Tension in Mombasa as Al-Shabaab suspect Rogo killed

[BADILI TABIA]

acha tu nipite

 

[Nyenyere]

Naanza kupata hisia kuna uwezekano underground network kama hiyo ina operate TZ pia. Let's brace ourselves.

 

[Zimmermann]

An unknown number of Kenyan Muslims have crossed the border to fight alongside the Shabaab.

Yaani unapigana na ndugu zako kwa sababu ya dini ya kuletewa? Hawa jamaa kweli ni mwili mmoja.

 

[Webabu]

Udhaifu wako na wengine ni kujawa na papara na kukosa kusoma historia na kufahamu UKWELI. Ndiposa masheikh walio na agenda tofauti kando na uislamu halisi, huweza kwa urahisi potosha na kudanganya baadhi ya waislamu aina yenu. Mwenzagu, kando na mafunzo ya Dini, tafuta kujua ukweli. Usiwe kama mbuzi katika methali fulani asiyefahamu anaongozwa kichinjioni. Historia ya marekani na kujengwa kwa misingi yake sote tunafahamu. Ajabu siku hizi watu wanapindisha historia kama wanavyofanyia UKWELI kuweza kuridhisha na kutukuza doctrine na pia nafsi zao na si kwa lengo la kujielimisha na ndio hawa huanguka kwenye mitego ya kupotoshwa. KUMBUKA NI UKWELI UTAKUWEKA HURU KUTOKA UPOTOVU. " AMIN AMIN NAKWAMBIA, YULE ALIYE NA MWANAWE YUKO HURU".Misingi Marekani ya karne ya kumi na nane ilianza kwa uhuru wa kuabudu freedom of worship na civil liberties na sio REVOLUTION kama anavosema Assange lakini Kuna IMPERIAL WARS zilizotokea baina ya france na UK karne ya kumi na nane, hilo sipingi. Tena ukitarajia kama ulivonena kuwa itakuwa shida siku zote, wewe na wenzako ndio wataendelea kusaga meno na hizo religious provocations.

Kama agenda za wenzako wa jadi HOLDEN ROBERTO NA HUEY .P. NEWTON zilikuwa za haki mbona hawakufua dafu na sielewi kwa nini bado umesalia kwenye propaganda Osama hakuchinjwa na picha ziko kwenye mtandao. Huwa sipendi kutumia propaganda kupigana na propaganda, na pengine hiyo ndio tofauti kati yako na yangu. Sipendi pia kujihusisha katika papara au tu jazba tupu ingawa kuna baadhi ya watu JF wanapenda hayo. Ukitaka kunilainisha mimi, usifanye tu kwa papara, jaribu jinsi iwezekanavyo kunilainisha kwa vidokezo tena za kweli na ndio thamana yako itadhihirika. Ukijaribu kuondolea Al shabaab lawama kuwa hawana doa, inadhirisha UMOJA wako, na imani yao ndio wao wakitenda maouvu ni sawa mbele ya macho ya ulimwengu...Wanaua kwa jina la mungu!!

Mwisho nikimalizia, Assange (Austrian) ni mtumwa wa kuripoti habari ili apate marupurupu na vipaji kutoka wafidhili mbali mbali ulimwenguni, na sehemu zingine, kwa hivyo integrity ya kuripoti kwake inahujumu mkazo wa upeperushaji wa habari halisi. Habari zinazohusisha assumptions au dhana/investigative journalism hazitiliwi maanani sababu kuu ikiwa hiyo niliotaja hapo juu. Mbona anaomba asylum kila mara akishapeperusha propaganda, kama ni mtu shirika lake lina corporate values?! Kumbuka wakati huu watu wanatafuta kila njia kupata umaarufu, na namna ya kula, Assange akiwa moja wao.

Ni hayo tu.....

Inawezekana wewe ni mmoja wa waandishi wa ule mtandao wa propaganda wa sabah online ili kuitetea Amerika kwa waswahili lakini hakuna kitu.

Alshabaab nimekuambia hakuna hao watu,Somalia kuna waislamu maskini waliojaa njaa ambao ndio wanaopigana kwa taabu na mataifa makubwa duniani kote na mataifa yote ya Afrika mashariki.Hawa waliotengeneza alshabaab ndiio wanaojua uongozi wao ukoje na nani wampatie.Ikiwa hujui Alshabaab wanaua kwa jina la Mungu yupi itakuwa unajua jina la Mungu anayeuwa wasomali na wakenya kama sheikh Aboud.
Assange hayuko peke yake.Unamkumbuka mbunge wa Uiengereza David Reeds na Galloway na mwenzao aliyeuliwa kama Aboud Rogo wote wakipinga vita visivyokuwa vya haki.Desmond Tutu unamjua?.Wewe mwandishi wa sabahonline hebu niambie unamuonaje anapotaka Bush na Blair washtakiwe kwa vita ya Iraq.Kwanini Kibaki na Raila wasishtakiwe kwa kuingiza Kenya kwenye vita ya mabeberu ya kutawala waislamu na kuhodhi mali zao kama hii ya Somalia.Vita ambavyo vinapelekea watu wao kuuliwa kwa mabomu na risasi.
Picha ipi unajua ndio ya Osama aliyeuliwa na Obama?.Ni uyo wa shoto wa kulia?.Hapo walikosea mahesabu kama walivyokosea sheih Rogo wakidhani kwa kufa yeye ndio na vita itafanikiwa.

 

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Inawezekana wewe ni mmoja wa waandishi wa ule mtandao wa propaganda wa sabah online ili kuitetea Amerika kwa waswahili lakini hakuna kitu.

Alshabaab nimekuambia hakuna hao watu,Somalia kuna waislamu maskini waliojaa njaa ambao ndio wanaopigana kwa taabu na mataifa makubwa duniani kote na mataifa yote ya Afrika mashariki.Hawa waliotengeneza alshabaab ndiio wanaojua uongozi wao ukoje na nani wampatie.Ikiwa hujui Alshabaab wanaua kwa jina la Mungu yupi itakuwa unajua jina la Mungu anayeuwa wasomali na wakenya kama sheikh Aboud.
Assange hayuko peke yake.Unamkumbuka mbunge wa Uiengereza David Reeds na Galloway na mwenzao aliyeuliwa kama Aboud Rogo wote wakipinga vita visivyokuwa vya haki.Desmond Tutu unamjua?.Wewe mwandishi wa sabahonline hebu niambie unamuonaje anapotaka Bush na Blair washtakiwe kwa vita ya Iraq.Kwanini Kibaki na Raila wasishtakiwe kwa kuingiza Kenya kwenye vita ya mabeberu ya kutawala waislamu na kuhodhi mali zao kama hii ya Somalia.Vita ambavyo vinapelekea watu wao kuuliwa kwa mabomu na risasi.
Picha ipi unajua ndio ya Osama aliyeuliwa na Obama?.Ni uyo wa shoto wa kulia?.Hapo walikosea mahesabu kama walivyokosea sheih Rogo wakidhani kwa kufa yeye ndio na vita itafanikiwa.

till you set foot to somalia dont give me that talk, do you know how many KDF troops were abducted in somalia before the incursion? How emboldened somali alshabaab had become to cause Mayhem in Mandera, attack GSU camps in LIBOI, attack AP positions when they feel like cause of a so tolerant Kenya. Not anymore! NEWSFLASH: Somali as a state has so much of unlicenced armour that it will take her nearly a decade to pacify her land. The very weapons that influx the Kenyanna region with illegal arms.
To serious talk, how do u dispute existence of alshabaab? You should be deployed to the frontlines just for an hour youl humble up, nowadays ladies just as gentlemen have an equal opportunity & passion for the same. U wont be different.
Aboud Rogo is on clip calling for Jihad against Kenyans, supporting alshabaab network in Kenya and somalia.....not in one, but several clips. Several agencies can corroborate this including the UN, FBI not to mention our very own NSIS. He got what he was preaching anyway, he had it coming on himself Who is OSAMA? Self proclaimed terrorist who kills a fellow man in the name of ALLAH! Aje Ami? These elements have no business being among peace loving and law abiding nationals.

 

[Kabaridi]

till you set foot to somalia dont give me that talk, do you know how many KDF troops were abducted in somalia before the incursion? How emboldened somali alshabaab had become to cause Mayhem in Mandera, attack GSU camps in LIBOI, attack AP positions when they feel like cause of a so tolerant Kenya. Not anymore! NEWSFLASH: Somali as a state has so much of unlicenced armour that it will take her nearly a decade to pacify her land. The very weapons that influx the Kenyanna region with illegal arms.
To serious talk, how do u dispute existence of alshabaab? You should be deployed to the frontlines just for an hour youl humble up, nowadays ladies just as gentlemen have an equal opportunity & passion for the same. U wont be different.
Aboud Rogo is on clip calling for Jihad against Kenyans, supporting alshabaab network in Kenya and somalia.....not in one, but several clips. Several agencies can corroborate this including the UN, FBI not to mention our very own NSIS. He got what he was preaching anyway, he had it coming on himself Who is OSAMA? Self proclaimed terrorist who kills a fellow man in the name of ALLAH! Aje Ami? These elements have no business being among peace loving and law abiding nationals.

Yeap mate congrats! tell them... My conclusion all the time is those that only understand the language of violence and death need to be communicated to along those lines. This chap keeps day dreaming about OSAMA being alive, yet his horrendus acts has not brought any "salvation" to the extremeist cause. Instead it has caused more suffering to humanity. and one is left wondering if this is what the Qu'Ran advocates for. Look at Afghanistan, syria, after chaos now hat next.?

 

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Yeap mate congrats! tell them... My conclusion all the time is those that only understand the language of violence and death need to be communicated to along those lines. This chap keeps day dreaming about OSAMA being alive, yet his horrendus acts has not brought any "salvation" to the extremeist cause. Instead it has caused more suffering to humanity. and one is left wondering if this is what the Qu'Ran advocates for. Look at Afghanistan, syria, after chaos now hat next.?

i wonder about the same mate.

 

[Webabu]

till you set foot to somalia dont give me that talk, do you know how many KDF troops were abducted in somalia before the incursion? How emboldened somali alshabaab had become to cause Mayhem in Mandera, attack GSU camps in LIBOI, attack AP positions when they feel like cause of a so tolerant Kenya. Not anymore! .

And how many of them can you tell us?.I believe before you choose the right Osama corpse photo then you can't know who killed those KDF troops and the purpose of abductions.
Those Somalis have been with us ever since why had they not killed us until America finished Iraq buiseness;i.e putting their puppets in power.

 

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And how many of them can you tell us?.I believe before you choose the right Osama corpse photo then you can't know who killed those KDF troops and the purpose of abductions.
Those Somalis have been with us ever since why had they not killed us until America finished Iraq buiseness;i.e putting their puppets in power.

huh!!!! What has my desk got to do with Osama? Am not enlisted with the Navy seals or American intelgensia ot otherwise inclined to comment on AMERICAN OPERATIONS. Get a life!
MY CONCERN IS KENYA!
Alshabaab had terrorised residents of Garrisa, Mandera and neighbouring border towns for so long. At one point they even messed with the GSU camp in LIBOI, you can summarise what happened next. Swift mop up exercise from LIBOI To DEEP SOMALIA TERRITORY
If you are telling me its ok for an armed militia to attempt over run a recce police unit camp (means the militia were in hundreds), then u certainly are ailing from selective blindness.
The KDF personelle abducted by the said somali militant group were ambushed while on a regular border patrol mission. That was after the Kenya border was closed due to the deteriorating state of security at the said areas. Some successfully escaped the attack to give the tale of which inspired the military to adopt a security policy towards somalia, the abducted are classified as MIA.
How does a militia cross over to Mandera & Garrisa, Kenya, shoot a few businessmen, get there loot and head back to somalia while shooting in air and you still stand up for them. What kind of savage are you?
How many MSF doctors have been abducted pre ''the Kenyan invasion'', forgetting they were treating the likes of you; how many Italian nuns have fallen have fallen prey for the same while on humanitarian missions?
How long will the militia supply Kenya with an influx of unlicenced arms?
How long will we import terror cause of an insecure neighbour?
How long will Kenya have the burden of hosting Somali refugees because of their senseless clan wars?
Lastly, are you aware SHARIA LAW was being imposed by Alshabaab on Kenyans living on border regions. Kenya is a cosmopolitan state, they harrassed the innocent too, muslim and non muslim. Thats how much Alshabaab had become menacing to Kenya. You dont just close a border overnight. There must be a systematic chain of events. ROGO their field marshal/recruit facilitator in Kenya is certainly talking different now.
How long would we pay ransoms for sailors abducted, ships, goods, forgetting safeguarding our intl waters without acting which is our sole outlet route!
How long would we watch as our tourism fell to the hands of alshabaab/a mere militant?
You talk of a peaceful coexistence, certainly alshabaab knew nothing of the same!!!

 

[Webabu]

huh!!!! What has my desk got to do with Osama? Am not enlisted with the Navy seals or American intelgensia ot otherwise inclined to comment on AMERICAN OPERATIONS. Get a life!
MY CONCERN IS KENYA!
Alshabaab had terrorised residents of Garrisa, Mandera and neighbouring border towns for so long. At one point they even messed with the GSU camp in LIBOI, you can summarise what happened next. Swift mop up exercise from LIBOI To DEEP SOMALIA TERRITORY
If you are telling me its ok for an armed militia to attempt over run a recce police unit camp (means the militia were in hundreds), then u certainly are ailing from selective blindness.
The KDF personelle abducted by the said somali militant group were ambushed while on a regular border patrol mission. That was after the Kenya border was closed due to the deteriorating state of security at the said areas. Some successfully escaped the attack to give the tale of which inspired the military to adopt a security policy towards somalia, the abducted are classified as MIA.
How does a militia cross over to Mandera & Garrisa, Kenya, shoot a few businessmen, get there loot and head back to somalia while shooting in air and you still stand up for them. What kind of savage are you?
How many MSF doctors have been abducted pre ''the Kenyan invasion'', forgetting they were treating the likes of you; how many Italian nuns have fallen have fallen prey for the same while on humanitarian missions?
How long will the militia supply Kenya with an influx of unlicenced arms?
How long will we import terror cause of an insecure neighbour?
How long will Kenya have the burden of hosting Somali refugees because of their senseless clan wars?
Lastly, are you aware SHARIA LAW was being imposed by Alshabaab on Kenyans living on border regions. Kenya is a cosmopolitan state, they harrassed the innocent too, muslim and non muslim. Thats how much Alshabaab had become menacing to Kenya. You dont just close a border overnight. There must be a systematic chain of events. ROGO their field marshal/recruit facilitator in Kenya is certainly talking different now.
How long would we pay ransoms for sailors abducted, ships, goods, forgetting safeguarding our intl waters without acting which is our sole outlet route!
How long would we watch as our tourism fell to the hands of alshabaab/a mere militant?
You talk of a peaceful coexistence, certainly alshabaab knew nothing of the same!!!

Please read this article by Onyango about Kikambala bombing
ugnet_: What Does The Kikambala Tragedy Have to do with Dec.27th?

Mulindwa Edward
Thu, 05 Dec 2002 04:34:32 -0800


[TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"] From: Onyango Oloo
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Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 5:53 AM
Subject: [Mwananchi] What Does The Kikambala Tragedy Have to do with Dec.27th?



What Does the Kikambala Tragedy Have to do with Dec.27th?

A Digital Essay by Onyango Oloo


1.0. An Interesting Preview

My initial shock about the Kikambala deadly blast and the near mishap
at Port Reitz has given way to profound befuddlement.

There are so many things that do not make sense:

1. A terrorist attack (presumably carried out by Islamic
fundamentalists) taking place on the outskirts of a predominantly
Muslim town during the holy month of Ramadhan.

2. A missile that just grazes an Israeli charter plane.

3. A light aircraft that disappears from the news headlines after the
first day of reporting.

4. A three star hotel razed to the ground with lots of miraculous
survivors.
5. A brazen, presumably bold attack on an Israeli owned hotel
catering exclusively to Israelis months after Kenyan, Israeli,
Australian, German, British and American intelligence agencies were
given SPECIFIC ADVANCE WARNINGS about the possibility of this very
attack in this very city by these very Al-Qaeda suspects.
6. More than 24 hours elapse before the Kenyan head of state visits
the scene of the atrocity.
7. A joint military operation between the US and Kenya- Operation
Edged Mallet goes on as if nothing had happened.
8. President Moi leaves for Europe and North America on schedule to
discuss, on schedule the need to intensify the war on terrorism in
East Africa.
9. Conveniently a joint US military exercise with Djibouti wraps up
right around the time that Bush in Washington and Sharon in Tel Aviv
are officially fingering Somali based Al-Qaeda operatives as the
culprits behind the terrorist attacks.
10. As if on cue, Al-Qaeda comes forward to claim responsibility. And
now everybody forgets the previously unheard of Lebanese based group-
"Army of Palestine".


I am still scratching my head……

Meanwhile, in a totally unrelated incident, the leading Presidential
candidate just happens to escape a nasty road accident.

As Arsenio Hall used to say, these are things that make you go…..


2.0. Could They Have Looked The Other Way?

A couple of weeks ago, I pondered the following possibility in an
essay:

"……Kenyans should watch out for this sinister THIRD FORCE, which I
believe will STOP AT NOTHING to ensure that the KANU old guard RETAIN
DIRECT POLITICAL POWER.

If KANU can not rig itself back to power or outwit/infiltrate NARC to
retain DIRECT political power, I see them resorting to desperate
measures.

Some of these desperate measures may include plunging the country
into chaos and then using an excuse to declare a state of emergency
and the imposition of some form of military rule.……"

At that time, many people thought that it was bit of an alarmist leap
in the dark, especially the bit where I speculated about an Uhuru
Kenyatta assassination.

Well, now I am thinking that my instincts were right, but thinking of
the wrong actors.

I had thought that these desperate measures would come from internal,
trained militias with a bloody resume of unleashing vicious and
sudden violence right around election time.

I did not consider another chilling possibility:

The likelihood of Moi being in cahoots with those bloodthirsty hawks
in the Bush cabinet and the war criminals around Ariel Sharon.

Like always, I am going to be bold, controversial and plain out there
with this line of reasoning-its open to challenge of course:-

How about:

- If it was true that the Kenyan authorities and their Israeli and
American counterparts knew ahead of time about the Kikambala
terrorist plot?
- If Moi, Sharon and Bush agreed that this terrorist attack should
take place?
- If the shock and anger of the bombing would reap short term and
long term benefits for the above three?
- If the Israelis and the Americans have infiltrated the Al-Qaeda
cells in East Africa and want to use them to pursue US military
policies?

Think about it: if the above SPECULATION is true, then everything
else MAKES SENSE you see.

Why?

The Kenyans and their Western counterparts allowed those attacks to
happen because they would all benefit. It would give Moi a bargaining
chip when he met Blair and Bush, posing as the elder statesman with
the most experience in combating terrorism and promoting western
interests in Kenya in contrast to the "novices" waiting in the wings.
Remember that Uhuru Kenyatta has an insider's knowledge of the
tourism sector, receives the regular security briefings etc. The
Israelis have felt isolated in their attacks on the Palestinians and
have been anxious to link their campaign to the American war on
terrorism. Kikambala was definitely God sent, in their view. The
Americans, fighting charges that they are not doing enough to crush
Al-Qaeda can now go ahead with plans of invading Somalia (where there
is talk of untapped oil reserves).

But I hear you asking:

Wait a minute Oloo. Al-Qaeda are the sworn enemies of the Americans.
How could they plan anything together?

To which I respond with my own question:

Is that right? Is that true?

It seems to me that Al Qaeda and the Americans really need each other
in a macabre way.

Al-Qaeda needs an image of the Great Satan to justify its inhuman
atrocities.

And for the Americans, Al-Qaeda has been the savior of the Bush
presidency and one of the main factors behind the resurgence of the
Republican Party.

As a matter of historical fact, Al-Qaeda was created by the CIA, an
agency that Bush Senior once headed.

See for instance:

http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/pk06.html http://csf.colorado.edu/forums/pfvs/2002III/msg00877.html Secrets of September 11 by Thomas Powers | The New York Review of Books


As late as 2001, one of Osama Bin Laden's brothers was President
Bush's business partner. Nobody talks about that.

Again, take a peek at this link:

americanfreedomnews.com - american news Resources and Information. This website is for sale!

And these two as well:

Meet The Carlyle Group - Former World Leaders and Washington Insiders Make Billions from the War on Terrorism Carlyle Group (Bush, Sr. Etc) Profits Increasing From Afghan War


And how about the Israelis? Surely no one can accuse them of being
cozy with suspected Islamic militants.

Well, my friend, guess again. How many people know that it was the
Israelis who created Hamas, the outfit that is giving them so much
grief these days? Don't believe me? That's OK. Do your own research.
Start for instance with this article:

http://www.guerrillanews.com/war_on_terrorism/doc515.html

And how does all this relate back to Kenya?

In several ways.

Go

Many of the top wigs in our country are deeply connected to the
Israelis.

Just a few examples:

President Moi's personal physician is an Israeli citizen who lives in
Israel. Moi has a lot of business deals with citizens of this Middle
East nation.

Biwott is up to his neck with business ties to the Israelis.

The Kenyan security forces, notably the secret police and the GSU are
trained, by among others, the Israelis.

In 1976 Kenya provided a safe passage and refueling facilities to the
Israelis during the Entebbe Raid.

Last year's successful operation to kidnap Kurdish leader Abdallah
Ocalan was carried out thanks to the cooperation of the Turks, the
Israelis, the Americans and their Kenyan counterparts.

Does anyone remember the 1980 bomb blast at the Norfolk hotel- owned
by the Block family? Was anybody ever arrested? Who carried out that
attack on the Jewish owned establishment?

Let me emphasize one thing:

I DO NOT, repeat I DO NOT believe in hoary conspiracy theories. I DO
NOT subscribe to the infantile and outlandish ANTI-SEMITIC concept of
a creepy Zionist plot to take over the world.

What I am doing in this essay is present for discussion the very real
possibility that the Kenyans, the Israelis and the Americans could
have purposely chosen to look the other way when the bomb blast
happened in order to solidify their respective positions.

And I am saying that there is a distinct possibility that I could be
wrong.

The only way to establish the truth about the Kikambala tragedy is to
carry out an independent investigation in which the major suspects in
a possible cover up, namely the Kenyans, the Israelis and the
Americans are NOT LEADING THE INVESTIGATION.

Now we know that is not going to happen.

And that is why, we must put these questions forward for people to
think about, debate over, consider or reject after pondering all the
possibilities.


3.0. How Could Moi, Uhuru and KANU Benefit from Kikambala?

As I write these lines Bush is preparing to meet with Moi and Zenawi.
In fact the actual news wires were telling me this just a few minutes
ago (I am writing this a little before four thirty in the morning on
December the 5th):

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20021205_168.html

What are they going to be talking about?

Obviously Bush wants to talk about the War on Terrorism and what
Kenya can contribute to this global effort. Now, I am not sure if Moi
is going to be seated or on his knees, but I am pretty sure, he is
going to ask Bush a simple question:

"What's in it for me, George? Why should I help you? Some of your
State Department guys met with Raila just the other day. And let's
face it Mr. Bush, I don't think you care for me very much. You know
we are in a real danger of losing this election to these NARC guys
you have been funding openly. Why don't you get your ambassador in
London to go to Kibaki's hospital bed? Isn't he the guy you really
want? Why ask me what I can do when you are doing your best to kick
me out? I don't care. I can go to one of my chateaus in southern
France, to a luxury spa in Haifa or an exotic hideout in Morocco with
one of my ndogo ndogos… sorry you don't know what that is…."

Dubya will probably look at Moi gravely and say something intelligent
like:

"Daniel, I believe we can work something out. Remember the jam
General Musharaff of Uzbekistan, sorry Pakistan was in? We helped him
out, you know. He won the election the other day. We can do something
for you too…."

`But George, how? Everybody is expecting me to rig the elections. I
am sure somebody is already blaming me for Kibaki's accident, as if I
am the one who gave that incompetent matatu driver the money to buy
his driver's license…"

"You'd be surprised about what America can do for her friends,
Daniel. Wait, I'll give Donald and Colin a call…"

Or words to that effect.

Moi and KANU could still genuinely win this election let us not
forget that. NARC contains the seeds of its own destruction. The
simmering rift between Wamalwa and Raila may blow over into the open.
The other day you saw all the candidates in Baringo Central,
including the indomitable Nakuru lawyer Juma Kiplenge throw in the
towel for Gideon Moi. How many KANU moles lurk in the NARC, Ford-
People, and Safina and SDP opposition parties? Only time will tell.

Was the road accident involving Kibaki an assassination attempt?
Well, we Kenyans like jumping to conclusions and so far there is
nothing to make us seriously believe that. But can we really rule out
the possibility of an attempt to take out Kibaki before December
27th? I wouldn't.

Like millions of my compatriots I believe that if the elections are
free and fair, NARC will probably register a landslide victory.

But will the elections be free and fair?

Can KANU be trusted?

Is Moi prepared to recede from centre-stage?

The answers to these questions will determine who is sworn in as the
country's third president in January 2003.


Onyango Oloo
Montreal

4:40 am, Eastern Standard Time
Thursday, December 5, 2002

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[Kabaridi]

Would you stop ami posting if your brain has reached its EOL and do not have anything constructive to post. From your initial posts you looked realistic, but now you seem challenged. You are accumulating too many starting points and posting articles which writers heads seem to have knocked off because of too much weed smoking or crack sniffing. if you do not believe in the supernatural, too bad. The Isreali aircraft survived because of a miracle.

 

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Ami, I think you come from a world of conspiracies and 2nd guessing. This is only possible in simulated rooms, pre-risk exposures, and what if's modalities!!!! In short what we call conspiracies.

What Kenya is experiencing are real threats. I have given you a timeline of recent events that advised the current deployment of KDF which are in ernest. NO CONSPIRACY. Onyango Oloo is a political analyst at best, with obvious political affiliation & passions to certain charters. Sieve thru; Be also advised that the report you are giving is of 2002 (PASSED WITH EVENTS).....and they have nothing to do with the real time threat matrix facing Kenya or otherwise what necessitated KDF deployment in Somalia. At then, (2002), Alshabaab were no threat to Kenya.

Dont give me more MOSSAD/CIA conspiracies, KDFs deployment was as a result of undermining Kenyas territorial integrity by alkebaab/alshytan. And i gave u a chain of events in ernest that inspired the same which u dont dispute.
When Uganda entered into Mogadishu, dynamics in somalia changed. The militant force had to survive and that was the nemesis of the Alshabaab disorder to Kenya. You witnessed kampala coach bombings. Getting to Uganda with Kenyans as conduit fatalities. It will be a folly to think KDF invasion was inspired by the west!!!!! Infact USA never supported KDF till late into the operation, sniffing possible victory for KDF.

We have vision 2030 to implement, READ the above reasons for KDFs deployment.....EVERYTHING IS IN BLACK AND WHITE!

 

[Webabu]

Would you stop ami posting if your brain has reached its EOL and do not have anything constructive to post. From your initial posts you looked realistic, but now you seem challenged. You are accumulating too many starting points and posting articles which writers heads seem to have knocked off because of too much weed smoking or crack sniffing. if you do not believe in the supernatural, too bad. The Isreali aircraft survived because of a miracle.

Do not bother of the accumulation of facts but the reality of what is written.Please challenge what was written in the document.
Your brains want us not to learn something from past events.That is not humanity and not how humans were created.Only cows and the family have to follow tthat trend.
Here I paste the Mossad document for you to challenge pointwise as that is the begining point where sheikh Rogo starte to be heard to the public.In case you cant do that stop posting your nonsense of KDF and Alshabaab.

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[TD="colspan: 54"] On 28 November it was reported that "al Qaeda" had blown up the Israeli Paradise Hotel at Kikambala Beach near Mombasa, and synchronously launched a missile attack on an Arkia Airlines Boeing 757, taking off from Mombasa Airport en-route for Tel Aviv with 264 Israeli passengers on board. There was wild media talk of outstanding Israeli bravery in the face of these horrifying Muslim atrocities, but in reality the entire "dual attack" was a lookalike invented by the Mossad, designed to deflect attention away growing anger in Indonesia about direct CIA and Mossad involvement in the 12 October bombing of Kuta Beach in Bali. More about this motive later in the report, but first let us use real-time and photographic evidence to prove this deliberate Israeli illusion.
The first proof that the Kikambala Beach operation was a covert Israeli sting, came less than an hour after the massive bomb blast, with a tame television anchorman in New York repeatedly asking a reporter at the Paradise hotel about "the other attack on the Israeli airliner taking off from Mombasa." The timing of these questions was impossible, because the pilots aboard the Arkia Airlines Boeing 757 had not reported any incident. Serving as proof of this critical omission, there is no record of any "Mayday" or "Pan" call on the Kenyan air traffic control tapes at any time on 28 November 2002. So now we know the New York media was deliberately telling us about a mid-air incident which never occurred.
Simultaneously at the Paradise Hotel, hordes of Israeli tourists were filmed sitting on top of their heavy suitcases more than 200 meters away from the building. Nearly every reader is conversant with hotel evacuation drills. You are told repeatedly that "human life is important, possessions are not". This priority never changes, with standard emergency instructions worldwide urging patrons to "Stay calm, check the room to ensure no-one is left, leave your belongings where they are, and walk briskly to your assembly point – do not run." Nowhere in the rules is there any instruction to risk the lives of your children and yourself, by slowly and laboriously dragging a fifty-pound suitcase more than two hundred meters towards the beach.
The tourists sitting calmly on their suitcases at the beach, is explained by the fact that the Paradise Hotel is a "turnkey" operation, one-hundred-percent owned by the Israelis and thus under their complete control. You cannot walk in off the street and book a room, because the entire hotel is reserved strictly for Israeli tourists, including a sizeable number of Mossad operatives on "Rest and Recuperation". This was a controlled operation from the start, with nearly all of the Israeli guests cleared away from the buildings before the charges were detonated.
Next, Mossad agents led the compliant Kenyan media to a spot just outside the Mombasa Airport perimeter fence, and showed journalists the "discarded launch tubes" of two shoulder-launched surface-to-air heat seeking missiles, allegedly fired at the Arkia Boeing 757 as it passed overhead at 500 feet. They were real launch tubes complete with pistol grips designed to fire the SA-7b "Strela" missile, but minus the heavy battery packs which the "Arab terrorists" inexplicably decided to run away with. Believe me, there is no way you can fire the Strela without its heavy battery pack. The launch tubes had also been resprayed brilliant sky-blue, a color which provides excellent contrast for media location and recording on Betamax video, but is absurd for operational use. The only colors the Strela is issued in from the factory, are camouflage khaki or olive drab.
The SA-7b Strela is an infra red heat seeker that locks onto hot engine exhaust gases, and will rush off at Mach 1.75 to kill any aircraft [without active magnesium flare protection] that flies within its slant range of 3 miles. Immediately after launch the equipment operator becomes irrelevant, with the missile doing the rest all by itself. Sure it sometimes has a bit of a problem with helicopters which deflect their hot engine gases up through the rotor blades, but the huge gaping red-hot engine orifices of a Boeing 757 at point blank range, are the Strela's ultimate wet dream.
If one of these rather phallic missiles had actually been fired at the Arkia 757 from the Mombasa runway overrun area, it would have automatically and immediately streaked inside one of the 757's irresistible orifices, and blown the entire engine pod off the wing with its powerful HE warhead. Two missiles would have blown off two engine pods, making the Boeing extremely difficult to control, to say the very least of it.

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[TD="colspan: 35"] Fortunately you do not have to take my word for this. Look very closely at the Strela launch tube photographs shown on this page. The launch and propellant charges of the Strela are very messy, and always leave a lot of dirty residue on the muzzle and exhaust pipe of the launcher after a missile has been fired. There is not the slightest trace of residue on either Strela launcher at Mombasa, proving conclusively that they were never used for live launches, and were thus placed in the grass solely as stage props to reinforce the Israeli myth.
No doubt a few avid television viewers might retort, "What about the Israeli captain of the Boeing? He said he saw two smoke trails from the missiles". Really? It would be more productive to focus on exactly what the captain told the media, and whether his statement could be even remotely correct. The captain's exact words were, "We saw two white stripes coming up from behind the airplane on the left side a bit above us." As you will see from the photo of the Arkia Boeing 757 on this page, the aircraft is not fitted with rear view mirrors or a tail warning radar. No pilot sitting on the flight deck of a Boeing 757 can see "behind" the aircraft because rearward vision is severely restricted. With the "stretched" version of the Boeing 757 they were flying, the Arkia pilots would consider themselves lucky if they could twist around far enough to see their own wings. Nor would they have done so at this entirely critical point in the flight.
The aircraft had just rotated off the hot runway at Mombasa with a full load of fuel and passengers, and was at its most vulnerable. Lose an engine at this point, which means half your total thrust on a twin-engine Boeing 757, and you need to be a very slick pilot to get the airplane back on the ground in one piece at all. So beyond question, both pilots had their eyes glued firmly to the instrument panel at the precise time the captain subsequently claimed, "We saw two white stripes coming up from behind the aircraft…" You decide whether or not the captain was telling the truth, bearing in mind that he also claimed he "felt a bump", inferring one of the "phantom" missiles had glanced off the airplane. On arrival at Ben Gurion airport in Palestine the airplane was checked for damage by television media, and not a single scratch or blemish was found on its immaculate paint work
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[TD="width: 684, colspan: 43"] At the basic subliminal level, you were supposed to acknowledge this "cowardly" attack by "al Qaeda" on "Israeli civilians" who were simply on holiday having a good time at "Kikambala Beach", where the blasts were caused by a "suicide bomber" and a "car bomb". You were repeatedly shown hundreds of feet of video film reinforcing this myth, with lots of waving palm trees, and distraught Jewish survivors sitting on the beach.
Surely the covert Kikambala operation subliminally reminds you of another "cowardly" attack by "al Qaeda" on "Australian civilians", who were simply on holiday having a good time at "Kuta Beach" in Bali on 12 October? It is remarkably similar in many ways, right down to the fine details of a "suicide bomber" and "car bomb" The entire operation was designed to [hopefully] prove that poor Israelis on holiday suffer as much as poor Australians do, at the "ruthless" hands of "al Qaeda" and/or the interchangeable "Jemaah Islamiyah".
Well, perhaps not exactly. More than one hundred Australians died at Kuta Beach, but only three Israelis died at Kikambala Beach. As if to make up for this inferior body count, you were told that "al Qaeda" had also fired two SA-7b "Strela" heat seeking missiles at an unarmed Israeli airliner. Poor brave Israelis, huh?
I am not callously ingoring the loss of life where local residents are concerned, it is simply a matter of not having accurate figures to use. To the best of my knowledge, approximately 100 Indonesians perished at Kuta Beach, while at least 15 Kenyans were killed at Kikambala Beach. Sadly perhaps, this heavy death toll will be regarded by the CIA and Mossad as irrelevant "collateral damage."
During the ten days immediately preceding the Kikambala operation, things had gone from bad to worse for American and Australian investigators trying to prove that "al Qaeda" and "Jemaah Islamiyah" were responsible for the Kuta Beach atrocity. On Monday 18 November, Indonesian Parliamentary Speaker Amien Rais said he questioned the validity of the police conclusion that "Amrozi" was the main perpetrator of the Bali bombings. Rais was supported by Deputy House Speaker A.M. Fatwa, who stated, "`My conscience says that he is not a key actor. I don't believe that Amrozi has the capability to make all kinds of the preparations for the bombings, like setting off a kind of micro nuclear bomb in Bali."
These pointed observations by two of the most powerful politicians in Indonesia caused a storm of discontent across the entire nation, with most Indonesians justifiably claiming that the CIA and Mossad were responsible for the outrage in Bali. Then events accelerated rapidly, with politicians from Jakarta personally visiting Kuta Beach. This was followed by the sudden recall of the police general in Bali, who for weeks prior to this had managed to produce endless "Muslim suspects" for the Americans and Australians, at the same staggering speed a conjurer might pull rabbits out of a hat. But just like the rabbits, the Muslim suspects were just clever illusions. And so it was that quite suddenly, with their tame police general removed from the island and escorted back to Jakarta, the CIA and Mossad knew the game was up.
The risks involved in Bali finally being exposed as a joint CIA-Mossad operation are awesome, and far more dangerous in their own way than the multiple allegations about 9/11. Though many investigators including myself have proved with ease that nearly half the named 9/11 "hijackers" are still alive and well today, and that forged evidence was deliberately planted at the crime scene in New York, none individually or severally have sufficient hard evidence to prove that 9/11 was a premeditated scam launched by Judeo-Christian crusaders, rather than by fictional Muslim "al Qaeda terrorists".
Bali is quite different. Because it is known that the only possible source for the weapon named by Deputy Speaker A. M. Fatwa is Dimona in Israel's Negev Desert, this single atrocity has the easy ability to unravel the entire carefully-constructed post- 9/11 "War on Terror", and its more recent oil-rich cousin, the "War on Iraq". If you successfully unravel the Bali atrocity, and correctly pin the blame on the CIA and Mossad, you automatically expose both "al Qaeda" and "Jemaah Islamiyah" as organizations deliberately invented by these two related western intelligence agencies. Indeed, using this process you prove that the CIA and Mossad ARE THEMSELVES "al Qaeda" and "Jemaah Islamiyah". Then, and only then, can you use modus operandi and due legal process to prove beyond doubt that the same two agencies were also responsible for 9/11.
This frightening possibility was a risk the agencies were not prepared to take, and the Kikambala operation was swiftly arranged to deflect attention away from the increasing anger in Indonesia. Unfortunately, there is a remote but worrying possibility that the lookalike Israeli attack on Kikambala, might have been designed to deliberately include propaganda enabling future "more sophisticated" attacks on the west.
So far as I know, this is the first time that either the CIA or the Mossad has actually brought you real television footage of an [unfired] surface-to-air missile launcher, with the obvious intent of convincing you that the fictional "al Qaeda" and "Jemaah Islamiyah" not only have access to such equipment, but are also willing and able to use it against unarmed civilian airplanes. The big problem, of course, is that this decoy missile equipment was deliberately placed in position by the Mossad, rather than any "Muslim terrorist" group.
Though I normally go out of my way to avoid causing public panic of any kind, now might be a good time to reevaluate just how necessary it might be for your wife, children or yourself to fly on commercial airplanes. If the CIA or Mossad feel the need to reinforce hatred and fear of "al Qaeda" or "Jemaah Islamiyah" at some time in the indeterminate future, there is now an odds-on chance that at least one of the future "terrorist atrocities" will involve a pair of [live] Israeli SA-7b Strela missiles hurtling up from the ground to join with your airliner in a deadly embrace, immediately after take off from New York, London or Sydney.
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[livefire]

Please forward your problem statement with possible recommendations!!!
otherwise sitting down like a mad man and quoting exerpts from Onyango Oloo MOSSAD's conspiracies doesnt augur well with a sensible being. They, the excerpts, aint talking for u. Speak up, whats aggrieving you?
If you are pro-militia/pro religion radicallism or anything to those extremeties....FREE AD: Anyone like Rogo, (THIS ONE BELIEVED IN ANARCHY), watasiagwa tu hizo kikambala teachings peleka MYC, mounting intel on the same is picking pace!

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Hapo ndio Unaona Umuhimu wa NYERERE aliona MBALI; alifanya MENGI kuondoa Matabaka na kutaifisha SHULE za DINI ili kusomesha watoto wote...

Na Pia kuhakikisha MIJI yote inakuwa sawa sawa MOSHI na BUKOBA ilizuiwa na Nyerere kukua ili Miji Mingine Ikue...

Kama Nyerere alikwamisha maksudi ukuwaji wa miji ya Bukoba na Moshi naona hapo aliteleza kidogo, kitu ambacho angefanya ni kuachia miji hiyo ikue alafu miji mingine iende kujifunza kutoka huko - Ujerumani na Merikani ndicho kitu wanacho fanya.

Hili la kuhusu miji ndio nalisikia kwa mara ya kwanza-lakini stagnation iliyokuja kutokea katika mji wa Bukoba ilionekana wazi wazi kwamba kuna ajenda ya SIRI siyo ya mji tu hata ELIMU - kwani makabila haya yaliwahi kumkwamisha nini, kavunja vyama vya ushirika bila huruma na kutaifisha fedha za wakulima zilizo wekwa kwenye Benki - mpaka leo fedha hizo hazijawahi kurudishwa, was this NORMAL! Wakulima wanaendelea kuwa masikini wa kutupwa baada ya Kambarage kuvuruga vyama vya ushirika vilivyo anzishwa kwa hiari in 1920's akavivuruga kimaksudi kwa sababu ambazo anazielewa yeye na Muhumba wake! Tukisema ulikuwa ni ukatiri husiyo kifani tutakuwa TUMEKOSEA!!!

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Mkuu AMI, mbona picha za wanaye dai na OSAMA zinatofautiana? Ukiangalia pua na ndevu ya picha ya katikati inatofautiana kabisa na picha ya kulia - hii ina maana gani! How can U take these guys seriously, naona kuna udanganyifu wa hali ya juu kabisa.

 

[Webabu]

Please forward your problem statement with possible recommendations!!!
otherwise sitting down like a mad man and quoting exerpts from Onyango Oloo MOSSAD's conspiracies doesnt augur well with a sensible being. They, the excerpts, aint talking for u. Speak up, whats aggrieving you?
If you are pro-militia/pro religion radicallism or anything to those extremeties....FREE AD: Anyone like Rogo, (THIS ONE BELIEVED IN ANARCHY), watasiagwa tu hizo kikambala teachings peleka MYC, mounting intel on the same is picking pace!

I think you have not read the article.Let me requote the author's conclusion who is very much above your arguments.
Bali is quite different. Because it is known that the only possible source for the weapon named by Deputy Speaker A. M. Fatwa is Dimona in Israel's Negev Desert, this single atrocity has the easy ability to unravel the entire carefully-constructed post- 9/11 "War on Terror", and its more recent oil-rich cousin, the "War on Iraq". If you successfully unravel the Bali atrocity, and correctly pin the blame on the CIA and Mossad, you automatically expose both "al Qaeda" and "Jemaah Islamiyah" as organizations deliberately invented by these two related western intelligence agencies. Indeed, using this process you prove that the CIA and Mossad ARE THEMSELVES "al Qaeda" and "Jemaah Islamiyah". Then, and only then, can you use modus operandi and due legal process to prove beyond doubt that the same two agencies were also responsible for 9/11.
You told me
"the excerpts, aint talking for u. Speak up, whats aggrieving you?".
From me I say there is no Alshabaab in Somalia but there is oil and muslims.Your mounting intel should understand that Kibaki was made to win the election so that He go there,and now the KDF is given drones for the job.People like Aboud Rogo are seen as hinderance towards smooth path to win the war.He could not participate in any way as you accuse him.

 

[kidadari]

Huyu jamaa alikua hatari kwa usalama wa nchi....wangechelea yangewakuta ya Msumbiji