The so called 'GOD' from religions

[Mish Albert]

Exactly, 'God' is found through revelation, not philosophy nor methodology.

So why did you make such sweeping statement that,God is merely an Idea and not real?
Are you believing in God in the first place?

 

[mtoto wa mjini]

So why did you make such sweeping statement that,God is merely Idea and not real?
Are you believing in God in the first place?

I believe in God as an idea.By the way what's/who's God to you?

 

[Mish Albert]

I believe in God as an idea.By the way what's/who's God to you?

In my own view,God is more than an Idea
He is simply a creater of reality,sustainer and ruler of our cosmos

I have asked you,why do you think God is merely an idea?
What's your definition of God?

 

[mtoto wa mjini]

God is an idea,because he/it can be a cow,a mountain, the sun,energy, mind,it just depends on your level of comprehension.

 

[Mish Albert]

God is an idea,because he/it can be a cow,a mountain, the sun,energy, mind,it just depends on your level of comprehension.

You have it backward chief

God is not substantive entity,God is omnipotent,omnipresent,and omnibenevolent king of the universe

And only one God exists
Abrahamic God[Jehovah or Allah]

 

[mtoto wa mjini]

I want to know who is God exactly. You have just described the qualities of the so called God. Is the God of Hindu and Muslim the same?

 

[Mish Albert]

I want to know who is God exactly. You have just described the qualities of the so called God. Is the God of Hindu and Muslim the same?

The qualities of God reveal his true essence
We are grouping Gods based on their nature

God of hindu mythology is quite unlike God of Judeo-christians or Muslims

If God lack any of those qualities,then by definition he,she,or it is not God at all

In the nutshell,our conception of God rests on those bizarre qualities.

 

[mtoto wa mjini]

Ahahaaaa bizarre qualities. Back to philosophy. So God can be explained through philosophy right?

 

[Mish Albert]

Ahahaaaa bizarre qualities. Back to philosophy. So God can be explained through philosophy right?

Why are you laughing chief,was it ridiculous?

Yap,God can be explained by philosophy of religions

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

In my own view,God is more than an Idea
He is simply a creater of reality,sustainer and ruler of our cosmos

I see you are really into mythologies...

 

[mtoto wa mjini]

Why are you laughing chief,was it ridiculous?

Yap,God can be explained in philosophy of religions

But any philosophy is just an attempt to explain the nature of a subject in question.So even the philosophy of religion is not the only authority in explaining 'God'.

 

[Mish Albert]

I see you are really into mythologies...

Nope,I'm quite deep into mysticism

You know what Ngabu,nature displays the beautiful symmetrical patterns and order

To me,complexity of nature alone serve as evidence for existence of intelligent designer.Life is too complex to have happen by chance

Existence of the universe which obey mathematical laws is still most profound mystery

It's quite hard,to imagine the life without God,Ngabu!

 

[Kiranga]

Nope,I'm quite deep into mysticism

You know what Ngabu,nature displays the beautiful symmetrical patterns and order

To me,complexity of nature alone serve as evidence for existence of intelligent designer.Life is too complex to have happen by chance

Existence of the universe which obey mathematical laws is still most profound mystery

It's quite hard,to imagine the life without God,Ngabu!

If a designer is necessary for complexity, wouldn't that designer be more complex than the designed?

And if that designer is even more complex than the designed, and a designer is necessary for complexity as mentioned above, wouldn't that designer need a designer? And that designer's designer need a designer ad absurdum ad infinitum ?

The entire concept is boggled down by an infinity of absurdities.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

To me,complexity of nature alone serve as evidence for existence of intelligent designer.Life is too complex to have happen by chance

And that intelligent designer is...? God?

But how can an 'intelligent designer' create something so complex and not simple and orderly?

What was his motive?

Be that as it may, I don't think complexity serves as evidence of existence of a higher power, or intelligent designer as you put it.

It rather shows and suggests the lack thereof.....

 

[Mish Albert]

But any philosophy is just an attempt to explain the nature of a subject in question.So even the philosophy of religion is not the only authority in explaining 'God'.

You cannot examine the nature of God out of philosophy of religions
Can you?

 

[Mish Albert]

And that intelligent designer is...? God?

Yah,He is God by definition

But how can an 'intelligent designer' create something so complex and not simple and orderly?

What exactly you mean by 'simple and orderly
'?

Anyway,the universe is complex but yet laws of nature are so simple

What was his motive?

I guess,the major purpose of God's creation
is simply to show his profound love to us

Be that as it may, I don't think complexity serves as evidence of existence of a higher power, or intelligent designer as you put it.

It rather shows and suggests the lack thereof.....

How can mindless mechanism,produce intelligent and higher forms of life?

Is natural selection only plausible explanation?

 

[Ramesh Topiwalla]

Hahaha u Idol worshiper need to wake up..this is beyond stupidity.

Who is your Idol? Jesus Christ or Prophet Mohammed?

 

[Mish Albert]

And if that designer is even more complex than the designed, and a designer is necessary for complexity as mentioned above, wouldn't that designer need a designer?And that designer's designer need a designer ad absurdum ad infinitum?

The highlighted question is illogical

Is illogical from the fact that,God cannot be designed by definition

If God is uncaused cause of everything,how then can he be caused?

It's like asking that,"To whom bachelor is married?

That's absurd

The entire concept is boggled down by an infinity of absurdities
You have tried to show the flaw in my argument
But you have not answered where complexity came from.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Yah,He is God by definition[

Gotcha.

What exactly you mean by 'simple and orderly
'?

By that I mean free of natural disasters, struggles, inequalities, disparities, subjugation, etc.

Anyway,the universe is complex but yet laws of nature are so simple

So because it is complex therefore it has to be created by god?

I guess,the major purpose of God's creation
is simply to show his profound love to us

What kind of love is that when he created a world where natural disasters and other calamities are possible?

You wouldn't want your child [if you have one] to suffer anything bad, would you?

Why wouldn't you? Because you love him/ her, right?

So why the hell would god create a world where honor killings are possible? Where tsunamis are possible? Where slavery is possible? Where the zika virus exists?

I mean, where is the love? Or what kind of love is that?

Does he enjoy seeing babies born with those funny looking heads?

Why did he create a world where famine is possible? Where kids starve so bad that they become food for vultures?

When you think of things like that, don't you ever take a pause and ask yourself if god really exists and if he does, was his purpose of creation really his profound love for us?

How can mindless mechanism,produce intelligent and higher forms of life?

Where did you get that?

Is natural selection only plausible explanation?

I honestly don't know but I know this much - the whole god thing just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Mish Albert]

By that I mean free of natural disasters, struggles, inequalities, disparities, subjugation, etc.

My guess is that,such kind of world would be so bored
than today world

How could one enjoy the success if suffering did not exist?

So because it is complex therefore it has to be created by god?

That's is only rational and plausible
explanation

What kind of love is that when he created a world where natural disasters and other calamities are possible?

You wouldn't want your child [if you have one] to suffer anything bad, would you?

Why wouldn't you? Because you love him/ her, right?

So why the hell would god create a world where honor killings are possible? Where tsunamis are possible?

Natural disasters such as tsunami or earth quakes are not evil at all Ngabu

The planet that is 100% stable,is geologically uninhabitable planet

We are living on this unstable planet as consequence of our forefather's sins