Tanzania Mining Act of 2010 (Vain Politics)

[H.S]

Your posts gets naiv-er as time goes.
I don't even think you know what you are talking about.

Tanzanite is becoming rarer and will only last 10 more years before all deposits will be depleted. Just like oil which will dissappear in the next century if consumed at the current rate.

China has shown a lot of interest, and with a tighter control of the black market, investment in Tanzanite will definately be a smart move.

The price was at its peak in Oct 2012 ... and fell by almost 5% in just two months...... We know whats going on. So, just pack up and get the hell on if you think Tanzanite will never be as precious. Just go somewhere with your bulldozers or whatever u use, why still fighting for lincence renewal???

You think TanzaniteOne has any problems selling you shares? They would love to sell you those $8 shares.

Somebody comes to your own country, makes millions of dollars selling your resources through IPO, he then also sells you shares in the secondary market , again shares backed by your own resources and you actually think you are smart because you now own shares!!!

Mukitaka kufunguliwa macho muache kuuziwa mashamba yenu wenyewe munakuwa na hasira na kusema 'lazima tununue hisa' !!.

Afrika ni bara pekee duniani ambalo muwekezaji wa kigeni anaweza kwenda na kuwauzia wananchi rasilimali zao wenyewe tena wanafurahia na hata kupitisha sheria za kulazimisha kuuziwa vya kwao!! Ajabu sana.

 

[Kobello]

You think TanzaniteOne has any problems selling you shares? They would love to sell you those $8 shares.

Somebody comes to your own country, makes millions of dollars selling your resources through IPO, he then also sells you shares in the secondary market , again shares backed by your own resources and you actually think you are smart because you now own shares!!!

Mukitaka kufunguliwa macho muache kuuziwa mashamba yenu wenyewe munakuwa na hasira na kusema 'lazima tununue hisa' !!.

Afrika ni bara pekee duniani ambalo muwekezaji wa kigeni anaweza kwenda na kuwauzia wananchi rasilimali zao wenyewe tena wanafurahia na hata kupitisha sheria za kulazimisha kuuziwa vya kwao!! Ajabu sana.

Hujui hata unalozungumza. Did they really hire you to do their PR work? ... lol.

Shares is nothing but ownership. You can choose to have a slice or half a pizza. Just float your damn shares and see if people will buy them or not (in shillings ,lol). But we want 50% or more owned by Tanzanians.

if you don't mind selling those shares (up to 50%), why are you crying like a lil girl? (ain't gonna say that "b" word).

 

[H.S]

It does not seem like you have the basic skill and capacity to analyze stock.

All I hear is political noise.

 

[Kichuguu]

H.S. You may have lost something by the enactment of this law; however, you should be thankful that you enjoyed something before the law took effect.

Going through all posts, you must acknowledge that you may have misunderstood the act, and probably you were furious at its effects on your personal interests. The claims that you have raised here are not stipulated in that act. Many of us have strong records of attacking the government on anything that don't make sense, but this one is not one of them. We could have sided if your concerns were on its ineffectiveness in achieving what it intends, but your main concern is diametrically opposite: that it should not do what it intends!

 

[H.S]

H.S. You may have to lost something by the enactment of this law; however, you should be thankful that you enjoyed something before the law took effect.

Going through all posts, you must acknowledge that you may have misunderstood the act, and probably you were furious at its effects on your personal interests. The claims that you have raised here are not stipulated in that act. Many of us have strong records of attacking the government on anything that don't make sense, but this one is not one of them. We could have sided if your concerns were on its ineffectiveness in achieving what it intends, but your main concern is diametrically opposite: that it should not do what it intends!

I challenge you to name one economic benefit afforded to Tanzanians that they never had before the passage of this law, name only one economic benefit.

Tanzanians have always had the chance to buy TanzaniteOne shares. Hakuna Mtanzania hata mmoja aliyetaka kununua hisa za TanzaniteOne shares na kukataliwa.


Katika extractive industries fedha inapatikana by being a promoter and founder of assets na wale wanaonunua in primary market sio kwa kuuziwa hisa in secondary market kama munavyotaka.

Before you bring up silly politics of personal interest you need to ask yourself in what possible capacity my personal interests could be jeorpadized. Hata kwa wenye hisa you are not going to in any way impact their interest, how can you when you are buying a stake just like them?

Use some economic reasoning instead of silly politics.

Tanzania kuna biashara zinalipa kuliko hizo hisa za TanzaniteOne, tatizo la wa Tanzania wengi ni kwamba hawajui thamani ya rasilimali zilizopo nchini nanjinsi ya ku create wealth.

Watanzania hawawezi kuendelea kwa hizi sera za kuuziwa rasilimali zao wenyewe. Ulitakiwa ujaribu kuelewa wapi Serikali inafanya makosa ya kiufundi na hasara zake badala ya kuleta siasa za kununua hisa amabazo tayari unao haki ya kisheria kuzinunua.

 

[Kichuguu]

I challenge you to name one economic benefit afforded to Tanzanians that they never had before the passage of this law, name only one economic benefit.

Tanzanians have always had the chance to buy TanzaniteOne shares. Hakuna Mtanzania hata mmoja aliyetaka kununua hisa za TanzaniteOne shares na kukataliwa.


Katika extractive industries fedha inapatikana by being a promoter and founder of assets na wale wanaonunua in primary market sio kwa kuuziwa hisa in secondary market kama munavyotaka.

Before you bring up silly politics of personal interest you need to ask yourself in what possible capacity my personal interests could be jeorpadized. Hata kwa wenye hisa you are not going to in any way impact their interest, how can you when you are buying a stake just like them?

Use some economic reasoning instead of silly politics.

Tanzania kuna biashara zinalipa kuliko hizo hisa za TanzaniteOne, tatizo la wa Tanzania wengi ni kwamba hawajui thamani ya rasilimali zilizopo nchini nanjinsi ya ku create wealth.

Watanzania hawawezi kuendelea kwa hizi sera za kuuziwa rasilimali zao wenyewe. Ulitakiwa ujaribu kuelewa wapi Serikali inafanya makosa ya kiufundi na hasara zake badala ya kuleta siasa za kununua hisa amabazo tayari unao haki ya kisheria kuzinunua.

Sitaki kutumia maneno mabaya ila nashindwa kusema kuwa una matatizo na ujuzi wa taaluma ya uchumi. Interests zako binafsi huko Tanzaniteone zisiwe ndizo sera za Taifa. Katika posts zako nyingi umekuwa unajifanya mjuzi sana kuliko watanzania wengine wote kwa kuwa-label kuwa wajinga-hawajui, na kila mara umekuwa unatanguliza "personal interests" zako.

(1) Sera za nchi ni za nchi siyo za personal interests. Hata Marekani ina sera za nchi ambazo huwa zinapingana sana na personal interests za watu wengi. Kwa mfano mmarekani hawezi kufanya biashara na Cuba, hata kama ni biashara yenye faida sana. Kuna wakati Marekani, nchi inayotumia mafuta sana ilikuwa haiwezi kununua mafuta Iraki. Hizo ni sera za nchi siyo za mtu binafsi. Kujidai kuwa unataka kutenganisha mambo ya uchumi na siasa za nchi ni upungufu mkubwa sana wa kutokujua elimu ya uchumi kwani hakuna uchumi duniani hapa ambao haumbatani na siasa za nchi husika. Lengo la sheria hiyo ni kuhakikisha kuwa uchimbaji wa madini hadimu unaambatana na kuwanufaisha watanzania. Mtu wa aina hiyo unaweza kudai leo serikali itumie njia ya Taxation lakini kesho ukakurupuka hapa na kudai kuwa taxation hiyo siyo fair au ni political! Utaratibu wote duniani ni kufuata sheria za nchi husika; hata kama ni sheria mbovu- after all, kama umeelimika vya kutosha utakuwa unajua kuwa hakuna sheria ambayo ni perfect hapa duniani.

(2) Kwa vile wewe ni mtaalamu mkubwa sana wa uchumi, ni lazima uwe unajua kuwa kuna njia nyingi sana za kutengeza pesa kihalali kulingana na sheria za nchi husika. Kutokana kubanwa huko kwenye Tanzanite basi hamia kwenye raslimali nyingine unazona kuwa watanzania hawazioni. Very simple!

(3) Ndugu H.S.; inaelekea unaumizwa sana na Tanzaniteone kuambiwa waweke 50% ya stocks zao hapo DSE zinunuliwe na watanzania; sheria inazema hivyo. Washauri wafanye hivyo mara moja, halafu kama hawataki zichukuliwa na watanzania basi wazinunue zote kama kampuni ya ki-tanzania. Hili ni jambo rahisi sana kufanyika kibiashara kwani kuna loopholes nyingi za kupitia. Lakini iwapo wewe unayetaka kuleta issue isiyokuwa na maana ndiye "Consultant" wao basi wameula wa chuya, kwani maoni yako hayastahili kuwa yanatoka mdomoni mwa consultant. Umekuwa mtu wa aina ya Sarah Hermitage anayetapanya matusi duniani kote kulaumua Tanzania yote ilihali ni yeye mwenyewe aliyeshindwa kutimiza masharti ya mkataba wake. Wewe pia ukikalia kupiga kelele dhidi ya sheria badala ya kuifuata basi kampuni yako itakosa interests zote kwani hawatapewa hiyo leseni tena; mtakuwa mmekosa vyote.