Juakali1980
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To you JUBILOOTERS its nonsense,BUT ITS NOT
The Evil Uhuru Mugai
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Juakali1980
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The main beef JOHO has been highlighted Mr Wanjala...
THE STANDARD GUAGE RAILWAY; THE LOSS OF A BIRTHRIGHT IN THE TALE OF TWO CITIES. (MOMBASA & NAIVASHA)
When the Standard Gauge Railway was conceived under the Kibaki/Raila administration, it was a moment full of joy and promise for kenya. It was born with every stakeholder in mind. The benefits and losses were balanced fairly throughout the country of Kenya. The future was full of limitless possibilities.
But it has now become a bitter pill to swallow. Especially for the coastal people's and Mombasa. When the Jubilee regime came to power, their ascension became our misery. The best of their time is now the worst of ours. Their "spring of hope" has become our "winter of despair".
That a modern railway was due in Kenya is not the question. The problem is that the obscene inflation of the price under Jubilee has made it too expensive for kenya. To cater for this cost, the jubilee administration has had to provide a number of guarantees to ensure the réalisation of this project. Key amongst the guarantees is that they have mortgaged the economic future of Mombasa. The port of Mombasa. Our birthright.
We would like the people of Kenya to know, we are a city at risk. Not only have they concessioned away the port of Mombasa in secret, the SGR will kill the city. Like the children of the biblical Isaac, one of us has sold his brothers birthright.
Key amongst the guarantees that have been conceded by the GOK for this project to come to like are
a. Financial Guarantees
1. A "Take or Pay" contract with the Kenya Ports Authority. This means if the KPA cannot provide certain amount of goods, they have to pay the Chinese Exim Bank the difference.
2. The Railway Development Levy 1.5% RDL, this is a charge levied on ALL goods passing the port of Mombasa to satisfy the 10% local financing of the project.
3. A sovereign guarantee was issued by the National Treasury, Government of Kenya guaranteeing this loan.
b. Non Financial Guarantees
1. A Dry Port in Naivasha to move port operations.
2. A special economic zone in Naivasha to create new source of goods for the railway.
3. The disregard of the current concession with the old railway.
4. The privatisation and concession of the Port of Mombasa to private players to seek efficiency.
5. The guarantee by compulsion of goods from road traffic to rail at a higher cost
Consequences of this project are
1. The immediate loss of Jobs for over 7000 current port employees, their dépendants and affiliated businesses
2. The death of all port related business in Mombasa. From Trucking, Loading, Clearing and forwarding, Warehousing, logistics and others.
3. The arrest of all logistics-related future development
4. The death of related logistics cities and towns along trucking routes on Nairobi-Mombasa highway.
In the light of this, we hereby demand that
1. That the government release the terms of the contract with the Chinese Exim Bank, the details of disbursement and attendant relavant information
2. The Government of Kenya release all details of the Take or Pay contract between KPA and the financiers? What is the goods threshold and the responsibility of collection of the these fees.
3. Due to conflicting reports, the government clarify in details all charges related to goods and their destinations.
4. The government clarify the method of nomination of goods for rail and the point and implementation of charges.
5. The government clarify the extinction date of the Railway Development Levy on goods and come clean on the amounts collected since.
6. The government release the terms of the port concession, all monies paid and the details of the contract
7. The the Government clarify the details of site selection of Naivasha as a dry port. The feasibility study and the project appraisal report.
8. That the government release the "Willingness to Pay" survey of the goods for meant for railway and the feasibility report of the proposed Naivasha Special Economic Zone.
9. And that the Jubilee government show us their plan for Mombasa.
I wish to reiterate to the people of Mombasa and the coast at large, I will not have performed my duty before God and the people if I do not stand firm against this issue. I pray that you stand by your leaders as we seek to determine what future our country holds for us.
I wish to declare that you are the determinant of that future. You have a choice. On 8/8/17, make the right choice. Vote for Raila Amollo Odinga and Kalonzo Musyoka. Thank you
Hassan Ali Joho
Deputy Party Leader
Orange Democratic Movement
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The sky is red. Repeat it until it becomes red in your brain. That's the gospel according to joho. U seem to forget the part of the port being sold.
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Oh and you forgot the part of sgr being inflated by Ksh 100b. So on memory statements you are scoring 5/10. Though you are doing well.
Juakali1980
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You know whats in your DNA??JUBILOOTER
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Kikuyus are kenyans ..upende usipende ...if you ojingas have a problem ..go and vote ..otherwise ..tupatane august 8 ballot box ..and shut the hell up ..if 2007 repeats its self we will all suffer .
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Nobody here has called for violence....calling this regime JUBILOOTERS OF WHICH THEY ARE IS NOT VIOLNCE...TUKUTANE KWA DEBE 8/8..12 MILLION STRONG..
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Piece of shit ...just shut the hell up .if raila winds its fine ..but leave kikuyus alone...and fun fact ..iam kikuyu if you really hate us then leave the country ok ?
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Atiriri!!!!
Just shut up once and for all,iam kikuyu from kiambu and i hate this nonsense of yours!!!
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Kiambu ranked the country’s crime capital
THURSDAY APRIL 20 2017
Kiambu County is Kenya’s crime capital going by the cases reported to police.
Of the 76,986 cases reported to police countrywide last year, 6,006 were in Kiambu followed by Meru (5,117), Nairobi (4,954) and Nakuru (4,133).
The figures are contained in a government survey on serious crimes like murder, robbery with violence and sexual offences.
Murder in Kenya is on the increase, according to the survey. Some 2,751 homicides were reported in 2016.
The report puts murder and suicide under one category - homicide.
GONE COLD
According to the survey only a handful of murder cases made it to the courts suggesting many are either being investigated or have gone cold.
At the High Court in Nairobi, 184 murders cases were registered.
In Eldoret, the county that came second in registered murder cases, the courts are trying 92 cases of murder.
Other counties with high numbers of murder are Meru (77), Kakamega (55), Nakuru (52), Kisii (34) and Murang’a (32).
Of all the total, 1,248 men and 198 women were listed as murder suspects by police.
“The number of persons reported to have committed the offences may differ with that of crimes reported to police because a person may commit more than one crime or a crime may be committed by more than one person,” the survey explained.
Kiambu ranked the country’s crime capital
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Wewe na nani? Acha kutumia wingi kwenye umoja.
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Mimi sio mpiga dili na wala maisha yangu hayategemei wapiga dili kwa namna yoyote, nazidi kunawiri tu.
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In light of the launch of the SGR doomsayers have been on the prowl how bus and freight companies will be rendered jobless .
Allow me to delve into it in my small way and try to demystify the effects . I will focus on freight while I will tackle passenger side on another day .
First we need to go back into history. When KPA was considered efficient which was mainly in the 80's and early 90's our port handled between 250,000 and 500,000 containers.
In those days the railway worked and container evacuation was fine but with time Kenya Railways went from bad to worse . Containers were getting piled at the port and countries like Uganda and Rwanda which depend wholly on Mombasa felt the pinch.
To compound the mess and inefficiency in evacuating containers by KR , we suffered Elnino in 1998 which virtually destroyed our road network . The only way to evacuate cargo was negatively affected.
Between 1999 and 2002 the country was more focused in transitioning from the rule of Daniel Arap Moi and KANU regine where little real work was being done . When Kibaki & NARC took over in 2002 they inherited one fine mess at the port. Container Freight Stations commonly referred to as CFS were born.
Please note we already had Inland Container Deports ICD in Nairobi then later Kisumu and Eldoret. With lack of speedy evacuation of cargo those ICD's were rendered useless hence external storage in Mombasa had to found and it had to be found very fast hence CFS's were born. From my study I found 15 or so CFS's operate on and around the port of Mombasa.
Now are CFS's the efficient way to manage a port ? Personally I don't think so and the experts also know that pretty well . CFS's were meant to be stop gap solution to help decongest the port of Mombasa . No other serious port will have CFS's surrounding it . Containers are meant to be cleared as fast as possible and off they start their journey into the hinterland.
Quicker movement of cargo means business people in Uganda , Rwanda , now South Sudan , Eastern Congo and even Nairobi would be happy with faster evacuation and cheaper rates .
From the aforegoing as long as Rift Valley Railways was inefficient then CFS's would flourish. Please note the same CFS's ended up surrounding the port as opposed to finding a home in the greater Mombasa like in Mazerras and Mariakani. We have several CFS's along Kibarani and Makupa causeway which is the biggest source of the traffic gridlock because they were not meant to be there in the first place.
If we don't style up then Uganda and Rwanda will simply opt for Tanzania ports .We want Mombasa to handle 2M or 3 Million containers up from 1Million hence container evacuation is key hence the entry of SGR under Vision 2030.
Reality and allow me to be brutal , CFS's will finally scale down. Folks the hue and cry is more to do with the survival of CFS's as opposed to the port itself. Since you now understand how they came up, I really don't see how they will continue to flourish under the SGR.
Let alone Naivasha, Ugandans and Rwanda nationals will now opt to pick their cargo in Nbi and hit the southern bypass, tbey are the customers. With Tanzania trying hard to woo them we cannot afford to sit pretty for even a second .
With fewer container freight stations it will now help Mombasa to decongest and investors will get attracted. Attractive city will attract more tourists and other industries and Mombasa will find an even more sustainable source of employment . What the CFS operators should be doing is to come together and form a consortium to run and manage a berth at the port . They do it in Durban which is 3 times more busy and triple the number of berths . While we boast of 21 Durban has over 60.
Clearing firms saw it coming, CFS owners saw it coming so it is high time we got honest with ourselves and embrace the SGR while we we seek alternatives and accept that the cheese has moved. Truck owners should seriously consider leasing the wagons on the SGR and give importers a one stop solution from Nbi onwards to other parts of the region. For truck owners you now have an opportunity to pick cargo from Nbi and take it further inland.
The fact is that there is plenty for all if only we embraced an abundance mentality. Truth be said , the complete containersation of Mombasa and crowding of the only entry to our city has not endeared the Container stations to the rest of Mombasa residents . We want the port to do well , we want transporters to thrive but we also want sanity.
Change whose time has come cannot be stopped, any businessman will opt for the SGR as opposed to using a truck. I will not even touch on the benefits of decongesting of Mombasa Nairobi highway.
If I did not accurately capture an issue correctly please feel free to point it out.
As always I choose to remain an optimist.
Mohammed Hersi
Chairman
Kenya Coast Tourism Association
Allow me to delve into it in my small way and try to demystify the effects . I will focus on freight while I will tackle passenger side on another day .
First we need to go back into history. When KPA was considered efficient which was mainly in the 80's and early 90's our port handled between 250,000 and 500,000 containers.
In those days the railway worked and container evacuation was fine but with time Kenya Railways went from bad to worse . Containers were getting piled at the port and countries like Uganda and Rwanda which depend wholly on Mombasa felt the pinch.
To compound the mess and inefficiency in evacuating containers by KR , we suffered Elnino in 1998 which virtually destroyed our road network . The only way to evacuate cargo was negatively affected.
Between 1999 and 2002 the country was more focused in transitioning from the rule of Daniel Arap Moi and KANU regine where little real work was being done . When Kibaki & NARC took over in 2002 they inherited one fine mess at the port. Container Freight Stations commonly referred to as CFS were born.
Please note we already had Inland Container Deports ICD in Nairobi then later Kisumu and Eldoret. With lack of speedy evacuation of cargo those ICD's were rendered useless hence external storage in Mombasa had to found and it had to be found very fast hence CFS's were born. From my study I found 15 or so CFS's operate on and around the port of Mombasa.
Now are CFS's the efficient way to manage a port ? Personally I don't think so and the experts also know that pretty well . CFS's were meant to be stop gap solution to help decongest the port of Mombasa . No other serious port will have CFS's surrounding it . Containers are meant to be cleared as fast as possible and off they start their journey into the hinterland.
Quicker movement of cargo means business people in Uganda , Rwanda , now South Sudan , Eastern Congo and even Nairobi would be happy with faster evacuation and cheaper rates .
From the aforegoing as long as Rift Valley Railways was inefficient then CFS's would flourish. Please note the same CFS's ended up surrounding the port as opposed to finding a home in the greater Mombasa like in Mazerras and Mariakani. We have several CFS's along Kibarani and Makupa causeway which is the biggest source of the traffic gridlock because they were not meant to be there in the first place.
If we don't style up then Uganda and Rwanda will simply opt for Tanzania ports .We want Mombasa to handle 2M or 3 Million containers up from 1Million hence container evacuation is key hence the entry of SGR under Vision 2030.
Reality and allow me to be brutal , CFS's will finally scale down. Folks the hue and cry is more to do with the survival of CFS's as opposed to the port itself. Since you now understand how they came up, I really don't see how they will continue to flourish under the SGR.
Let alone Naivasha, Ugandans and Rwanda nationals will now opt to pick their cargo in Nbi and hit the southern bypass, tbey are the customers. With Tanzania trying hard to woo them we cannot afford to sit pretty for even a second .
With fewer container freight stations it will now help Mombasa to decongest and investors will get attracted. Attractive city will attract more tourists and other industries and Mombasa will find an even more sustainable source of employment . What the CFS operators should be doing is to come together and form a consortium to run and manage a berth at the port . They do it in Durban which is 3 times more busy and triple the number of berths . While we boast of 21 Durban has over 60.
Clearing firms saw it coming, CFS owners saw it coming so it is high time we got honest with ourselves and embrace the SGR while we we seek alternatives and accept that the cheese has moved. Truck owners should seriously consider leasing the wagons on the SGR and give importers a one stop solution from Nbi onwards to other parts of the region. For truck owners you now have an opportunity to pick cargo from Nbi and take it further inland.
The fact is that there is plenty for all if only we embraced an abundance mentality. Truth be said , the complete containersation of Mombasa and crowding of the only entry to our city has not endeared the Container stations to the rest of Mombasa residents . We want the port to do well , we want transporters to thrive but we also want sanity.
Change whose time has come cannot be stopped, any businessman will opt for the SGR as opposed to using a truck. I will not even touch on the benefits of decongesting of Mombasa Nairobi highway.
If I did not accurately capture an issue correctly please feel free to point it out.
As always I choose to remain an optimist.
Mohammed Hersi
Chairman
Kenya Coast Tourism Association
Juakali1980
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OH!You can't handle the truth?am sorry you're from Kiambu tho..Uhuru amewaletea umeme...nice progress.JUBILOOTERS TANO TENA..
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Kilam hahahaha
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Juakali 1980, ang'o matimi? If you've got some bone to chew just be patient till thedashara ( thenashara or whatever the https://jamii.app/JFUserGuide Swahilis call it ) idhi igo ombulu.
Let me tell you something you already know. Uhuru gi Joshua are family friends. Remember when Rosemary was ill & flown to SA for medical aid, Uhuru's sister & his son Muhoho went to visit.
When Raila had his neuro surgery done & recuperating in his Karen home, Uhuru & his family went to visit with goodies.
When mad dog Duale was taking political jibes against Baba too far, it was Uhuru who told him to scale it back.
A huge chunk of gov't tenders go to Raila's conglomerates as well. They know it's just politics & nothing too serious.
Shida ni sisi the voters who don't vote in visionary leaders but tenderpreneurs based on political alliances.
So, breathe & take it easy. The day you'll realise tunacheswa na so-called politicians, you'll get the satisfaction of finally being smart.
Btw ningekuwa NBI I would have voted in either PK or MM.
Let me tell you something you already know. Uhuru gi Joshua are family friends. Remember when Rosemary was ill & flown to SA for medical aid, Uhuru's sister & his son Muhoho went to visit.
When Raila had his neuro surgery done & recuperating in his Karen home, Uhuru & his family went to visit with goodies.
When mad dog Duale was taking political jibes against Baba too far, it was Uhuru who told him to scale it back.
A huge chunk of gov't tenders go to Raila's conglomerates as well. They know it's just politics & nothing too serious.
Shida ni sisi the voters who don't vote in visionary leaders but tenderpreneurs based on political alliances.
So, breathe & take it easy. The day you'll realise tunacheswa na so-called politicians, you'll get the satisfaction of finally being smart.
Btw ningekuwa NBI I would have voted in either PK or MM.