartman]

haha..anaweza kuwa kaelemewa sana na fikra za mwenyekiti .....zaidi ya beef lake.
Shida ya wana CCM na wengine wa viwango vy adiv 5 ni kuingilia kila mjdala km wanaingilia issue inayowakutanisha matatifa wanayoyaita mabeberu.Huwa akili zinawatoka wanaanza kuwa defensive, militants etc.

watu km hawa hufanya mijadala isijadiliwe ktk critical angle..yaani km mimi nimeanzisha hili ,wengine wangeweza boresha zaidi na zaidi kwa kiasi cha kufanya nami nielewe zaidi.Hawa jamaa zetu huaribu tuu na kutukana hata pasipo na sababu.

Nikimuuliza anataka achieve nini mwishow a siku, akitoka hapa na kujikuta naface the same reality ktk harakati za kujikwamua ktk ujasiria mali.

Ktk wanaCCM wengi waliofanikiwa ni kwa dili haramu, na hata ushirika wao umeshikiliwa kwa blanket la hofu na matumaini kuwa kesho tutaiba zaidi,huku wengine wakiamini kwa kujikomba.Ndio maana hana Top Position wala mvuto wa kisiasa kihivyo ila anaamuru wana CCM na watendaji wa serikali apendavyo.

Si umesikia magunia ya vyakula yanaoza songea wakati bei ya mchele wengi hawaimudu surely kuna opportunities za kibiashara, siasa sio njia ya kutokea fursa bado zipo sana tena sana ni kuzifuata tu, may be people have different priorities.

wewe jibu hoja hiyo relationship ya impatience umeifikiaje acha kelele.

 

[Nicholas]

Hivi kwenye activism financial opportunism hipo wapi hili viongozi watake tamaa ya kuona gurudumu alisogei baada ya kuchukua chao (as far as i am aware huko ni kuua movement), maana kama mtu anajitoa katikati wakati mafanikio yapo karibu si ndio sifa zinazidi kwa wale waliopigana mpaka kuona wanaopiganiwa wanafaidika.

Wakati kwenye upande wa pili wa shillingi kuna faida binafsi za mjasiriamali na mara nyingi hana maslahi ya mteja at heart bali financial opportunity anazokuja nazo, hivyo risk factors have to be included hili biashara iendelee (kujitoa ni option moja wapo hiwapo the market is bleak, unlike in activism unless mtu akubaliani tena na mawazo ya taasisi ndio ujiengua).

Sasa embu fafanua where is the correlation of participation between those two institution (activism and entrepreneurship) in relation to your generalized argument of impatience considering the circumstances of execution (challenges faced by those institution in their operations) as defined by their goals or success, hadi useme wote wanaongozwa na fikra ulizowawekea.

haha..activism nyingi ni social entrepreneurship....na sijui kwanini unataka finance iwe issue?Hata ktk reconomical business finance si lazima.kwa taarifa yako si tuu watu walitumia barter system pia leo pia watu wanaweza fanya biashara bila pesa..na kukubaliza zaidi hata faida wasilinganishe in terms of maney values.

Hizo Risk factor kila mahali sipo hata ktk uzazi , hata ktk uamini Mungu...kuna risk z akuikosa mbingu sekunde kadhaa kabla ya kufa.

Mengine naona unachanganya na moral values,ndio maana unakwama.

Nikikupamfano mwingi ni kitu kinachoitwa social responsibility..makampuni ktk nchi za kibepari huwa na project nyingine nyingi tuu za kurudisha hela na huduma nyingine zinaweza tunza jamii iwazungukayo ili mwishowe wapate jamii inayoweza kuwa soko zuri la biashara zao,ili wapate nguvu kazi bora etc...pia wapo watu wanaokimbizana kufanya biashara huku wakikomaa sana kufanikisha jamii kwa kiwango ch akugombana na serikali ili wakifanikiwa watu nao wafanikiwe....activism ni business km nyingine ila realization ya profit inatofautiana.

 

[Eric Cartman]

haha..activism nyingi ni social entrepreneurship....na sijui kwanini unataka finance iwe issue?

Sasa naona unaanza kukana maandishi yako wakati wewe ndio uliosema people loose patients once income is being generated, mara unaona sio issue tena na watu wamekuja wanasema wanakutetea na wamekuelewa (i'm thinking their dissapointed na kauli yako mpya maana wengine walijenga premise za kukutetea kufuatia mistari hiyo), sasa kwanini people are impatience kama unavyodai kama hela sio issue tena.

Hata ktk reconomical business finance si lazima.kwa taarifa yako si tuu watu walitumia barter system pia leo pia watu wanaweza fanya biashara bila pesa..na kukubaliza zaidi hata faida wasilinganishe in terms of maney values.

Sijui unasoma vitabu gani, how is that practical in modern world, where policies influence many things and their costs of production country by country with global village how can you practice that au unadhani kwanini despite all the existing currency dola ikafanywa ndio currency ya kibiashara, halafu wewe unazungumzia complication za barter trade dunia ya leo.

Hapo bado sijui mzalishaji atatumia vipimo vipi economically kujua where to stop producing maana kwa sasa unajua watu hawana au wanazo kutokana na ajira zilizopo na mapato, under your idea ina maana wafanya biashara nao lazima waakikishe there is enough of their preferred desired exchanged good for them to plan their production, considering a variety of goods and services available sijui hilo swala unalimonitor vipi kama mfanyabiashara hili kupanga strategy zako (complicated issue for you, lets just leave that)

Hizo Risk factor kila mahali sipo hata ktk uzazi , hata ktk uamini Mungu...kuna risk z akuikosa mbingu sekunde kadhaa kabla ya kufa.

Amna anae bishia hilo, lakini kila risk ina precautions measures zake kama mzazi ana nafasi ya kuchagua mkunga na daktari aga khan, to minimise the risk you know where her option would be, halikadhalika wenye kutaka kumuona mungu lazima waingie nyumba za ibada. Ingawa zote ni measurement za ku minimise risks, nevertheless the actions differ. Sasa waliopo kwenye taasisi ambazo zina malengo ya pressure groups na wafanyabiashara iweje wanamalengo sawa fafanua acha longolongo zako na hadithi mingi ambazo ujui hata unaongea nini as you open up.

Mengine naona unachanganya na moral values,ndio maana unakwama.

Nimekwambia acha tabia ya kujiuliza na kujithibitishia mwenyewe kama ulivyofanya kwenye main topic ya thread yako, where did i imply moral values in my argument.

Nikikupamfano mwingi ni kitu kinachoitwa social responsibility..makampuni ktk nchi za kibepari huwa na project nyingine nyingi tuu za kurudisha hela na huduma nyingine zinaweza tunza jamii iwazungukayo ili mwishowe wapate jamii inayoweza kuwa soko zuri la biashara zao,ili wapate nguvu kazi bora etc

In case you dont hilo ni zao la activism ndio maana nikakwambia kwenye taasisi iliyojikita hivyo faida zinaelekea kwa wanaopiginiwa na taasisi ya kibiashara maslahi ni kwa internal stakeholders (ingawa hata sijui hiyo point imeingia vipi with theargument at hand)

...pia wapo watu wanaokimbizana kufanya biashara huku wakikomaa sana kufanikisha jamii kwa kiwango ch akugombana na serikali ili wakifanikiwa watu nao wafanikiwe....activism ni business km nyingine ila realization ya profit inatofautiana.

Mfanyabiashara kamwe apiganii maslahi ya mteja ungesema ni opportunity argued as of mutual benefit as the father of exploitative 'Adam Smith' put it labda, lakini usichanganye madawa results seeked by activism are different of that of an entrepreneur, one exists to see improvement of the their cause, while the other offers her services/goods in return for your money. Different risks play apart, different motives pushes.

Me out you dont know what you are talking about.

 

[Nicholas]

Sasa naona unaanza kukana maandishi yako wakati wewe ndio uliosema people loose patients once income is being generated, mara unaona sio issue tena na watu wamekuja wanasema wanakutetea na wamekuelewa (i'm thinking their dissapointed na kauli yako mpya maana wengine walijenga premise za kukutetea kufuatia mistari hiyo), sasa kwanini people are impatience kama unavyodai kama hela sio issue tena.

Nadhani hujaona wapi nimekujibu....neno enterpreneurship-Ujasiriamali...Nadhani hukujielewa ulipotumia hilo neno..miminikaongezea Social ili akili yako ya hela Finance ijitambue.

..NGO nyingi zina ugonvi kwa taarifa yako.Hata km Zinafanya kazi isiyoingiza hela au material..basi watu hugombea grants,kms i grant sifa inayokuja kutoka ktk jamii..km matokeo ya kazi nzuri nayo pia ni the desire product is ready.\

hata kwa vitu vilivyokiwsha pita watu wnaagombea nani alifanya zaidi na heshima gani na kwa kiasi gani apewe.

Sijui unasoma vitabu gani, how is that practical in modern world, where policies influence many things and their costs of production country by country with global village how can you practice that au unadhani kwanini despite all the existing currency dola ikafanywa ndio currency ya kibiashara, halafu wewe unazungumzia complication za barter trade dunia ya leo.

Practicanility inategemea na jamii, na situation..hata baba yako nyumbani kukulisha nyama na kukupeleka shule kuna kipidni inaweza kuwa si priority km mambo yanabana vizuri.Wawekezaji nao wanaweza wasiweweke efforts sana km kuwatunza wana jamii na kuwasomesha kutaishia mfaidisha cometotors wake ambaye hayupo tayari kuchangia.

pengine hutakiwa amini hili ila kuna mikoa ilikuw an wafanya bishara waliokuwa wanaleta bidhaa mjini na kuwauzia wana kijiji hadi kuwamalizia hela zao zote,halafu pia wakakuta kijiji hakina nguvu kazi kabisa ya kufanya kazi zake.wengi huwafundisha kazi vyema bila malipo ili baadaye wawajiri...na kuwalipa pia.wengine huanzisha biashara ya mazao ili wanakijiji walete mazao..na wengine huwalipia hata watoto wa shule kw akutenga fungu kabisa....hii ni biashara..kwani baadaye hao waliosomesha watatumika ktk uzalishaji mzuri,na wengine watakwenda leta hele nje ya eneo na kuja zitumia ktk hao wawekezaji.

Same kwa barabara...

Hapo bado sijui mzalishaji atatumia vipimo vipi economically kujua where to stop producing maana kwa sasa unajua watu hawana au wanazo kutokana na ajira zilizopo na mapato, under your idea ina maana wafanya biashara nao lazima waakikishe there is enough of their preferred desired exchanged good for them to plan their production, considering a variety of goods and services available sijui hilo swala unalimonitor vipi kama mfanyabiashara hili kupanga strategy zako (complicated issue for you, lets just leave that)

sikuelewi hapa....naona unatumia terminologies km ZITTO halafu unadhani umesolve au kueleza kitu.....wewe ukifnaya bishara hujui kupima mafanikio yako?Au ukianzisha NGO hujui mafanikio yako na wapi utaridhishwa?

Amna anae bishia hilo, lakini kila risk ina precautions measures zake kama mzazi ana nafasi ya kuchagua mkunga na daktari aga khan, to minimise the risk you know where her option would be, halikadhalika wenye kutaka kumuona mungu lazima waingie nyumba za ibada. Ingawa zote ni measurement za ku minimise risks, nevertheless the actions differ. Sasa waliopo kwenye taasisi ambazo zina malengo ya pressure groups na wafanyabiashara iweje wanamalengo sawa fafanua acha longolongo zako na hadithi mingi ambazo ujui hata unaongea nini as you open up.

Haha..nikusaidie tuu..wengi wa wanaokuja gombea faida ni wale ambao walikuwa wanaona ni too risk kuacha kazi, au ni too risk kuonekana na hawa watu ,au ni aibu sana kuonekana ktk office ndogo km hii, au hawakupenda sana weka etxra time na effort au resources ili kufanikisha..hao ndio sensitive sana kwa kiasi na hivyo mafanikio yanyoweza wafanya wasiote tena shida walizokuw awakiziogopa basi huona sasa kw ahadhi yao walipaswa kutangazia uma kuwa ni mali yao,bila hawa viwingu ambao wanaweza waita kuwa walikua vibarua tuu.

Nimekwambia acha tabia ya kujiuliza na kujithibitishia mwenyewe kama ulivyofanya kwenye main topic ya thread yako, where did i imply moral values in my argument.

In case you dont hilo ni zao la activism ndio maana nikakwambia kwenye taasisi iliyojikita hivyo faida zinaelekea kwa wanaopiginiwa na taasisi ya kibiashara maslahi ni kwa internal stakeholders (ingawa hata sijui hiyo point imeingia vipi with theargument at hand)

naona unaamua mahali pa mutual benefits unaamua kuangali material benefits tuu..?Hivi unajua mataifa yanatoa misaada..ili wasipate hels ila diplomasia tuu,ili kuunguza uhalifu ambao baaaye unakuja wadhuru na kuwapa hasara...?hivi unajua wengine wanatoa misaada ili kutua mizigo,wengine wantoa ili kupata faida wanayoithamini ..THAWABU kwa Mungu wao...wengine wanafanya ili kupata satisfaction..wengine wapate PRIDE.wangine wapate nafsi ya kupata POWER NA RESPECT..?wengine hawana kazi,wala pa kupunguza hela kwa hiyo wanafanya hivyo ili kuwa na cha kufanya......hembu fungua akili kidogo ili tuende pamoja.

Mfanyabiashara kamwe apiganii maslahi ya mteja ungesema ni opportunity argued as of mutual benefit as the father of exploitative 'Adam Smith' put it labda, lakini usichanganye madawa results seeked by activism are different of that of an entrepreneur, one exists to see improvement of the their cause, while the other offers her services/goods in return for your money. Different risks play apart, different motives pushes.

Me out you dont know what you are talking about.

Haha....si kweli ..ktk ethical business hakuna hilo..mfanyabishara anatafuta mazimum profit....akijua mteja anatafuta minimum..so atajaribu pushi hadi pale mteja atakopishia kuwa willingi kununua,na mteja anapambana hadi afike pale muuzaji anakuwa willing kuuza..hapo ndipo inakuwa marekt price.Km hapakuwa na hila au mashinikizo ya kufikia hapo ni halali.Na si jukumu pekee la Mfanyabishara ingawa ni mdau.

Sasa kwanini unalazimisha kuwa kupigania mteja sio biashara......kwa taarifa yako wafanyabishara wanajiyuma sana kulinda wateja wao.km si vita hujitahidi sana kuwapa afya njema ili hata wasife.

 

[Avril]

Hata sijui unatumiaga nini mwenzetu, nyuzi zako wakati mwengine azieleweki kabisa. Mara wajasiliamali, mara wanasiasa, mara sijui kutumia faida, mara kugombana, mara wanasiasa wamekuwa wajasiriali or the other way round kwenye taasisi as if a political organisation and a business organisation are managed in the same manner. Yaani inakuwa vigumu sana kukupata.

Ushauri wa bure acha kutumia hicho kilevi.

duh me mwenyewe nimeshndwa kumuelewa,naona kunde, choroko,mbaazi in the same pot...hataree,though he seems to ideas sema hajaput into a good shape.....!