Tanzanians, come here lets reason together

[vulcan]

Tunaangalia katika TV zenu za Kenya, kuna maeneo hayana, umeme, maji, barabara nk hafu unakuja kujadili TZ hapa. Hivi huwa mnawashwashwa kila mara mnataka mambo ya Tz, fanyeni yenu

ha ha how many areas have no power compared to areas that have power, only the very remote areas ??? my village has power, all main roads are bitumen standard, others are passable on all weather because they have murram. Primary education in public schools is free, villagers have access to health centers(medicines are not always available due to mismanagement but with devolution things are getting better), Majority of Sec schools are equipped and with teachers, still improving quality - the govt budget on educ this year is 400B.. We have more universities and technical institutes than UG and TZ combined.. power supply is reliable, blackouts are rare btw though power is still expensive coz of taxes ...

We are improving at a fast rate...in 10yrs with minimal stealing..we will be very very far

 

[MK254]

Our problem is You

Hapa uko sahihi, ile siku Watanzania mtaacha kuona Kenya kwenye kila aina ya shida zenu ndio mtaamka na kugundua tatizo lenu kubwa ni laana mliyoachiwa ya CCM na ujamaa.
Tutaendelea kuwapiga bao katika kila sekta, leo hii tofauti ya uchumi baina ya Kenya na Tanzania imeongezeka sana ukilinganisha na miaka 20 iliyopita.

 

[Mwanzi1]

We are having a national conversation, something considered a taboo in Tanzania, where only one man can speak.
Decisions have not been made, so don't go around collecting everything you hear and taking it as the approved proposal.

You can all talk from here to Mars, but politicians are the one running the show. And if you trust position to deliver what you want, think again.

 

[Baba Joseph17]

ha ha how many areas have no power compared to areas that have power, only the very remote areas ??? my village has power, all main roads are bitumen standard, others are passable on all weather because they have murram. Primary education in public schools is free, villagers have access to health centers(medicines are not always available due to mismanagement but with devolution things are getting better), Majority of Sec schools are equipped and with teachers, still improving quality - the govt budget on educ this year is 400B.. We have more universities and technical institutes than UG and TZ combined.. power supply is reliable, blackouts are rare btw though power is still expensive coz of taxes ...

We are improving at a fast rate...in 10yrs with minimal stealing..we will be very very far

We acha kiingereza kirefu bila data, tatizo mnajiona mnamaisha mazuri wakati mnaishi katika slams, REA iliyopo Kenya inategemea wafadhili sisi Tz tulijitoa tunatumia pesa kutoka tozo za mafuta na umeme kupeleka umeme, ninyi mtakaa sana na kuendelea kukopa na miradi haitakamilika.

 

[vulcan]

Kuna wengine hapa hawajuwi nchi yao vizuri, sio watembeaji wa nchi yao.

our media freedom is 20yrs ahead of TZ my bro, our media will highlight any small thing that the govt is not doing and call for action.
Whereas your media is even prevented from criticizing the govt on petty issues..

Maghufuli has even banned anyone from releasing any stats except the govt.

So just because your media has been hiding a rotten system does not mean there is no rot

 

[pingli-nywee]

That's what you were told, but there is more than just a simple hand shake.

Let no one lie to you, the reign of cockerels, god-men and leaders with absolute powers is a forgotten era in Kenya. We pushed them off the cliff through sweat, blood and tears and emmerged with a new constitution in the process.

 

[Kidzude]

Bongo lazima uepukane na utajiri kwa sababu ya dhamira na maudhui ya ushirikina. Inaaminika ukiwa tajiri wachawi hawatapumzika hadi wahakikishe umefilisika. Waja wengi huona ni afadhali kuwa fukara badala ya kurogwa pindi tu watajirikapo. Hii inapelekea wabongo wengi kuzembea kazini na unajua madhara yake

Bus fare ni kes 5000 tafuta kes 20000 uje utembee usisimuliwe.

 

[Mwanzi1]

our media freedom is 20yrs ahead of TZ my bro, our media will highlight any small thing that the govt is not doing and call for action.
Whereas your media is even prevented from criticizing the govt on petty issues..

Maghufuli has even banned anyone from releasing any stats except the govt.

So just because your media has been hiding a rotten system does not mean there is no rot

But Kenyan media is 100 year behind UK France or Germany or Canada. We've see murder of journalists, lawyers, election officials even witness in Kenya with little information or cover up by Mr. Big. So your idea of media freedom in Kenya is kind of illusion if you ask me.

 

[vulcan]

We acha kiingereza kirefu bila data, tatizo mnajiona mnamaisha mazuri wakati mnaishi katika slams, REA iliyopo Kenya inategemea wafadhili sisi Tz tulijitoa tunatumia pesa kutoka tozo za mafuta na umeme kupeleka umeme, ninyi mtakaa sana na kuendelea kukopa na miradi haitakamilika.

wafadhili ?? have you seen the Kenyan govt budget on Health,Education,transport and power? I am not saying we have the best standards yet, but you cannot compare the quality of roads, health ,education , power distribution in KE n TZ .

The other thing on slums, most Kenyans living in slums in Nairobi have homes up-country, they are not homeless or landless except a few. People come to Nairobi to work. there is also a shortage of low cost housing.But that sector has started attracting investors.

We don't live in utopian imagination where everything is good as the govt tells us. We know our problems and we are working on them. As opposed to TZ who think they are in paradise

 

[Baba Joseph17]

wafadhili ?? have you seen the Kenyan govt budget on Health,Education,transport and power? I am not saying we have the best standards yet, but you cannot compare the quality of roads, health ,education , power distribution in KE n TZ .

The other thing on slums, most Kenyans living in slums in Nairobi have homes up-country, they are not homeless or landless except a few. People come to Nairobi to work. there is also a shortage of low cost housing.But that sector has started attracting investors.

We don't live in utopian imagination where everything is good as the govt tells us. We know our problems and we are working on them. As opposed to TZ who think they are in paradise

We njoo Tz uone siyo kujiandikia tu, Health Care Tz ni sawa na bure

 

[eliakeem]

Hapa uko sahihi, ile siku Watanzania mtaacha kuona Kenya kwenye kila aina ya shida zenu ndio mtaamka na kugundua tatizo lenu kubwa ni laana mliyoachiwa ya CCM na ujamaa.
Tutaendelea kuwapiga bao katika kila sekta, leo hii tofauti ya uchumi baina ya Kenya na Tanzania imeongezeka sana ukilinganisha na miaka 20 iliyopita.

Sasa tutawezaje kuwafikia kiuchumi wakati cnn wamesema nyie topping the list.
Ahaaa. haaaaa

 

[vulcan]

But Kenyan media is 100 year behind UK France or Germany or Canada. We've see murder of journalists, lawyers, election officials even witness in Kenya with little information or cover up by Mr. Big. So your idea of media freedom in Kenya is kind of illusion if you ask me.

Which journalist was killed or arrested lastly in Kenya for doing his work?? On media freedom we are at par with Western Nations...that one i can guarantee you. When was the last time you heard a media house getting closed for reporting??

Several months ago a polling company released opinion results from the public, of the most corrupt politicians, our Pres , DP and former pres were in the list and they started defending themselves, did you hear any of them threatening the media or the polling co?

If this was in TZ they could have closed and gotten jailed.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Tanzanians please, i know you all love your country but honestly, you people don't see a problem that TZ, a nation with almost 100% arable land, abundant mineral resources, political stability, no ethnicity,massive land mass, very minimal corruption is still lagging behind and playing catch-up with a nation that has undergone political turmoil, massive corruption, tribalism and 2/3 of it is semi-arid, no substantial minerals..
what do you think is your problem???

Our problem is today KQ managed to transfer accumulation of air from Kenya to US like it doesn't care hivi KQ walikosea wapi? 20/280 this is super curse.

 

[Mwanzi1]

Which journalist was killed or arrested lastly in Kenya for doing his work?? On media freedom we are at par with Western Nations...that one i can guarantee you. When was the last time you heard a media house getting closed for reporting??

Several months ago a polling company released opinion results from the public, of the most corrupt politicians, our Pres , DP and former pres were in the list and they started defending themselves, did you hear any of them threatening the media or the polling co?

If this was in TZ they could have closed and gotten jailed.

Haha, on par with western world, have forgotten the closer of 5 TV station for airing swearing in of Odinga? If it was western world the government would've respected Court order and allowed the station to resume service.

My friend as much as your trying to force Kenya to resemble a white mans country, your failing to find your own accent, (meaning Kenyan way of doing things). Coping other countries thinking that's the only way to reach your goals, you denying yourself ability to be curative and finding new and simplified ways of doing things.

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Which journalist was killed or arrested lastly in Kenya for doing his work?? On media freedom we are at par with Western Nations...that one i can guarantee you. When was the last time you heard a media house getting closed for reporting??

Several months ago a polling company released opinion results from the public, of the most corrupt politicians, our Pres , DP and former pres were in the list and they started defending themselves, did you hear any of them threatening the media or the polling co?

If this was in TZ they could have closed and gotten jailed.

You must live inside Jubilee butt hole. Wasnt KTN Citizen and Nation Tv closed for a whole 2 weeks? Just Feb this year? Were Nation Jounalists not beaten by police when they went to film Dp ruto's Weston hotel that is Grabbing part of the indian ocean?
Was miguna, a kenyan by birth not deported because of his speech?

 

[Oii]

Kenya got tribalism and Tanzania got the failed Ujamaa ideology nonesense and CCM, the guardian of the ideology.

as soon as CCM gets out of power, Tanzania will be unstoppable because tanzanians will have and epiphany. Their eyes will be open to the posibilities that CCM has hidden from them

remember when we got rid KANU?! The national psyche changed and Kenyans started to demand more from themselves and from their government. That's what CCM keeps hidden from Tanzanians

Ccm doesn't practice that kind of ujamaa since nyerere left, and ccm ni kama nyoka, sasa inajitoa magamba chini ya tingatinga magufuli. Mtashangaa.

 

[Oii]

You must live inside Jubilee butt hole. Wasnt KTN Citizen and Nation Tv closed for a whole 2 weeks? Just Feb this year? Were Nation Jounalists not beaten by police when they went to film Dp ruto's Weston hotel that is Grabbing part of the indian ocean?
Was miguna, a kenyan by birth not deported because of his speech?

Umelimaliza hili jubilee propagandist.

Nalisoma humu, natingisha kichwa tu. Nasema hiiii!!!

 

[MK254]

You can all talk from here to Mars, but politicians are the one running the show. And if you trust position to deliver what you want, think again.

So funny coming from a typical CCM propagandist who spends all day defending every evil by own politicians.
Anyway, sioni hoja kwako maana unachorudia rudia ni hayo hayo. Katiba tutabadilisha maeneo muhimu na kuiboresha zaidi.

 

[MK254]

Sasa tutawezaje kuwafikia kiuchumi wakati cnn wamesema nyie topping the list.
Ahaaa. haaaaa

You're damn right about that one, kutufikia sio kwa vizazi kumi vijavyo, yaani nyie Watanzania ninaowafahamu fika, hehehehe mpo mbali sana na mtabaki huko hukooooo????

 

[joto la jiwe]

our media freedom is 20yrs ahead of TZ my bro, our media will highlight any small thing that the govt is not doing and call for action.
Whereas your media is even prevented from criticizing the govt on petty issues..

Maghufuli has even banned anyone from releasing any stats except the govt.

So just because your media has been hiding a rotten system does not mean there is no rot

Haitokaa itokee Kenya kuizidi Tanzania katika democracy and freedom of any sort, give evidence don't download from your brain.
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