The Atheists Paradox

Ishmael · Mar 4, 2015

It is philosophically impracticable to be a non theist; since to be a non theist you must have adequate lowdown in order to know that there is no God and or no deity exist, inter-alia, to be sure about saying "God does not exist", you have to have infinite knowledge. Saying so, to have infinite erudition knowledge, a non theist would have to be God him/her/-self. It's a paradox to be God yourself and a non theist at the same time!

Wherefore, I would extend this by saying non theists rather than know God doesn't exist they in fact BELIEVE God doesn't exist, although they do not have evidence of their belief. Accordingly, this produces a problem since non theists defend their beliefs and condemn those of religion and or faith in God by saying religion is just a belief where as non theism is....???

Non theist Paradox

TanzaniaLaw · Mar 5, 2015

Post hanc optimam in atheos non videbitis

Kwedu Kwazu · Mar 5, 2015

Hii imetulia sana

shalet · Mar 5, 2015

tatizo taarifa za uwepo wa Mungu tunizipata kwenye vitabu vyenye stori za kutungwa kama quran na bible kwa rational being to believe in reliogion is absurdity.

Ishmael · Mar 5, 2015

shalet said:
tatizo taarifa za uwepo wa Mungu tunizipata kwenye vitabu vyenye stori za kutungwa kama quran na bible kwa rational being to believe in reliogion is absurdity.

You are wrong young man. God existed even before the Bible and Quran. Tatizo ni wewe mwenye akili tegemezi katika kufikiria huku ukidhania kuwa unafahamu vyote.

Unaweza nionyesha na au niambia, kwanini hakuna Mungu bila ya kutumia hivyo vitabu ulivyo sema, and I will show you there is God bila ya Biblia.

Siki utakayo gundua kuwa Maji hayapimwi kwa Metal Detector, basi utakuwa umetoka kwenye box la akina Free ideas and introvert

Let me see your intelligence.

Ishmael · Mar 5, 2015

Kwedu Kwazu said:
Hii imetulia sana

Those guys are in fact believers of no God. It is a religion called non theism. The name of their deity is c Darwin.

Kwedu Kwazu · Mar 6, 2015

shalet said:
tatizo taarifa za uwepo wa Mungu tunizipata kwenye vitabu vyenye stori za kutungwa kama quran na bible kwa rational being to believe in reliogion is absurdity.

Hakuna tatizo, ni kushindwa kwako kuelewa tu na sio tatizo la wote.

Ishmael · Mar 7, 2015

The paradox of atheism is that the atheist, while usually committed to living a life consistent with reality, cannot bear reality as he believes it actually is.

Ishmael · Mar 7, 2015

Truth-seeking paradox from non theists. If a truth-loving God does not exist according to non theists fallacy, then truth-seeking is neither conitrinsically good nor morally obligatory. Therefore, paradoxically, the Christian has grounds to urge all people to seek the truth and to claim it is their moral obligation to seek the truth whereas the non theist has no grounds to urge others to seek the truth or to claim it is their moral obligation to do so.
In fact without God there is no morals neither good or bad or evil can not exist.

komuge68 · Mar 10, 2015

In my experience, there are many millions of people around the world who do not believe in God but still have ethical (moral) systems and beliefs, and who try to make the world a better place.

Ishmael · Mar 10, 2015

komuge68 said:
In my experience, there are many millions of people around the world who do not believe in God but still have ethical (moral) systems and beliefs, and who try to make the world a better place.

1) Objective moral values and duties cannot exist unless God exists.
2) Objective moral values and duties do exist.

Therefore, God exists.

One would need to defeat premise 1 or 2 or the conclusion is inescapable.

AustinNdyetabula · Mar 12, 2015

Ishmael, people like you are why there is so much religion-related strife in our otherwise balanced world. What is the difference between a theist castigating atheists, and a muslim criticising christianity? Your blatant, i might go as far as suggesting offensive, rumblings on atheism reflect a severe lack of open-mindedness. Your quest to crush other peoples' beliefs is paradoxical to your "god-given morals"; as you suggest, surely somebody with as strong theistic tendencies as you do should be encompassing to a wider group of people? Despite my beliefs being contrary to yours, i would never go as far as to proclaim that my beliefs are the only possible beliefs, and further my position that whomever claims otherwise is a reprehensible buffoon, but you clearly have no qualms regarding that. Now really reflect on whether or not i need to be a theist to be moral.

Your response to any opposing input is to shout your claims louder, and draw support from your supporters. I have clashed with you on a similar matter before, and i have learnt to not expect a fair intellectual discourse with you. In fact, i can go so far as suggesting that your response my input will be derogatory, and will make claims about my intelligence.

One thing i find funny is how you claim your theism is not related to any religion, yet you insist on a morality-preaching god. Surely you are not that obtuse.

Ishmael · Mar 13, 2015

AustinNdyetabula said:
Ishmael, people like you are why there is so much religion-related strife in our otherwise balanced world. What is the difference between a theist castigating atheists, and a muslim criticising christianity? Your blatant, i might go as far as suggesting offensive, rumblings on atheism reflect a severe lack of open-mindedness. Your quest to crush other peoples' beliefs is paradoxical to your "god-given morals"; as you suggest, surely somebody with as strong theistic tendencies as you do should be encompassing to a wider group of people? Despite my beliefs being contrary to yours, i would never go as far as to proclaim that my beliefs are the only possible beliefs, and further my position that whomever claims otherwise is a reprehensible buffoon, but you clearly have no qualms regarding that. Now really reflect on whether or not i need to be a theist to be moral.

Your response to any opposing input is to shout your claims louder, and draw support from your supporters. I have clashed with you on a similar matter before, and i have learnt to not expect a fair intellectual discourse with you. In fact, i can go so far as suggesting that your response my input will be derogatory, and will make claims about my intelligence.

One thing i find funny is how you claim your theism is not related to any religion, yet you insist on a morality-preaching god. Surely you are not that obtuse.

You avoid the substance of my arguments. You'll say anything to 'respond' without answering anything of value or substance, inter-alia, you have demonstrated obtuseness and willingness to brazenly lie for appearances.

By the way, Christianity is not a religion, in contrast, non theism is a diabolical religion.

Ishmael · Mar 13, 2015

AustinNdyetabula said:
Ishmael, people like you are why there is so much religion-related strife in our otherwise balanced world.

You are absolutely wrong, I am not a follower of any religion. I follow Christ Jesus who is the God of the Universe, whether you like or not, it is like that.

Furthermore, I am not sure what do you mean by balanced world while there are non theists who hates God without a reason. Anyways, Christianity is not a religion and nerve will be one.

Ishmael · Mar 13, 2015

AustinNdyetabula said:
Your blatant, i might go as far as suggesting offensive, rumblings on atheism reflect a severe lack of open-mindedness.

I speak my mind, just like God Haters do, when they mindlessness dismiss the existence of God without evidence. Your post is proven wrong in straight logic. Tell the God Haters first.

Ishmael · Mar 13, 2015

AustinNdyetabula said:
Your quest to crush other peoples' beliefs is paradoxical to your "god-given morals"; as you suggest, surely somebody with as strong theistic tendencies as you do should be encompassing to a wider group of people?

All those hostilities and you cannot provide a single example where I am wrong.

Ishmael · Mar 13, 2015

AustinNdyetabula said:
Despite my beliefs being contrary to yours, i would never go as far as to proclaim that my beliefs are the only possible beliefs, and further my position that whomever claims otherwise is a reprehensible buffoon, but you clearly have no qualms regarding that. Now really reflect on whether or not i need to be a theist to be moral.

More slop. No substance. You still haven't given me a logical argument to back up your ridiculous non theist inspired statements you construed above. You have no refutations. You have no evidence or arguments. You are angry and humiliated.

Ishmael · Mar 13, 2015

AustinNdyetabula said:
Your response to any opposing input is to shout your claims louder, and draw support from your supporters. I have clashed with you on a similar matter before, and i have learnt to not expect a fair intellectual discourse with you. In fact, i can go so far as suggesting that your response my input will be derogatory, and will make claims about my intelligence.

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Until you are smart enough to realize that your logic is supremely screwed up, I guess we'll have to agree that you don't wish to further incriminate yourself and risk openly displaying your apparent dishonesty by answering my question. You are too lazy and dishonest to engage and think.

Furthermore, you lack the intellectual honesty to admit corrections, just like all other God Haters.

Ishmael · Mar 13, 2015

AustinNdyetabula said:
In fact, i can go so far as suggesting that your response my input will be derogatory, and will make claims about my intelligence.

Dismissals are appropriate whenever the fanatically-God Hater (that is you, by the way) have offered only worn-out, re-hashed circular diabolical and fiendish logic and no physical evidence to examine.

Eiyer · Mar 13, 2015

Ishmael said:
Dismissals are appropriate whenever the fanatically-God Hater (that is you, by the way) have offered only worn-out, re-hashed circular diabolical and fiendish logic and no physical evidence to examine.

Hahahahahahaaaa!!!

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