This election is not about Lowassa, It is about us

[GHIBUU]

Ujumbe wangu ni kuwa huu uchaguzi unatuhusu sisi zaidi ya unavyomhusu Lowassa....kwamba CCM wanatumia mbinu nyingi kufanya tutumie mda mwingi kufikiria kuhusu 'mapungufu' ya Lowassa zaidi ya kuchambua kati ya sera za UKAWA na CCM zipi bora...sera za CCM zitakazoenda kuendelezwa na Magufuli hazijafanikiwa kuondoa umaskini, kwanini tusichague sera mpya?

Uchaguzi huu unahusu njia sahihi ya sisi kuelekea, kwa maana hiyo, hiyo ni muhimu zaidi kuliko uchaguzi wa wanasiasa na vyama vya siasa....

cc: limited

Nadhani haya maneno ni ya kuwaeleza wananchi, hao ccm walio baki nao watajitambua.

 

[yero]

We cool yero ...
..you're right on the money...I hope people understand this's it for us for the next 5 yrs, so if we mess up? We're screwed for another 5 yrs, and we should keep in mind that we've been screwed for quite sometime now, 50+ yrs to be exact, I hope people understand that after October 25 there's no turning back, I hope we understand that we...are one bad decision away...from maisha duni kwa MTanzania if we vote ccm back

They should know that we are not waiting for some other person or some other time, this is the time we have been waiting for. It seems Ccm has ran out of peaceful methods to convince Tanzanians to vote for them. Instilling fear of the unknown is not working anymore and now the President has issued ill adviced threats to dwarf the opposition.

Politicians are peculiar, so his polls are what, 99.9% correct?!, and I guess he's talking about the, hang-in-there mood at Lumumba where everyone is holding onto a brown paper bag. He need to see the mood of people out of Lumumba. I was suprised by January's move when he backed one of the odd policies for our country, a cyber law act. That law is so Yesterday. It's something you'd least expect from a western-educated fine young man. Imagine those are kind of decisions ccm is making for our country which can not even stand on its own feet, no wonder he's still holding on to the old ccm, hope he don't realize when it's already too late that he's on the wrong side of history.

May be he is talking of Twaweza polls. The only team which will look into the weaknesses of our laws is the opposition.

It is not hard to see that what Ccm is preaching on the outside is not what they believe on the inside. Privately they tend to admit that they will or might loose this election. Publicly they tend to force victory.

 

[yero]

UKAWA will not listen to or study anything that opposes their corporate master's narrative. But If you take the time to listen to Magufuli speeches, you will find that he is for the middle class and lower class, of which I am one and many of us. I don't believe most of what the other candidates especially Lowassa say as most of them are for the rich top 10%, Magufuli is not one of them.

We have Magufuli's pledges up to now costing us Tsh. 63 Trillion compared to Tsh. 28 Trillion for Lowassa. That can tell you whose ideas can work and who you should spend your time listening to.

We have had decades listening to CCM and that has brought us a sluggish economic development. Why should we take in more pledges from CCM while they haven't fullfilled a lot of what they promised five or ten years ago?

Between a guy intending to offer free education to university level and the other preaching of making education free to ordinary secondary school, who has the middle and lower class at his heart?

 

[kui]

UKAWA will not listen to or study anything that opposes their corporate master's narrative. But If you take the time to listen to Magufuli speeches, you will find that he is for the middle class and lower class, of which I am one and many of us. I don't believe most of what the other candidates especially Lowassa say as most of them are for the rich top 10%, Magufuli is not one of them.

Magufuli might be not one of the rich top 10% but I bet his boss is, and I don't think Magufuli will act or work against his boss wishes, the boss is heading out but we all know he's going to somehow have the say in their party. Now how will that make any difference from this administration!, Magufuli is not going to work against his fellow ccms.

 

[kui]

They should know that we are not waiting for some other person or some other time, this is the time we have been waiting for. It seems Ccm has ran out of peaceful methods to convince Tanzanians to vote for them. Instilling fear of the unknown is not working anymore and now the President has issued ill adviced threats to dwarf the opposition...

It is not hard to see that what Ccm is preaching on the outside is not what they believe on the inside. Privately they tend to admit that they will or might loose this election. Publicly they tend to force victory.

When you start creating fear to your own people (a la presidaa) it shows the world how you're desperately struggling, and how low you've gotten to win their hearts. I'm not suprised by his ill adviced threats, he's fighting tooth and nail to make sure ccm keep Ikulu cuz if they lose and go down the drain under his watch!, That will be his legacy.

 

[Mwaipungu]

Jamani what's happening in our country please give me feedback

 

[yero]

Jamani what's happening in our country please give me feedback

Kikwete cannot believe his own eyes that he is soon going to join Mwinyi na Mkapa's crew. He is now thinking about the fact that CCM is going down.

 

[yero]

Nothing positive seams rather than apparent. How can you spend Tsh. 28 Trillion for five years. They can throw as little figures at us as they like. But Tsh. 63 Trillion and its derivatives under the control of a wise man, it will be better for Tanzanian government.

A lot has been said about how Magufuli's decisions has cost our public finance. But that's not the point, the point is, we already have failed promises dating back in 2005 in store .

How will he raise the funds necessary to finance his false projects while the government currently owes the contractors in the infrastructure sector at least Tsh. 900 Billion in build up fines and penalties, something that he has everything to do with.

An amount of Tsh. 63 Trillion is not an end figure, you can expect more because the campaign is still in progress. Tell us how he'll foot both the costs brought forward and the additional new costs.

We are going to have Magufuli as a president. We all know what he did as a minister when Lowassa and Kikwete were in the same party, CCM. Nothing is going to stop him as a president. Hapa Ni Kazi Tu.!!

Magufuli is in the wrong place at the wrong time. CCM's time is up. The good thing is that a significant number of top CCM members are privately beginning to concede defeat. It's only a stubborn and nutty tick that would stick on the skin of a dying cow.

The major difference between these men is that; John Magufuli is a realistic and Edward Lowassa is an idealistic. So Magufuli is more interesting than Lowasa.

People are not looking for an interesting candidate instead they've found somebody who in conjuction with his team can get the work done. Magufuli is CCM and CCM is Magufuli, he can't detach himself from CCM.

How is Tsh. 63+ Trillion worth of campaign promises realistic? Lowassa on the other side is creative, courageous and willing. Nobody should support someone with a long record of poor decisions.

 

[yero]

When you start creating fear to your own people (a la presidaa) it shows the world how you're desperately struggling, and how low you've gotten to win their hearts. I'm not suprised by his ill adviced threats, he's fighting tooth and nail to make sure ccm keep Ikulu cuz if they lose and go down the drain under his watch!, That will be his legacy.

Speaking about the legacy!! I don't see what I should remember him with. He was busy making money with his prodigal son in the state house thinking that 2015 would just be the same as 2005 or 2010. Now he is panicing.

If he wants to be remembered for years to come, he should just relax and let us vote peacefully without his intrusion and rigging such that those who legitimately win become our next leaders including Lowassa. By the way, that also includes allowing people to wait for the results.

 

[kui]

Kikwete cannot believe his own eyes that he is soon going to join Mwinyi na Mkapa's crew. He is now thinking about the fact that CCM is going down.

The most longest ruling party in Africa going down under his watch and that's what he's going to be remembered for?!,...I doubt he's getting any sleep this week.
It's a matter of days but I think he's counting down hours, he said it before that he couldn't wait to step down cause presidency is a stressful job and Tanzanians are thankless.

https://www.jamiiforums.com/politic...g-a-president-is-stressful-and-thankless.html

 

[yero]

The most longest ruling party in Africa going down under his watch and that's what he's going to be remembered for?!,...I doubt he's getting any sleep this week.
It's a matter of days but I think he’s counting down hours, he said it before that he couldn't wait to step down cause presidency is a stressful job and Tanzanians are thankless.

How can we be thankful while we have witnessed how our taxes have been misused and squandered by himself and his team? How can we be thankful while he hasn't delivered on more than 50% of his own campaign promises?

We have had a WEAK and POOR leadership under Kiwete. We can't be thankful for that. Leadership has never been for those seeking fame and riches.

The guy thought Presidency was a luxurious job, travelling across the world, being revered by people. That post is like a CEO post, people need to see progress. That's all.

 

[kui]

How can we be thankful while we have witnessed how our taxes have been misused and squandered by himself and his team? How can we be thankful while he hasn't delivered on more than 50% of his own campaign promises?

We have had a WEAK and POOR leadership under Kiwete. We can't be thankful for that. Leadership has never been for those seeking fame and riches.

The guy thought Presidency was a luxurious job, travelling across the world, being revered by people. That post is like a CEO post, people need to see progress. That's all.

The last para is exactly what he's been doing, (kula bata) while the country is in a terrible situation and as you've mentioned presidency is like a CEO job but ours is a failed CEO and he still have guts to say that we're not thankful. Him and his ccm friends took whatever they wanted from this country. They care less about wananchi who give them the job to begin with, and they want to keep passing it to each other, do you think they give a rat's azz about a common mwananchi?!, and some people still want to vote for it back, ccm ina wenyewe.

He's in a different world than many Tanzanians, he doesn't see it as a problem, cause he don't spend hours in traffic, he's not worried about his bank a/c, or his kids struggling to go to college because of the tuition fee, ten years was enough for him to "accumulate" he's worried about nothing, nada, and that's why he said he's leaving office a happy man. He's ALL SET!

 

[Janjaweed]

This election is about us, people and realization on how powerful we are!!

Intimidation, fraud, bribes etc. wont buy us this time.... for the first time, voters will decide

Whoever, wins, it is the voters who will decide

 

[Jack Daniel's]

I know you directed these statements to yero...however I wish to share my thoughts a little bit...

I sincerely hope you don't have the temerity to call yourself a mkombozi party. You ridiculed the CCM of Magufuli and championed the UKAWA of Lowassa. You tried to shift the center ground to the left. But currently, we're discussing about the present general election and not the past. Lets face these two contestants, not Kikwete failures because ain't belong to him.

When George Bush led Americans to an economic recession prior to 2008, they decided to replaced his party....McCain was not even one of his Secretaries.

While the debate was between Obama and McCain, Bush's failures had cost McCain heavily in that election....Kikwete's failures is a higher bill that Magufuli can't foot.....

This is a rather terrible explanation. It is a complicated comment and you use vague language to breeze over important details. But Magufuli is going to fix it very much for elaborating this seemingly simple process, from being complicated one on your side.

Why hasn't he been able to fix the problem that happened in his Ministry while he is still the Minister responsible?.....

It's simple arithmetic, if our budget is atleast Tshs. 15 trillion. For five years we're going to have more than Tshs. 75 trillion. So what is your problem with that.??

There is no way national budgets can grow by 100% annually, it is unrealistic and utopian....kindly get some basics in economics to help you wrap your brain around that....

teh teh teh has anyone noticed that farage never actually inhales the smoke from his fag.?? In fact I'm pretty sure he never even takes a drag. That is tedious process of a bunch of parasites trying their hardest to force Tanzanians in to submission to vote for them. October 25th is the day the people are not going to vote for the most convincing liar.

The only bloodsuckers we know are coloured in green.....we know that beyond reasonable doubt from Escrow, EPA, Fake Ferryboat, Fake rail cars, Fake locomotives, Radar, Mwananchi Gold, you name it.....

Lowassa is not CHADEMA and CHADEMA is not UKAWA, so Lowassa is not UKAWA. He is a master mind controller who holds some opposition politicians to maintain his status. The seed you sow is what you reap, this shows how UKAWA team is and messed up coalitions tainted with bribery and finagling.

Magufuli is CCM by his membership and CCM will be a party basing its policies on sustainability not endless growth. Then this party will be different under Magufuli, because it will be going in different direction which will be not down the hill to oblivion.

Lowassa is CDM by membership. CDM is Ukawa, I don't see why you picked this......Supporters of the old party like you shouldn't preach about what will happen, instead, try to praise what has happened.....

Thanks for explaining a convoluted question in simple term. He is so articulate, clear and profound about our government and general condition as we experience it as a nation. There are many domestic issues that Magufuli is going to fix for five years, such as health care, education, government transparency, social security, economy, unemployment, income gap, poverty, energy, infrastructures and many other.

Going to fix? Which party created what needs fixing?.....

"Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them"

 

[Jack Daniel's]

Thanks for explaining a convoluted question in simple term. He is so articulate, clear and profound about our government and general condition as we experience it as a nation. There are many domestic issues that Magufuli is going to fix for five years, such as health care, education, government transparency, social security, economy, unemployment, income gap, poverty, energy, infrastructures and many other.

Priority number one is education, number two is education and number three is education.

Why has CCM failed to fix the problems you've listed and many others for all those decades?

 

[Jack Daniel's]

This election is about us, people and realization on how powerful we are!!

Intimidation, fraud, bribes etc. wont buy us this time.... for the first time, voters will decide

Whoever, wins, it is the voters who will decide

Lets hope the 'handball goal' will not be scored....

CCM cannot lose without a fight and CDM cannot win easily....I commend CDM because they've actively disclosed publicly CCM's vote rigging plans....ultimately to ensure that every vote is counted, no vote is lost and no fake votes are added.

Make no mistake, respecting the voice of the voters is 'an' historical challenge to democracy in Tanzania....

 

[kui]

Lets hope the 'handball goal' will not be scored....

CCM cannot lose without a fight and CDM cannot win easily....I commend CDM because they've actively disclosed publicly CCM's vote rigging plans....ultimately to ensure that every vote is counted, no vote is lost and no fake votes are added.

Make no mistake, respecting the voice of the voters is 'an' historical challenge to democracy in Tanzania....

...are they really still planning on goli la mkono up to this moment?!,...wow!

CCM ain't playing when it comes to madaraka huh!, we need to be careful people. If they can shower people with gifts while campaigning, but then, grab back the gifts from the same people if they loose? (true story)...wont be wrong to say CCM's wacky.
Thing is they messed up big time to the point it's kind of hard to even have an Iota of trust in them. They've been known to fudge the issues, they might as well cry foul and pretend to be victims...

 

[Jack Daniel's]

...are they really still planning on goli la mkono up to this moment?!,...wow!

CCM ain't playing when it comes to madaraka huh!, we need to be careful people. If they can shower people with gifts while campaigning, but then, grab back the gifts from the same people if they loose? (true story)...wont be wrong to say CCM's wacky.
Thing is they messed up big time to the point it's kind of hard to even have an Iota of trust in them. They've been known to fudge the issues, they might as well cry foul and pretend to be victims...

I couldn't concur with you more...

There is a controversial number of 22 million voters who are eligible to cast their ballots on Sunday....opposition have threatened to boycott the vote, pointing out some queries not fully addressed by NEC..such as:

* Why some people eligible to vote haven't seen their names in the polling stations.....

* Why would the registration numbers of some voters' IDs differ from that in the NEC's database?....

* We don't know how many people are in the additional second list of people whose names are neither in the original dabase nor in the first additional list. ..

* There is this thick cloud sorrounding the software intended to be used for tallying votes by NEC....

* Flaws in the NEC's database of voters including photos of people appearing more than once, names of men in pictures of women....

* NEC's thwarting of oath taking exercise of some opposition's extra or sub-agents who are supposed to handle agency duties in case of emergencies.....

Nevertheless this election is already marred by intimidation and fraud..and may be far from free and fair...CCM has a strategy of systematically cracking down the opposition and now they're intending to disrupt the vote....

 

[yero]

I sincerely hope you don't have the temerity to call yourself a mkombozi party. You ridiculed the CCM of Magufuli and championed the UKAWA of Lowassa. You tried to shift the center ground to the left. But currently, we're discussing about the present general election and not the past. Lets face these two contestants, not Kikwete failures because ain't belong to him.

We are analysing Magufuli by what he and his boss have done together over the last decade or so. Why should we exempt his boss who he was directly reporting to? You want him to avoid Kikwete's failures yet he is embracing his so called successes!!!!

This is a rather terrible explanation. It is a complicated comment and you use vague language to breeze over important details. But Magufuli is going to fix it very much for elaborating this seemingly simple process, from being complicated one on your side.

Has he failed to solve it as a Minister (incumbent)?

It's simple arithmetic, if our budget is atleast Tshs. 15 trillion. For five years we're going to have more than Tshs. 75 trillion. So what is your problem with that.??

How do you know we can hit Tsh. 75 trillion annual budget in five years time? Do you have anything to back up your claim?

teh teh teh has anyone noticed that farage never actually inhales the smoke from his fag.?? In fact I'm pretty sure he never even takes a drag. That is tedious process of a bunch of parasites trying their hardest to force Tanzanians in to submission to vote for them. October 25th is the day the people are not going to vote for the most convincing liar.

That's true. Because people are tired to be lied to every five years by CCM. They want to see progress and they've decided that it is time for change.

Lowassa is not CHADEMA and CHADEMA is not UKAWA, so Lowassa is not UKAWA. He is a master mind controller who holds some opposition politicians to maintain his status. The seed you sow is what you reap, this shows how UKAWA team is and messed up coalitions tainted with bribery and finagling.

Magufuli is CCM by his membership and CCM will be a party basing its policies on sustainability not endless growth. Then this party will be different under Magufuli, because it will be going in different direction which will be not down the hill to oblivion.

You guys can fix your party even without Magufuli as the President, you only need committment.

Unfortunately, it is CCM's policies that have brought us here onto this economic cliff. KANU might have known something about oblivion.

Thanks for explaining a convoluted question in simple term. He is so articulate, clear and profound about our government and general condition as we experience it as a nation. There are many domestic issues that Magufuli is going to fix for five years, such as health care, education, government transparency, social security, economy, unemployment, income gap, poverty, energy, infrastructures and many other.

Going to do this and that!!! What about what you've done? It is not CCM (ruling party) but CDM that should say more about what they will do when choosen.

 

[Sonko Jr.]

I couldn't concur with you more...

There is a controversial number of 22 million voters who are eligible to cast their ballots on Sunday....opposition have threatened to boycott the vote, pointing out some queries not fully addressed by NEC..such as:

* Why some people eligible to vote haven't seen their names in the polling stations.....

* Why would the registration numbers of some voters' IDs differ from that in the NEC's database?....

* We don't know how many people are in the additional second list of people whose names are neither in the original dabase nor in the first additional list. ..

* There is this thick cloud sorrounding the software intended to be used for tallying votes by NEC....

* Flaws in the NEC's database of voters including photos of people appearing more than once, names of men in pictures of women....

* NEC's thwarting of oath taking exercise of some opposition's extra or sub-agents who are supposed to handle agency duties in case of emergencies.....

Nevertheless this election is already marred by intimidation and fraud..and may be far from free and fair...CCM has a strategy of systematically cracking down the opposition and now they're intending to disrupt the vote....

I knew since the beginning that BVR is going to have some problems. It could be a deliberate attempt by NEC to try to steal some votes or simply technical problems that experts in NEC cannot solve.

We have to understand that our NEC's BVR is not perfect or even close to perfect. We have to make sure that we're around the polling stations to protect our votes. By being around, our agents will feel safe and can immediately report to us about any evil attempts to rig the votes. By going home we are giving rooms for such acts.

I still believe though that if many of us turn out to vote on Sunday in large numbers, Lowassa will win and become the fifth President because the odds are in our favour.