Mekatilili
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This is arguably the most productive thread on this forum. Do you have questions about grammar and sarufi? This is a crowdsourcing platform that will help you find the answers.
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Filipo Lubua
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The goat was killed by a hyena
Which is the subject in my sentence above? Do you think it matches with the definition you gave on your thread, that the subject the person or thing that is doing something?
Which is the subject in my sentence above? Do you think it matches with the definition you gave on your thread, that the subject the person or thing that is doing something?
Mekatilili
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Sorry but, crowd source, crowdsource or even crowd-source is accepted. They are all American neologisms-coined in 2000s. There are two versions: crowdsource, from crowd + outsourcing; outsourcing to the crowd, and the earlier version crowd source, from the noun, crowd, and the verb, source; sourced from the crowd.
Mekatilili
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Yes it matches! The goat is the object and the hyena is the subject. Your sentence is in the passive voice, where the object takes the physical position of the subject in the sentence. In the active voice, the hyena killed the goat.
The subject is the person or thing doing something(the hyena), and the object is having something done to it(the goat).
Askari Kanzu
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Keep on staying in the dark!
MK254
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Man, you're a unique stone age breed that found itself in 21st century. The guy is trying to educate you, swallow your pride and learn. This thread will be useful if we all contribute positively.
Askari Kanzu
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It doesn't help!
Filipo Lubua
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So you want to say that in the sentence "The goat was killed by a hyena" the subject is "hyena"?
The problem in your definition is that while the subject is syntactically described, you described it semantically. Subject of a sentence is a syntactical entity, and it should always be described in that paramenter. The correct definition of the subject is "the figure or part of sentence that s described by the rest part of the sentence". This definition is inclussive. It includes such syntactic categories as that clauses, wh- clauses, gerunds and infinitives, etc. which are not included in your former definition.
Reginald12
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In a passive construction, the logical object (of an active sentence) becomes the subject of the (passive) sentence. He must have been referring to what my English teacher referred to as 'the doer' occupying the subject position in an active sentence.
Reginald12
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Mekatilili must be referring to the general practice with forming compound words; indeed they could be formed as one word, hyphenated or written as two words. Social conventions usually determine that.
It appears crowdsourcing is to be written as one word, at least according to the following website.
crowdsource: definition of crowdsource in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)
Askari Kanzu
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Exactly, but apparently Mekatilili thinks his Kenyan version is the correct one!
Mekatilili
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I am not a Kenyan but Kenya is my second home. Calling me a Kenyan is an honor!!
I think I exhausted this issue in my last post; crowd source, crowdsource or even crowd-source is accepted. They are all American neologisms-coined in 2000s. There are two versions: crowdsource, from crowd + outsourcing; outsourcing to the crowd, and the earlier version crowd source, from the noun, crowd, and the verb, source; sourced from the crowd.
If this is over your head, I have nothing else to discuss with you on this, or any other issue.
Ab-Titchaz
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Wakuu,
Kidhungu kilikuja na meli yakhe...mwenzenu nasepa!...:loco:
Kidhungu kilikuja na meli yakhe...mwenzenu nasepa!...:loco:
Mr Q
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kwa maana hiyo mbuzi anakuwa subject kwa sababu ndiye anaye elezwa na the rest part of the sentence? nahitaji ufafanuzi zaidi kutoka kwako.
Askari Kanzu
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Well, try to do a simple Google search and see whether you are right or wrong on this!
kadoda11
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hahaha mie sibanduki hapa.nasubiri ule mpambano toka side A uhamie side B.
Reginald12
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The goat is the subject because that is what the rest of the sentence is talking about. The hyena is optional in that sentence since in a passive sentence the focus is on the action rather than the 'doer'. If you lost your phone you would say, 'My phone has been stolen' if you don't know who did it but use an active sentence if you did -'Tom stole my phone'. The phone is the subject of the first sentence and Tom is the subject of the second.
Ab-Titchaz
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Heri yako...sisi kwetu 'amu twasema "kidhungu 'nkulegeza ulimi eti'"