Tanzania meter gage trains are better than Kenya SGR trains.
Tanzania meter gage trains are better than Kenya SGR trains.
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El Capitan
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So what? another d*ck measuring contest, while your sgr hasn't even started
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Its meter gage train vs sgr train
thisdayes
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Huku siyo kuhamisha magoli! Hapa una hamisha uwanja kabisa [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1]
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Punguza hasira tunachangia kwa hoja.
MK254
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Uwanja na magoli ni yale yale sijahamisha chochote, nyie mumejawa vituko mara vichwa vya treni vimeibuka bila ya kuwa na mmiliki, mumevikimbia nyote, mara kontena zinapatikana bila mmiliki, mara ndege limeshikiliwa kisa deni...nyie bana.
eliakeem
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Subiri huu mziki wa China.
China is buying the world. Among the first LANDS to be sold to Chinese is Kenya.
*China Through SGR To Take Over Mombasa Port*
Over the last couple of weeks, news that China had taken ownership of a major Port in Sri Lanka was trending in Kenya for all the wrong reasons and biggest of all was fear.
Sri Lanka had taken too much debt from China to invest in infrastructure and started having issues with the payments.
The New York Times reports;
Struggling to pay its debt to Chinese firms, the nation of Sri Lanka formally handed over the strategic port of Hambantota to China on a 99-year lease last week, in a deal that government critics have said threatens the country’s sovereignty.
Kenya built the SGR from Mombasa to Nairobi at a *highly inflated cost of 327 billion*.
*Economic experts at the time had advised the government to instead spend a mere 16 billion and do the same job.*
Against all the bravado and digitization PR the government could master, it went ahead in constructing a whole new line at that inflated cost. *Other countries achieved much faster trains and more modern technologies for much less $$.*
*Now here is the problem, the loan for the construction of the SGR was actually insured by the Mombasa Port. A deal was agreed to that the port will provide business to the SGR.*
KPA is required to provide at least 6Million Tonnes annually to SGR or pay the difference where a shortfall occurs.
Because of this, a decree was issued that all containers destined for Nairobi and beyond will be transported by the SGR to the ICD in Nairobi for clearance. Problem is that the numbers are not working.
The passenger numbers expected cannot sustain running of the SGR passenger service. What this has resulted is increase in fares from the initial Sh 700 to now Sh1200 and numbers still dont add up.
The containers too are not working out. Aside from the big inconvenience to importers and the massive losses of jobs in Mombasa, the containers do not make enough to sustain the project.
*The SGR debt cannot be paid by the operations of the SGR itself (both the containers and passengers) and KPA cannot pay the difference as the funds are just not there.*
*So at the end, Kenya now faces the same situation as Sri Lanka, the Port was used as collateral and the option of leasing the management of the Port and SGR to China to offset the debt is becoming more real by the day.*
Bilionea Asigwa
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he he he he
The country of wakora.
Hakuna chema utakuta huko.
The country of wakora.
Hakuna chema utakuta huko.
sean marcus
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Wacheni pupa sihata muwache treni ifike Moro kwanza...
Usiwatukane wakunga na uzazi ungalipo...
Make your judgement when the Two trains will be both in operation.
joto la jiwe
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Msipoteze lengo la mleta mada, ameweka picha za train za Tanzania na kusema ni bora kuliko hizi za kisasa za SGR za Kenya, tafadhali ajibiwe kwa hoja, ikiwezekana kwa kuweka picha za trains za SGR za Kenya, picha za ndani na nje, msikimbie uzi kwa kuleta mada tofauti na hii.
MK254
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Haya mavitu huwa siyasomi yote, nikisoma mstari wa kwanza nayapotezea, japo ni mziki mtamu kwa Watanzania, ila kumbuka mapropaganda yamejaa kwenye mitandao na yanapoteza muda wako bure kuyakeshea ukiyasoma kwenye blogs za Kenya.
Ukitaka nianike mapropaganda ambayo yanaandikwa na Watanzania dhidi ya nchi yenu utakimbia.
sean marcus
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Look at the first train you guys said are going to have na mkaiponda Kenyan Train.. Looking at your final product there is no difference..
Patience is a vertue Kaka
eliakeem
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Nenda hoja kwa HOJA. Siyo nadharia tu. Leta ukweli. Huo ndo ukweli niliouleta mimi, nawe leta wakwako.
Uhalisia ni KUWA the Kenyan SGR will be sold out to Chinese. Coz the SGR operating expenses surpasses operating revenue. So the GoK has to take cash FROM other sources to top up the deficit. And no the bright future ahead.
MK254
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Ndio maana nikakuambia ni vigumu kwako wewe kuelewa chochote maana unataka muziki wa mapropaganda yanayofurahisha maskio yako tu.
Ungekua level headed usiyependa kukurupuka na mwenye uwezo wa kupokea nondo ningekupa darasa la output, outcome, impact, and socio-economic benefits of Kenyan SGR.