Tatizo si Kikwete na uelewa wake bali chuo kikuu alichosoma!

Papa D said:

Katika mchanganuo wako zingatia haya:-
Nimesema wanakaririshwa na siyo kukuza uelewa wao. hii ni hata katika tasnia unayojaribu kusema [coordination-uratibu] mwisho wake wanaishia kuwa wana nadharia
Mlinganisho ninaozungumzia ni ule wa similar level of award [i.e chukua aliyemaliza digrii ya sheria mlimani na course ile ile pale mzumbe]
Bado utakuwa haiko sahihi kumtetea JK au Pinda kutokana na kwamba mtu aliye-elimishwa kwa kukaririshwa hawezi kusahau basics tofauti na mtu aliyekaririshwa. Hii nadharia huenda ikawa ngumu kuielewa mpaka ukikutana na watu wa aina hiyo wakifanya kazi katika eneo moja. you will see the difference between he who thinks and he who claims!!

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Tofautisha kazi ambazo zinatumia utashi wa siasa na agenda ambayo inatekelezwa chama na kazi zinazofuata utalaam wa mtu. Pinda na wengine wanafwata matakwa ya CCM, na inafika wakati elimu zao wanaweka pembeni.Ukumbuke Pinda hafanyi kazi za Sheria pale CCM anafanya kazi za Kisiasa.So akifanya madudu zilalamikie sera na agenda za CCM wala sio elimu yake. Kumbuka elimu inaweza kutumika vizuri au vibaya, hata kuweza kudanganya mpaka watu wenye akili zao wakakuamini ni utalaam.

KIla taasisi ya elimu hususani elimu ya juu inakuwa na vilaza wake. Hivyo ni mtizamo finyu kusema chanzo cha matatizo ya watz ni viongozi wengi kusoma UDSM. Kuna viongozi wengi ambao wamesoma nje ya nchi lakini still hawana mchango wowote katika maendeleo ya taifa letu na jamii zinazowazunguka. Na walitoka na GPA nzuri kabisa. Matatizo ya nchi yetu ni ya kimfumo zaidi mfumo uliopo umeoza toka chini kwa watendaji wa vijiji hadi serikali kuu, huku katiba ya nchi ikiubeba.

Mr.Professional said:

KIla taasisi ya elimu hususani elimu ya juu inakuwa na vilaza wake. Hivyo ni mtizamo finyu kusema chanzo cha matatizo ya watz ni viongozi wengi kusoma UDSM. Kuna viongozi wengi ambao wamesoma nje ya nchi lakini still hawana mchango wowote katika maendeleo ya taifa letu na jamii zinazowazunguka. Na walitoka na GPA nzuri kabisa. Matatizo ya nchi yetu ni ya kimfumo zaidi mfumo uliopo umeoza toka chini kwa watendaji wa vijiji hadi serikali kuu, huku katiba ya nchi ikiubeba.

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Kama Andrew Chenge vile kasoma Havard University angalia alivyo mtendaji bora

ndugu hakuna TCU wala nini kuhoji ubora wa udsm against mzumbe au vinginevyo.mimi ni T96 wa udsm. nakumbuka wale wote wenye akili timamu walijiunga UDSM waliotoswa ndiyo wakenda vyuo vingine.why

jomse said:

utumbo mtupu.mbona wanaodisco udsm wanaenda kusoma ditna mzumbe na kumaliza. .

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Mkuu.., jamaa anachosema ni kwamba UDSM wanafundishwa kukalili sana na sio kuelewa, so kwa dizaini hiyo wale ambao hawawezi kukalili lazima watashindwa na kwenda sehemu ambako watajifunza kuelewa.

Gang Chomba said:

Mtoa mada acha kuandika ushuzi.
Fahamu kuwa mzumbe, DIT, IFM, CBE, VETA huko kuna wanafunzi.

Ila UDSM kuna wasomi.

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Wasomi?? mkuu hebu kuwa serious, wasomi au waandamanaji? kila kukicha migomo, mara wamesimamishwa chuo..??
Pia kukosa UDSM na kwenda chuo kingine ndo haimaanishi kuwa UDSM ndo wanatoa elimu bora, jst ni kwamba UDSM most of waalimu hawafundishi kuelewa, ila ni kukomoa. Baba yangu mkubwa ni Dakta hapo UDSM n av watched th situation thru yeye..,

Eti wasomi kuliko vyuo vingine.., Heshima mbele mkuu:bump::bump:

Ng'wanangwa said:

redet

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hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! u mtu upo funny sana...))

Rafiki yetu Nungwi alihamia wapi?

SAUT je?

Suala si kuchukua cream. Unatoa NINI? Unachukua cream unatoa togwa. Wanafunzi wanasikiliza lecture wamesimama madirishani. Lecturer anasahihisha paper 3000 na ni essay. Does it matter whether your inputs were cream? Mnachukua wanafunzi vichwa then mnawajaza utumbo badala ya kuwafundisha. Mzumbe wana wanafunzi wachache hence you don't need to do research to see that they are better at least compared to UD. UD imegeuka voda faster kama shule za kata.

Ng'wanangwa said:

mkuu dizaini wewe muimba taarabu eeh?

mbona signature yako imekaa kimipasho-mipasho tu?

by the way, UDSM kinachukua siagi (cream). ukisikia mtu analalama ama anasagia UDSM ujue ama aliliwa kichwa ama alifeli form 6.

(lakini kweli UDSM kuna vilaza. mfano Bansen Burnner)

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Ni sawa nakusema mwanangu ana akili sana atasoma primary za serikali. Mpeleke alafu akimaliza la saba kamlinganishe na aliyesoma tusiime. AAah. What matters si inputs ni process ndo ina determine outputs.

Mi nakushauri tuu ndugu yangu...
Ukitaka kwenda kusoma UDSM Home of the Braves kesha saana form six au huko diploma kisha utapata..
Pia ukitaka Mzumbe au DIT wee lala tuu halafu katest nature yako kama utapata zilizobakia kule mwishoni basi watakufikiria huku... Pia kama una hela wala usihangaike njoo pale mwenge karibu na mti nakutengenezea cheti utasoma Mzumbe bila shida mpaka umalize... UDSM wataku-disko kaa mwenzako JK kaaambulia running Mate GPA...

Halafu pia nitakupa maelekezo ya chuo cha kata nafasi ziko wazi... pale nako mpaka degree hata kama huwezi andika spelling nzuri kama hiyo thread yako..

Bye MC usilete kivuli ni heri ukemee mabaya na usifie mazuri:clap2:

Na kwa nini wahitimu wa UD wanakimblia Mzumbe kusoma masters? Wakikosa nafasi ndo wanenda UD? Wameshtuka. Tukubali kukosolewa kwa ajili ya kuboresha elimu ya Tanzania kwa manufaa yetu na vizazi vijavyo. Suala la elimu si ushabiki wa simba na yanga wala CCM na CHADEMA. Vyuo vyote Mzumbe na UD haviko kwenye level ila wanazidiana kunuka. I am luck I got my masters and now PhD abroad but how many will have this chance. Turekebishe elimu yetu jamani.

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Du naona kuna ka ukweli fulani, wengi wa jamaa wanotuka hapo huwa hawajaiva sawa sawa. Nimefanya kazi na jamaa wa UDSM wengine na Masters zao, lkn application ya taaluma zao huwa ngumu. Graduate wengine wa UDSM Wengine nimesoma nao Masters pala SUA, kweli ni Tia maji tia maji. Tena kwa taaluma walizo somea. Hata hivyo sitaki kuamini kuwa tatizo ni chuo bali watu kuto jibidisha zaidi ya kukalili formula za vitabuni.

Kuna vilaza Mzumbe na kuna vilaza UDSM, kuna div one Form 6 kote...suala la chuo silioni mimi! Na kuna werevu kote...nimesoma vyuo vyote hivyo, na Marekani pia...sijaelewa suala la walimu linaingiaje..what about student factor?

Papa D said:

Ukweli ni kwamba wahitimu wengi wa Chuo kikuu cha Dar es salaam ni vilaza/wababaishaji [Si kikwete tu!]. Hii inatokana na jinsi wanavyofundishwa [wanakaririshwa na si kueleweshwa] watu wa aina hiyo huishia kuwa wenye nadharia nyingi kuliko utendaji. Mwisho wa safari huwa walalamishi wazuri sana. Chanzo kikuu cha kutoa vilaza ni kwamba Walimu/professors wa mlimani wamejaa wivu na husda!!!

Mwanafunzi aliyehitimu Mzumbe au DIT ni bora kuliko mhitimu wa Mlimani!! POLENI SANA WAHITIMU WA MLIMANI!!

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Kumbe wewe uelewa na uchambuzi wako wa mambo ni mdogo ni mdogo zaidi ya mara 100000000000000000000000 ya JK. Wewe umesahau vichwa vingi unavyovijua vimetokea Mlimani?umesahau wapiganaji km kina Sinde Warioba, Ulimwengu, Zitto nk ni zao la UDSM. Mwisho wa siku wewe ndio kilaza wa kutupwa, huwezi kulinganisha UDSM na chuo chochote cha kishenzi Tz. Ukweli utabaki kuwa hivyo.Yaani kweli umeshindwa kujadili mambo ya msingi unafananisha Udsm na ile ODM Mzumbe? kweli wewe ni miongoni mwa vilaza katika Tz hii.

Wabongo bana.....pumba tupu.....huo u best wa vyuo mbona hatuuoni kwenye utendaji?

Wakati fulani huko nyuma elimu ya Mzumbe vs chuo kikuu-udsm ilipokuwa hot issue kama mtakumbuka Mwl JK wa kweli, Julius Kambarage Nyerere alilitolea ufafanuzi .
Kwa ufupi alisema kuwa graduates wa Mzumbe walikuwa wanatayarishwa kuwa mameneja lakini graduates wa UDSM, walikuwa wanatayarishwa kuwa wakurugenzi.
Sasa chekecha mwenyewe,kuna kilaza kati ya hao? Kama yupo ni nani?!!!

nyumba kubwa said:

Ni sawa nakusema mwanangu ana akili sana atasoma primary za serikali. Mpeleke alafu akimaliza la saba kamlinganishe na aliyesoma tusiime. AAah. What matters si inputs ni process ndo ina determine outputs.

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NK,
You have to differentiate between teaching and lecturing. Katika vyuo wanatoa lecture, hata kukiwa na wanachuo 10,000. Kwa wenzetu kuna online lecturing, na wanafunzi wanaendelea kuwa bora. Usilete mifano yako ya nursery na primary. Ua unataka UD waanze kufundisha (teaching) kama vyuo vingine na siyo kutoa lecture? Mwisho utataka nao waanze kutoa tution kama vyuo vingine?

Nadhani aliyeanzisha hii mada ana uelewa finyu sana wa elimu, atoe data, yeye anakuja na blaa blaaa bila ya data. Basi nami nisema Havard University ni vilaza kwani Chenge alisoma huko, afadhali ya Learn It pale Sinza. Je argument yangu itakuwa na mshiko au kufurahisha GT?

Papa D, kufeli kidato cha nne siyo mwisho wa maisha, wee rudia tu kama private candidate unaweza ukapata credit.