The Atheists Paradox

[schizoid-man]

It is philosophically impracticable to be a non theist; since to be a non theist you must have adequate lowdown in order to know that there is no God and or no deity exist, inter-alia, to be sure about saying "God does not exist", you have to have infinite knowledge. Saying so, to have infinite erudition knowledge, a non theist would have to be God him/her/-self. It’s a paradox to be God yourself and a non theist at the same time!

Wherefore, I would extend this by saying non theists rather than know God doesn't exist they in fact BELIEVE God doesn't exist, although they do not have evidence of their belief. Accordingly, this produces a problem since non theists defend their beliefs and condemn those of religion and or faith in God by saying religion is just a belief where as non theism is....???

Non theist Paradox

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[Ishmael]

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One of the most interesting incongruity paradoxes inherent innate to non theism involves the intrinsic value of truth-seeking, inter-alia, all of us seem naturally inclined as human beings to seek the veracity for its own sake, not merely for what benefits the truth can provide. For instance, if someone told us ``Believe this religion not because it is true, but because it will improve your marriage and help your career," most of us would be revolted. And rightly so. But herein lies the first problem: it is very hard for atheists to explain why seeking the truth is intrinsically good or why we are obligated to seek it.

 

[Ishmael]

Hahahahahahaaaa!!!

Kiongozi, hawa jamaa niachieni mimi.

 

[schizoid-man]

One of the most interesting incongruity paradoxes inherent innate to non theism involves the intrinsic value of truth-seeking, inter-alia, all of us seem naturally inclined as human beings to seek the veracity for its own sake, not merely for what benefits the truth can provide. For instance, if someone told us ``Believe this religion not because it is true, but because it will improve your marriage and help your career," most of us would be revolted. And rightly so. But herein lies the first problem: it is very hard for atheists to explain why seeking the truth is intrinsically good or why we are obligated to seek it.

I still do not understand why atheists have problems with Christians only, why not Hinduism? why not Buddhism, Islam or Shinto from China? is there any reason why Christianity seems to be their biggest target?

 

[Ishmael]

I still do not understand why atheists have problems with Christians only, why not Hinduism? why not Buddhism, Islam or Shinto from China? is there any reason why Christianity seems to be their biggest target?

Even here at JF, those God Haters never said ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST, may be they are scared of been beheaded by the grand sons of Allah. The funny part is this, non theists like Free ideas are scared of death, in contrast, Muslims and non theists do co exist in harmony because both of them denies the existence of God..

 

[schizoid-man]

Even here at JF, those God Haters never said ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST, may be they are scared of been beheaded by the grand sons of Allah. The funny part is this, non theists like Free ideas are scared of death, in contrast, Muslims and non theists do co exist in harmony because both of them denies the existence of God..

according to THEM God doesnt exist, and if He does not exist then that means(TO THEM) that when people die they are going no where, no heaven no hell.. because non of them exists (TO THEM)!! so they are afraid of the NOTHINGNESS.. afraid of what it feels like to be in a deep sleep and not waking up forever, afraid of your place/life being swiped out as if you never existed!
man.. they have a right to shiver for that, we have HOPE and FAITH

 

[Ishmael]

according to THEM God doesnt exist, and if He does not exist then that means(TO THEM) that when people die they are going no where, no heaven no hell.. because non of them exists (TO THEM)!! so they are afraid of the NOTHINGNESS.. afraid of what it feels like to be in a deep sleep and not waking up forever, afraid of your place/life being swiped out as if you never existed!
man.. they have a right to shiver for that, we have HOPE and FAITH

One of the non theist said this:

But here is my problem. I am afraid of dying. I am so afraid of dying that if I think about what it would mean, even for a second, I become fixated on the thought and have a panic attack where I reach the point of almost passing out. It only happens every once in a while, and I am a fully functioning person, but if I do think about it I can't function.

Read more: Ask Richard: Atheist Haunted by the Fear of Death

 

[Kwedu Kwazu]

In my experience, there are many millions of people around the world who do not believe in God but still have ethical (moral) systems and beliefs, and who try to make the world a better place.

Millions/ What kind of experience is that?

 

[komuge68]

My career has resulted in my living and working in 45 countries on 5 continents.

 

[descarte]

It is philosophically impracticable to be a non theist; since to be a non theist you must have adequate lowdown in order to know that there is no God and or no deity exist, inter-alia, to be sure about saying "God does not exist", you have to have infinite knowledge. Saying so, to have infinite erudition knowledge, a non theist would have to be God him/her/-self. It’s a paradox to be God yourself and a non theist at the same time!

Wherefore, I would extend this by saying non theists rather than know God doesn't exist they in fact BELIEVE God doesn't exist, although they do not have evidence of their belief. Accordingly, this produces a problem since non theists defend their beliefs and condemn those of religion and or faith in God by saying religion is just a belief where as non theism is....???

Non theist Paradox

Do you have proves of the existence of God?

 

[descarte]

One of the non theist said this:

But here is my problem. I am afraid of dying. I am so afraid of dying that if I think about what it would mean, even for a second, I become fixated on the thought and have a panic attack where I reach the point of almost passing out. It only happens every once in a while, and I am a fully functioning person, but if I do think about it I can’t function.

Read more: Ask Richard: Atheist Haunted by the Fear of Death

Death is a realization of being fully human beings and when human being is born, he or she is old enough to die. Therefore fear of death is ungrounded.
In fact some philosophers claim that immortality or life after death is a manifestation of our egoistic tendency of always want to live many years.

 

[Ishmael]

Do you have proves of the existence of God?

Intellectuals don't use proofs but evidence to supports claims. You can not prove to me that Hitler existed but only give me evidences.

All of my arguments are for God's existence. You have no answers, just empty dismissals. Where is your sufficient cause of a Universe which began to exist from physical nothing (per Big Bang, BGV theorem)? There would be no 'great' morals if God doesn't exist. There would only be 7 Billion illusions - and none of them true.

Where is your objective basis for moral truth and duties?

 

[descarte]

1) Objective moral values and duties cannot exist unless God exists.
2) Objective moral values and duties do exist.

Therefore, God exists.

One would need to defeat premise 1 or 2 or the conclusion is inescapable.

In your first proposition there is presumption and it is begging the question. How sure are you that objective morality justify God. How is objective, objective?

 

[Ishmael]

Death is a realization of being fully human beings and when human being is born, he or she is old enough to die. Therefore fear of death is ungrounded.
In fact some philosophers claim that immortality or life after death is a manifestation of our egoistic tendency of always want to live many years.

You can die without seen the earth/born. Your argument is slippery slope, in contrast, natural selection has developed potential biological immortality in at least one species, the jellyfish Turritopsis dohrnii.

 

[descarte]

Intellectuals don't use proofs but evidence to supports claims. You can not prove to me that Hitler existed but only give me evidences.

All of my arguments are for God's existence. You have no answers, just empty dismissals. Where is your sufficient cause of a Universe which began to exist from physical nothing (per Big Bang, BGV theorem)? There would be no 'great' morals if God doesn't exist. There would only be 7 Billion illusions - and none of them true.

Where is your objective basis for moral truth and duties?

I fact it is logically incorrect and illegitimate for an argument to start from a posterior to A prior.

 

[Ishmael]

In your first proposition there is presumption and it is begging the question. How sure are you that objective morality justify God. How is objective, objective?

Why don't you refute the argument of morality with verifiable evidence. Good or evil can not exist without God.

 

[descarte]

You can die without seen the earth/born. Your argument is slippery slope, in contrast, natural selection has developed potential biological immortality in at least one species, the jellyfish Turritopsis dohrnii.

It is false accusation i never talked about seeing but being born.

 

[Ishmael]

I fact it is logically incorrect and illegitimate for an argument to start from a posterior to A prior.

Dismissals are not refutations. You lack any refutations.

You lack any evidence or arguments to justify your blind non theist faith.

 

[Ishmael]

It is false accusation i never talked about seeing but being born.

So, you can only die when you are born?

 

[descarte]

Why don't you refute the argument of morality with verifiable evidence. Good or evil can not exist without God.

Of course i think your the one to give evidence of your first claim cuz it just a presumption