The 1st 2013 Kenyan Presidential Debate

Mokoyo said:
Natamani kufahamu matumizi ya hizi pesa zote au hawa candidates wamelipwa perdiems, sielewi, nielimishwe
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Nadhani mkuu makoyo fedha nyingi zitakuwa zimelipwa kwenye media kununua airtime....wengine wanaweza kuongezea..
 
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Mokoyo said:
Natamani kufahamu matumizi ya hizi pesa zote au hawa candidates wamelipwa perdiems, sielewi, nielimishwe
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Mimi ningependa kujua nani ametoa hilo fungu. Isijekuwa kuna mgombea katia mkono wake hapo...
 
Dhuks said:
Lol dude get a life, when your candidate goes to sleep in debate you invoke my being a tna apologist as your best defence bet? When did being a cord supporter become a status symbol?
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Goes to sleep? You prove yours is an empty debe! Raila had eye surgery in the year 2008 due to the injuries inflicted on him while he was incarcerated by the Moi regime for fighting for our right to have multiparty politics and this debate!

http://allafrica.com/stories/200804300085.html

You can proceed with the belittling and underhand comments but it doesnt change the fact you are an Uhuru apologist for the obvious reasons!
 
Mokoyo said:
Keneth was more strong

Muite was undetermined

Uhuru was under pressure

Odinga was more confident [

Dida was there for entertainment

Mudavadi was more silent
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Mkuu mimi naona kama Uhuru was more confident while Raila was under pressure.
 
Uhuru taken to task over ICC in live debate






By ALPHONCE SHIUNDU ashiundu@ke.nationmedia.com
Posted Monday, February 11 2013 at 21:08

The pending trials at the International Criminal Court (ICC) at the Hague against a presidential candidate and his running mate took the prime time at the first presidential debate as candidates clashed about the legitimacy of Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta vying for Kenya's top job.


Mr Kenyatta had termed the cases against him and his running mate William Ruto were "personal challenges". He said the cases will not prevent him from running the government.

"It is my democratic right to present myself to the people of Kenya. If they so chose to elect me, it means they have confidence in me to continue doing my job as President while handling the cases," said Mr Kenyatta at Brookhouse International School auditorium in Nairobi where the debate took place.

Mr Mohammed Abduba Dida (Alliance for Real Change) and Ms Martha Karua (Narc Kenya) told Mr Kenyatta, to his face, that he had no business running, because the law directs that people have to be cleared first before they occupy public office.

"The culture of justice is that if you are suspected, the norms is that you step aside until you're cleared, why is it different with Uhuru and his friends," posed Mr Dida.

Ms Karua added: " I consider it a matter of display of impunity. We have laws. If you're just suspected you step aside or stand suspended. Since the charges were confirmed, my brother ought to have been suspended as Deputy Prime Minister".

Ms Karua said Mr Kenyatta's presidency will be challenged in court, that's if he wins in the March 4 General Election.

Prime Minister Raila Odinga said it is Parliament at the behest of Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto who decided to send the cases to the ICC only to turn around and accuse him of taking them there.

"I do not want to eliminate my competition, but I know that it will pose a serious challenge to run a government through Skype from The Hague," said Mr Odinga.

The PM added that together with President Kibaki they rallied Parliament to vote for a local tribunal, but the MPs rejected their lobbying.

Ms Karua and Mr Kenyatta told off the PM about the sequence of events.

They said the matter was shot down by MPs, including those loyal to the PM.

Ms Karua said that after the Cabinet approved the Bill on a local tribunal, President Kibaki and Mr Odinga failed to marshal support for it in Parliament.

"They left me with the baby. The two principals failed to come and persuade members to vote for a local tribunal. In their full view there was rebellion even from Cabinet ministers. They did not stand in Parliament and persuade their troops," said Ms Karua.

Safina's Paul Muite said if he wins the presidency he will haul President Kibaki and Mr Odinga to The Hague to answer to the post-election violence, because they are the ones who bear the greatest responsibility for the violence that rocked the country.

"It is impossible, you cannot persuade my mind or that of rational people that the two people did not know about it," said Mr Muite.

Mr Odinga termed Mr Muite's statement as "very irresponsible".

"I don't fear. I have nothing to hide. I will be very willing to go to The Hague," said Mr Odinga.

Mr Kenneth said there were so many people who were displaced by the violence and who were still languishing in camps, yet the national dialogue was based on the four who were at the ICC.

"For me I will go with the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. I want to defeat my brother (Mr Kenyatta) fairly," said Mr Kenneth.

Mr Mudavadi said the ICC issue was a "delicate matter" and that it should be handled noting that in the end Kenya has to live in the world.

Mr Mudavadi said there were "dangerous signals" from the West regarding the next elections vis-a vis ICC inductees, and asked Kenyans to think through their decision in the vote.

Prof Kiyiapi said the charges were grave and the best Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto to do would have been to clear their names first.

The debate was moderated by Mr Linus Kaikai of NTV.

Uhuru taken to task over ICC in live debate - CAMPAIGN NEWS - elections.nation.co.ke
 

I know cheap political statements come up with another one.
 
Kimbunga said:
Mkuu Mwita Maranya tumefika pabaya. Hivi kama pale buseresere wanapigana wakati ni kakitongoji tu vipi hili tifu likifika Dar? Mungu atuepushe na huu ugomvi wa kugombea kuchinja.
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Mkuu Kimbunga ni mambo ya ajabu sana haya ambayo hakuna aliyetarajia yanaweza kutokea Tanzania.

Unajua mimi nimeoa huko Geita na familia ya mke wangu upande wa mzazi mmoja ni wakristo huku upande wa mzazi mwingine ni waislamu.
Hebu pata picha ndugu wa damu wanavyotoana roho kwa sababu tu ya nani anastahili kuchinja kitoweo. Mtu unajiuliza serikali iko wapi na imefanya jitihada gani kulimaliza tatizo hilo lilipoanza kujitokeza? Wasira na Ndikilo walienda kuchochea moto badala ya kuuzima!
 
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Mchakato majimboni tu ulileta mtafaruku, kweli bongo noma, lini tutatambua umuhimu wa mijadala??? ideas matters alot
 
Kimbunga said:
Mkuu mimi naona kama Uhuru was more confident while Raila was under pressure.
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Uhuru alianza kwa low pace lakini baada ya swali la ICC na kupata back up ya baadhi ya wagombea wenzake aligain speed na kuanza kujiamini hadi anamaliza mdahalo.

Agwambo alianza vizuri lakini akajikuta under pressure muda wote toka kwa wagombea wenzake hivyo amemaliza akiwa moderate, hakuwa juu kama wengi walivyotarajia.

Naamini debate ya 25/02/2013 itakuwa nzuri sana kwakuwa wengi watakuwa wamejijengea confidence.
 
Dhuks said:
I know cheap political statements come up with another one.
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Cheap? A factual statement is only cheap to one blinded by emotions and detached from our reality? Is that not a historical statement? Certainly even in your quest as an apologist you are privy to our history!
 



Kenya National Congress leader Peter Kenneth (left) and Restore and Build Kenya's Prof James ole Kiyiapi at Brookhouse International School for a historic live presidential debate on February 13, 2013.





Cord's presidential candidate Raila Odinga arrives at Brookhouse International School for a historic live debate on February 11, 2013.




Jubilee presidential candidate Uhuru Kenyatta arrives at Brookhouse International School, Nairobi on February 11, 2013 for a historic live debate​
 



Alliance of Real Change party presidential candidate Mohammed Abduba Dida (centre) arrives at Brookhouse International School for a historic debate on February 11, 2013

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Safina Party presidential candidate Paul Muite with his running mate Shem Ochuodho (right) arrive at Brookhouse International School for a historic live debate on February 11, 2013.

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