Tanzania's cheap railway may be of poor quality

[Kafrican]

Acha upuuzi wewe na kujifanya mjuaji wakati hujui kitu, hizo US$500m ni kwa bajeti ya 2016/2017 tu, 2017/2018 zitaongezwa US$500m nyingine na 2018/2019 zitatolewa pesa zilizobaki.

Soma bango hilo uone nani ni mtoa pesa.

Turkey bado haijasema itatoa pesa ngapi, kwasasa ni pesa za Tz pekee ndo zinatumika, za turkey bado hazijaingia kama nilivyosema hapo awali


Sitaweka hata article moja ya Kenya, Nita quote zile ambazo si za Kenya

Tuanzie hapa ambapo serikali ya tz yenyewe kupitia JPM akiri kwamba hataweza kutoa zaidi ya $500m.

Mota Engil bags Tanzanian railway construction contract
FIRST BUGESERA AND NOW TANZANIA’S SGR CONSTRUCTION AS MOTA ENGIL SPREADS ITS WINGS

(Posted 05th February 2017)


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Regular sources in Dar es Salaam have confirmed that the Tanzanian government has wasted no time following the visit of Turkish President Erdogan two weeks ago.
It is understood that a Turkish company, Yapi Merkezi, has emerged as the top contender to help construct some 300 kilometres of the new SGR, short for Standard Gauge Railway along Tanzania’s central transport corridor.
The company signed relevant contracts with the Railway Assets Holding Company on Friday, alongside Portuguese company Mota Engil, which rose to sudden prominence outside Portuguese speaking countries in Africa last year when it signed a major deal with the Rwandan government to construct and manage under a concession agreement, the new international airport in Bugesera outside Kigali.

The deals are worth some 2.7 trillion Tanzania Shillings and cover a portion of the line which will eventually be 1.300 kilometres long, linking the port of Dar es Salaam with hinterland countries like Rwanda and Burundi and possibly extend as far as Eastern Congo.
Construction, due to start within two months, is estimated to take some 2 1/2 years to complete but other sections too need to be constructed at the same time to make the entire line operational.
It could not be established to what extend Turkey will step up in co-financing the project as the sources claim Tanzania at present will only be able to inject 1 trillion Tanzania Shillings into the project, needed additional financial resources to complete the project in time.
It is expected that contracts for other sections of the new central SGR line will be awarded over the coming weeks to fast track the project and bring the railway connection to Rwanda in on time, ahead of the Mombasa – Nairobi – Naivasha – Malaba – Kampala line


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1 Trillion Tanzanian shillions is approximately $450 Million dollars.......
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Hii hapa reference nyengine, Soma hapo hio paragraph left of 9, The govt already has the 1 trillion but will start the Construction and the rest will come from lenders.... And they were appealing for donors!!

Turkey company signs $1.1bn TZ railway deal


GCR - News - Tanzania courts Turkey for its rail megaproject, casting doubt on China’s role
Magafuli also asked Erdogan for a Turkish loan to finance a 400km stretch of the track, Daily News reports, and received in return a pledge from Erdogan that Turkey’s finance minister would “work on it”.
The government of Tanzania has allocated $500m of its own money in its current budget to fund the scheme.

Huo mkopo ni kwa awamu ya pili ya ujenzi, Morogoro-Makutupora, Dodoma. Awamu ya kwanza Dar-Moro pesa yote inatolewa na serikali ya Tanzania.

Kwasasa mmetoa $500 pekeyake, Dili mliyopiga na campuni ya turkey ni ya $1.2B, Construction yenyewe inatarajiwa kuchukua Miezi 30 au mwaka mmoja na nusu, Sasa we niambie kutoka sasa hadi juni mwaka ujao ambapo bajeti itasomwa tena, mnatarajia watatumia chini ya $500 kweli? ela hamtabaki mkisongeza deadline ya completion?

Tena isitoshe hizo pesa zengine kama bado mnapanga kulipia SGR zitatoka kwa Eurobond, Eurobond bado ni loan ya aina nyengine ambayo ukipewa unaeza itumia kwa lolote lile utakalo bila condition..


http://sadc.einnews.com/article__de...or-sgr-funds-leaves-china-in-limbo?vcode=XIbw
Tanzania's turn to Turkey for SGR funds leaves China in limbo
Jan 30, 2017
A railway line that once linked Kenya’s coast to Tanzania is no longer in use. Tanzania will use proceeds from a Eurobond and concessional loans to fund its standard gauge line. PHOTO | FILE Tanzania is looking at using proceeds from its $700 million Eurobond and concessional loans to fund the construction of its standard gauge railway, making a big policy shift from its regional … (continue reading)

Kwahivyo mnaeza mnaruhusiwa kuandika mabango mkisema government funded, Lakini pale kwa wizara ya afya kuna recite inaokota interest polepole tu

 

[Kafrican]

Ngoja nipunguze ujinga wako, kipande cha Dar- Moro ni 300km, chote kitagharimu 2.8tr Tsh(1.3bn $ ) na pesa yote itatolewa na GoT, ujenzi utachukua miezi 30 na GoT imeshatoa 500ml $ kwa bajeti inayoisha. Kwa bajeti mbili zinazofuata 2017/2018 na 2018/2019 itatoa tena 500ml $ na 300ml $ respectively.

Kipande cha Moro- Dodoma ndicho serikali inategemea kupata mkopo wa masharti nafuu kutoka benki za Uturuki na Dom na kuendelea watachukua mkopo kutoka world bank. Ni matumaini yangu nimepunguza ujinga wako na utakuwa balozi mzuri wa Reli ya Tz.

Serikali yenu imesema kwasasa wanaweza toa $500m pekee, mwaka huu mwachuki=ua ma loan ya eurobond ambayo yataingia mwisho wa mwaka au mwanzo wa mwaka ujao... Tutakua hapahapa tu.... Tutaona hio 100% govenment funding kama haitaishia hua kicheko, sahii mko mbioni mkitaka credit rating ili muweze kupewa Erobond ....
Kumbuka wachina walikua wanasitasita Kuwapa ile loan ya $7.6B ili kugaramia kila kitu, waliwaekea conditions ngumu ngumu
Usishangae JPM ilibidi aamue kuanza kulipia reli mwenyewe manake mchina alikua anasitasita kutoa loan yote hivi hivi...hahahhaah, haya tungoje ngoje tuangalie turkey atatoa loan ya shilingi ngapi manake mpaka sasa sijaskia kama wameamua watalipia kila kitu mpaka Rwand na Uganda ama badae mtarudi kule kwa wa china, ambaye ataamua kuwadukunyua vizuri sasa

The Chinese ambassador to Tanzania Dr Lv Youqing recently met with CCM Secretary-General, Abdulrahman Kinana, but details of their discussions were not made public.
The development comes amid government’s announcement that it was turning to China, South Korea, India and Turkey for concessional loans after it had raised concerns over tough conditions imposed on the government by development partners.
Despite the government allocating Tsh1 trillion ($500 million) in the current budget as initial construction cost, there have been questions over the viability of the project particularly the government’s ability to pay the debt.Turkey, China caught up in SGR tender confusion

 

[Half Genious]

Taanzania tunamsemo unasema "Muungwana akivuliwa nguo hasimami huchutama" nyie wazee mmeamua kusimama hizo article zimeandaliwa na watu na may be wana mrengo mmoja na nyinyi rais wetu tunae muamin ambae had nyinyi mnataka aje kugombea kasema $1.3 B ni fedha zetu zitakazojenga km 300 na amesema fedha zipo na zimepitishwa kwenye bajeti mbili na hata juzi kwenye uzinduzi ametoa agizo kama hukusikia amesema mradi huu ni wetu 100% na nataka waziri wa miundombinu uhakikishe wanao ajiriwa hapa ni watanzania kwa sasababu hela zetu hamna wa kutupangia...nyinyi hataki kukubali kuwa mmpegwa sababu mnajiona mnajua sana kumbe kutia ujuaji sasa wajuaji wanawapiga vizuri Magufuli ni bora sana linapokuja swala la ushawishi na ushahid mnao kuhusu bomba la mafuta ya uganda sasa hivi lita connect na mafuta ya DRC...sisi wa Tz ujamaa ulitufundisha kuwa humble nyinyi ubepari uliwafunza viburi na ndio maana hamuaminki hata kwenye mikataba ya East africa mmesaliti East africa kwa kusign mkataba wa EPA coz mnauza maua ulaya but mmekubalickuwa soko la ulaya..Magufuli kakataa kasema nchi hii sio soko la takataka tena..!..uchaguzi unakuja fanyen maamuzi sahihi na pia mjifunze kuwa humble kuliko kujifanya mjujaji kumbe unakaa kibera na humu jamii forum unajifanya upo Caren.!

 

[kilam]

Turkey bado haijasema itatoa pesa ngapi, kwasasa ni pesa za Tz pekee ndo zinatumika, za turkey bado hazijaingia kama nilivyosema hapo awali


Sitaweka hata article moja ya Kenya, Nita quote zile ambazo si za Kenya

Tuanzie hapa ambapo serikali ya tz yenyewe kupitia JPM akiri kwamba hataweza kutoa zaidi ya $500m.

Mota Engil bags Tanzanian railway construction contract
FIRST BUGESERA AND NOW TANZANIA’S SGR CONSTRUCTION AS MOTA ENGIL SPREADS ITS WINGS

(Posted 05th February 2017)


image29

image30

Regular sources in Dar es Salaam have confirmed that the Tanzanian government has wasted no time following the visit of Turkish President Erdogan two weeks ago.
It is understood that a Turkish company, Yapi Merkezi, has emerged as the top contender to help construct some 300 kilometres of the new SGR, short for Standard Gauge Railway along Tanzania’s central transport corridor.
The company signed relevant contracts with the Railway Assets Holding Company on Friday, alongside Portuguese company Mota Engil, which rose to sudden prominence outside Portuguese speaking countries in Africa last year when it signed a major deal with the Rwandan government to construct and manage under a concession agreement, the new international airport in Bugesera outside Kigali.

The deals are worth some 2.7 trillion Tanzania Shillings and cover a portion of the line which will eventually be 1.300 kilometres long, linking the port of Dar es Salaam with hinterland countries like Rwanda and Burundi and possibly extend as far as Eastern Congo.
Construction, due to start within two months, is estimated to take some 2 1/2 years to complete but other sections too need to be constructed at the same time to make the entire line operational.
It could not be established to what extend Turkey will step up in co-financing the project as the sources claim Tanzania at present will only be able to inject 1 trillion Tanzania Shillings into the project, needed additional financial resources to complete the project in time.
It is expected that contracts for other sections of the new central SGR line will be awarded over the coming weeks to fast track the project and bring the railway connection to Rwanda in on time, ahead of the Mombasa – Nairobi – Naivasha – Malaba – Kampala line


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1 Trillion Tanzanian shillions is approximately $450 Million dollars.......
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Hii hapa reference nyengine, Soma hapo hio paragraph left of 9, The govt already has the 1 trillion but will start the Construction and the rest will come from lenders.... And they were appealing for donors!!

View attachment 495686
Turkey company signs $1.1bn TZ railway deal


GCR - News - Tanzania courts Turkey for its rail megaproject, casting doubt on China’s role
Magafuli also asked Erdogan for a Turkish loan to finance a 400km stretch of the track, Daily News reports, and received in return a pledge from Erdogan that Turkey’s finance minister would “work on it”.
The government of Tanzania has allocated $500m of its own money in its current budget to fund the scheme.






Kwasasa mmetoa $500 pekeyake, Dili mliyopiga na campuni ya turkey ni ya $1.2B, Construction yenyewe inatarajiwa kuchukua Miezi 30 au mwaka mmoja na nusu, Sasa we niambie kutoka sasa hadi juni mwaka ujao ambapo bajeti itasomwa tena, mnatarajia watatumia chini ya $500 kweli? ela hamtabaki mkisongeza deadline ya completion?

Tena isitoshe hizo pesa zengine kama bado mnapanga kulipia SGR zitatoka kwa Eurobond, Eurobond bado ni loan ya aina nyengine ambayo ukipewa unaeza itumia kwa lolote lile utakalo bila condition..


http://sadc.einnews.com/article__de...or-sgr-funds-leaves-china-in-limbo?vcode=XIbw
Tanzania's turn to Turkey for SGR funds leaves China in limbo
Jan 30, 2017
A railway line that once linked Kenya’s coast to Tanzania is no longer in use. Tanzania will use proceeds from a Eurobond and concessional loans to fund its standard gauge line. PHOTO | FILE Tanzania is looking at using proceeds from its $700 million Eurobond and concessional loans to fund the construction of its standard gauge railway, making a big policy shift from its regional … (continue reading)

Kwahivyo mnaeza mnaruhusiwa kuandika mabango mkisema government funded, Lakini pale kwa wizara ya afya kuna recite inaokota interest polepole tu

Umechanganya vitu vingi hadi kukujibu inakuwa shida. Bajeti yetu ijayo itakuwa Juni mwaka huu na sio mwaka ujao. $500m ya mwanzo ipo tayari na ilikuwa kwenye bajeti ya 2016/2017 ambayo itaisha Juni 31 mwaka huu.
Hayo mambo ya Eurobond yalishajadiliwa na tukaamua kuachana nayo.

 

[3rd man]

H

Umechanganya vitu vingi hadi kukujibu inakuwa shida. Bajeti yetu ijayo itakuwa Juni mwaka huu na sio mwaka ujao. $500m ya mwanzo ipo tayari na ilikuwa kwenye bajeti ya 2016/2017 ambayo itaisha Juni 31 mwaka huu.
Hayo mambo ya Eurobond yalishajadiliwa na tukaamua kuachana nayo.

Hapa macho tu🙄

 

[Geza Ulole]

Turkey bado haijasema itatoa pesa ngapi, kwasasa ni pesa za Tz pekee ndo zinatumika, za turkey bado hazijaingia kama nilivyosema hapo awali


Sitaweka hata article moja ya Kenya, Nita quote zile ambazo si za Kenya

Tuanzie hapa ambapo serikali ya tz yenyewe kupitia JPM akiri kwamba hataweza kutoa zaidi ya $500m.

Mota Engil bags Tanzanian railway construction contract
FIRST BUGESERA AND NOW TANZANIA’S SGR CONSTRUCTION AS MOTA ENGIL SPREADS ITS WINGS

(Posted 05th February 2017)


image29

image30

Regular sources in Dar es Salaam have confirmed that the Tanzanian government has wasted no time following the visit of Turkish President Erdogan two weeks ago.
It is understood that a Turkish company, Yapi Merkezi, has emerged as the top contender to help construct some 300 kilometres of the new SGR, short for Standard Gauge Railway along Tanzania’s central transport corridor.
The company signed relevant contracts with the Railway Assets Holding Company on Friday, alongside Portuguese company Mota Engil, which rose to sudden prominence outside Portuguese speaking countries in Africa last year when it signed a major deal with the Rwandan government to construct and manage under a concession agreement, the new international airport in Bugesera outside Kigali.

The deals are worth some 2.7 trillion Tanzania Shillings and cover a portion of the line which will eventually be 1.300 kilometres long, linking the port of Dar es Salaam with hinterland countries like Rwanda and Burundi and possibly extend as far as Eastern Congo.
Construction, due to start within two months, is estimated to take some 2 1/2 years to complete but other sections too need to be constructed at the same time to make the entire line operational.
It could not be established to what extend Turkey will step up in co-financing the project as the sources claim Tanzania at present will only be able to inject 1 trillion Tanzania Shillings into the project, needed additional financial resources to complete the project in time.
It is expected that contracts for other sections of the new central SGR line will be awarded over the coming weeks to fast track the project and bring the railway connection to Rwanda in on time, ahead of the Mombasa – Nairobi – Naivasha – Malaba – Kampala line


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1 Trillion Tanzanian shillions is approximately $450 Million dollars.......
---------------------------------


Hii hapa reference nyengine, Soma hapo hio paragraph left of 9, The govt already has the 1 trillion but will start the Construction and the rest will come from lenders.... And they were appealing for donors!!

View attachment 495686
Turkey company signs $1.1bn TZ railway deal


GCR - News - Tanzania courts Turkey for its rail megaproject, casting doubt on China’s role
Magafuli also asked Erdogan for a Turkish loan to finance a 400km stretch of the track, Daily News reports, and received in return a pledge from Erdogan that Turkey’s finance minister would “work on it”.
The government of Tanzania has allocated $500m of its own money in its current budget to fund the scheme.






Kwasasa mmetoa $500 pekeyake, Dili mliyopiga na campuni ya turkey ni ya $1.2B, Construction yenyewe inatarajiwa kuchukua Miezi 30 au mwaka mmoja na nusu, Sasa we niambie kutoka sasa hadi juni mwaka ujao ambapo bajeti itasomwa tena, mnatarajia watatumia chini ya $500 kweli? ela hamtabaki mkisongeza deadline ya completion?

Tena isitoshe hizo pesa zengine kama bado mnapanga kulipia SGR zitatoka kwa Eurobond, Eurobond bado ni loan ya aina nyengine ambayo ukipewa unaeza itumia kwa lolote lile utakalo bila condition..


Tanzania's turn to Turkey for SGR funds leaves China in limbo
Tanzania's turn to Turkey for SGR funds leaves China in limbo
Jan 30, 2017
A railway line that once linked Kenya’s coast to Tanzania is no longer in use. Tanzania will use proceeds from a Eurobond and concessional loans to fund its standard gauge line. PHOTO | FILE Tanzania is looking at using proceeds from its $700 million Eurobond and concessional loans to fund the construction of its standard gauge railway, making a big policy shift from its regional … (continue reading)

Kwahivyo mnaeza mnaruhusiwa kuandika mabango mkisema government funded, Lakini pale kwa wizara ya afya kuna recite inaokota interest polepole tu

We Fala unabisha nn humu ndani? Uchoko unakusumbua sio?

 

[blackmweusi]

Kingereza kibovu sana kama sizonje

Kibovu sawa, but the message is understood

 

[3rd man]

We Fala unabisha nn humu ndani? Uchoko unakusumbua sio?

acha povu fala wewe😀

 

[Edward Wanjala]

Wako wapi wale waliokuwa wakibweka na SGR yao kwenda Uganda?

 

[Edward Wanjala]

Tunnels are becoming deeper by day. SGR Kenya is a Reality

 

[Edward Wanjala]

First batch of Women SGR operators who went to train in China are back and they are already taking the beasts on!!

 

[Geza Ulole]

Wako wapi wale waliokuwa wakibweka na SGR yao kwenda Uganda?
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mkisaini the contract ya Uganda SGR ndo nitawaelewa

 

[Edward Wanjala]

mkisaini the contract ya Uganda SGR ndo nitawaelewa

Was signed years ago, hata picha iliyopo kwenye gazeti hilo la Uganda la leo, ipo picha ya hiyo signing

 

[Geza Ulole]

Was signed years ago, hata picha iliyopo kwenye gazeti hilo la Uganda la leo, ipo picha ya hiyo signing

juzi mlienda China ku-finalise the deal Uganda refused to attend

 

[Zuwenna]

Tanzania imeanza kuwachoma watu kumoyo

 

[3rd man]

juzi mlienda China ku-finalise the deal Uganda refused to attend

so Uganda wataungana na Sgr yenu hewa ya km 180😀

 

[Zuwenna]

so Uganda wataungana na Sgr yenu hewa ya km 180😀

Uganda wataungana na ile yawachina
walio wapiga

 

[M-mbabe]

Acha majungu. The quality of anything is not always determined by it price.

granted mkuu.
however, in the absence of any other relevantly related data, price could be a good pointer mkuu.

 

[KENPAULITE]

Uganda wataungana na ile yawachina
walio wapiga

I can bet you something, hizi trains za east Africa are supposed to be more of freight than passengers, mkijenga yenu ikuwe more of passengers hamna bahati

 

[CLES B]

Kingereza kibovu sana kama sizonje

Sio lugha yetu ..polepole tutafika ,asiogope makosa ni sehemu ya kujua.