Three Ugandan Choppers go missing in Kenyan Airspace!

Three Ugandan Choppers go missing in Kenyan Airspace!

Kwani wote wamelelewa kupiga kelele kwenye kila kitu kinachoendelea kwenye maisha? Ukimya ule unasema zaidi kuliko maneno maneno mengi yasiyo na tija. Na nani kakwambia Uganda is incapable of taking on Kenya? Don't make that mistake of underestimating something that you do not know. You might know how many choppers they have, but it could be difficult to assess the passion to teach each other a lesson in the battlefield terrain. America knows it better during Vietnam war.

hahaha....this one i will disregard with no further comment. Ugandas capabilities are well known, the disadvantage of being landlocked. (NOT IMPORTANT IN THIS CONTEXT)
Question is, who doesnt talk when her fighting gears are supposedly brought down according to your line of thought, worse by a friendly state? It is an act of aggression, an act of undermining another state, bullying our biggest trade partner. Dont tell me its being a gentleman #NEVER HAPPENS! service corps in Uganda would have been so uneasy and rebuking Museveni for inaction and putting her state to unwarranted shame.
 
Allah Allah why have you forsaken me?

Hayo maneno wengi wanayajuwa ni ya nani, nae aliijuwa maana ya "Allahu Akbar".

i have some TnT left, come i strap you.....TOA UDINI HAPA!!!!!
 
hahaha....this one i will disregard with no further comment. Ugandas capability are well known, the disadvantage of being landlocked. (NOT IMPORTANT IN THIS CONTEXT)
Question is, who doesnt talk when her fighting gears are supposedly brought down according to your line of thought, worse by a friendly state? It is an act of aggression, an act of undermining another state, bullying our biggest trade partner. Dont tell me its being a gentleman #NEVER HAPPENS! service corps in Uganda would have been so uneasy and rebuking Museveni for inaction and putting her state to unwarranted shame.

Haya bwana vita haina macho. Ikitua nyumbani kwako ndo utajua livefire inaweza kuwa deadfire
 
Haya bwana vita haina macho. Ikitua nyumbani kwako ndo utajua livefire inaweza kuwa deadfire

thats why Militaries were made. A cadre of individuals with a license to kill, a dedicated force with one assignment: preserve sovereignity of their individual nations under oath. ASHU...PEACE WILL PREVAIL!
THE CHOPPERS ARE AU machinery, they will be replaced eventually but to the fallen RIP, for the injured quick recovery. The eleven surviving crew have answers to some of your suppositions. They will talk eventually, its no SECRET.
 
thats why Militaries were made. A cadre of individuals with a license to kill, a dedicated force with one assignment: preserve sovereignity of their individual nations under oath. ASHU...PEACE WILL PREVAIL!
THE CHOPPERS ARE AU machinery, they will be replaced eventually but to the fallen RIP, for the injured quick recovery. The eleven surviving crew have answers to some of your suppositions. They will talk eventually, its no SECRET.
Ooooh! That comes to my relief...maana better a living coward than a fallen hero.
 
Again, you've drawn a straight line from the middle of Nanyuki town, I've been there, there's no airstrip in the middle of town. Why don't you find out which airstrip they took off from, where it is relative to the mountain, what the normal flight path from that airstrip towards Wajir is before making such insinuations...little tip, most flights are not planned using google earth and a ruler.

FYI The point you see on the map is Nanyuki/Laikipai Airbase (0.06116060N Latitude, 36.8605E Longitude). This is where the choppers took-off for the last time....Look below:
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You lack of mathematical comprehension is beyond disbelief....:hat:
 
FYI The point you see on the map is Nanyuki/Laikipai Airbase (0.06116060N Latitude, 36.8605E Longitude). This is where the choppers took-off for the last time....Look below:
7837443370_7e96491e82.jpg

You lack of mathematical comprehension is beyond disbelief....:hat:

Ugandans say they didn't use LAB, KAF says the same...where are you getting this "fact"?
 
teh teh teh...Kwani nyie mko kwenye sayari ya mars inayofanyiwa utafiti sasa? Mkifikiri hamjulikani mnajidanganya wenyewe...

Mkuu usipoteze muda kulumbana na huyu Nairoberry - wasikilize watu wenye varied points kama Livefire. Nairoberry anazungumzaga kinacho mjia KICHWANI! Is just a buffoon.
 
Good question, lets leave it here for now....:hat:

so tell us a little about JWTZ since you know alot about jeshi la kenya you must know everything about jeshi la tanzania if not being a five star general there. anyway this is what i gathered from Wikipedia about jeshi la tanzania

ARMY

Much of the inventory is in storage or unreliable.[SUP][2][/SUP]


  • 5 × infantry brigade
  • 1 × tank brigade
  • 3 × artillery battalion
  • 2 × air defence artillery battalion
  • 1 × mortar battalion
  • 2 × anti-tank battalion
  • 121st Engineer Regiment (battalion size; unit identification from usaraf.army.mil and Flickr)
  • 1 × central logistic/support group
Current senior officers include:



AIRWING
A few of the Tanzanian air wing's transport remain serviceable. However, its Shenyang F-5s, and Chengdu F-7s are reported to fly rarely because of airworthiness problems.[SUP][3][/SUP] Tanzania's long coastline means that transports are also used for patrol flights.
In Tanzania, early 1980s; Contrary to what is usually reported, Tanzania never purchased any J-7Is from China. Instead, the Jeshi La Wananchi La Tanzania (Tanzanian People's Defence Force Air Wing, TPDF/AW) was given 14 MiG-21MFs and two MiG-21Us by the USSR in 1974. Many of these were lost in different accidents due to the poor training, and two were said to have been lost when their pilots defected. Nevertheless, the few surviving examples took part in the war against Uganda, in 1978-1979, when they saw much action, even if one was shot down in a case of fratricide fire (it was lost to SA-7s fired by Tanzanian troops). The Tanzanian Army captured seven MiG-21MFs and one MiG-21U trainer from the Ugandan Air Force, as well as a considerable amount of spare parts. All of these were flown out to Mwanza AB, to enter service with the TPDF/AW. In 1998, Tanzania purchased four additional MiG-21MFs from the Ukraine, but these were reportedly in a very poor shape, and not used very often. Meanwhile, in 1980, an order for 10 F-7Bs and two TF-7s was issued to China, and in 1997 also two F-7Ns were purchased from Iran, together with four ex-Iraqi Air Force transports of an unknown type. Today, no Russian-supplied MiG-21s remain in service with the TPDF/AW, and only three or four F-7s remain operational. The TPDF/AW MiG-21MFs are now confirmed to have carried serials - in black or green - underneath the cockpit, but no details about these are known

NOW SURELY DOES TZ HAVE A SINGLE FIGHTER ???

NAVAL
The navy operates 7 fast attack craft and 12 patrol boats.

The current Commander of the Naval Command: is Rear Admiral (Maj Gen) SS Omar.

Tanzania People's Defence Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
so tell us a little about JWTZ since you know alot about jeshi la kenya you must know everything about jeshi la tanzania if not being a five star general there. anyway this is what i gathered from Wikipedia about jeshi la tanzania

ARMY

Much of the inventory is in storage or unreliable.[SUP][2][/SUP]


  • 5 × infantry brigade
  • 1 × tank brigade
  • 3 × artillery battalion
  • 2 × air defence artillery battalion
  • 1 × mortar battalion
  • 2 × anti-tank battalion
  • 121st Engineer Regiment (battalion size; unit identification from usaraf.army.mil and Flickr)
  • 1 × central logistic/support group
Current senior officers include:



AIRWING
A few of the Tanzanian air wing's transport remain serviceable. However, its Shenyang F-5s, and Chengdu F-7s are reported to fly rarely because of airworthiness problems.[SUP][3][/SUP] Tanzania's long coastline means that transports are also used for patrol flights.
In Tanzania, early 1980s; Contrary to what is usually reported, Tanzania never purchased any J-7Is from China. Instead, the Jeshi La Wananchi La Tanzania (Tanzanian People's Defence Force Air Wing, TPDF/AW) was given 14 MiG-21MFs and two MiG-21Us by the USSR in 1974. Many of these were lost in different accidents due to the poor training, and two were said to have been lost when their pilots defected. Nevertheless, the few surviving examples took part in the war against Uganda, in 1978-1979, when they saw much action, even if one was shot down in a case of fratricide fire (it was lost to SA-7s fired by Tanzanian troops). The Tanzanian Army captured seven MiG-21MFs and one MiG-21U trainer from the Ugandan Air Force, as well as a considerable amount of spare parts. All of these were flown out to Mwanza AB, to enter service with the TPDF/AW. In 1998, Tanzania purchased four additional MiG-21MFs from the Ukraine, but these were reportedly in a very poor shape, and not used very often. Meanwhile, in 1980, an order for 10 F-7Bs and two TF-7s was issued to China, and in 1997 also two F-7Ns were purchased from Iran, together with four ex-Iraqi Air Force transports of an unknown type. Today, no Russian-supplied MiG-21s remain in service with the TPDF/AW, and only three or four F-7s remain operational. The TPDF/AW MiG-21MFs are now confirmed to have carried serials - in black or green - underneath the cockpit, but no details about these are known

NOW SURELY DOES TZ HAVE A SINGLE FIGHTER ???

NAVAL
The navy operates 7 fast attack craft and 12 patrol boats.

The current Commander of the Naval Command: is Rear Admiral (Maj Gen) SS Omar.

Tanzania People's Defence Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Teh teh teh...you want to be misled?
 
so tell us a little about JWTZ since you know alot about jeshi la kenya you must know everything about jeshi la tanzania if not being a five star general there. anyway this is what i gathered from Wikipedia about jeshi la tanzania

ARMY

Much of the inventory is in storage or unreliable.[SUP][2][/SUP]


  • 5 × infantry brigade
  • 1 × tank brigade
  • 3 × artillery battalion
  • 2 × air defence artillery battalion
  • 1 × mortar battalion
  • 2 × anti-tank battalion
  • 121st Engineer Regiment (battalion size; unit identification from usaraf.army.mil and Flickr)
  • 1 × central logistic/support group
Current senior officers include:



AIRWING
A few of the Tanzanian air wing's transport remain serviceable. However, its Shenyang F-5s, and Chengdu F-7s are reported to fly rarely because of airworthiness problems.[SUP][3][/SUP] Tanzania's long coastline means that transports are also used for patrol flights.
In Tanzania, early 1980s; Contrary to what is usually reported, Tanzania never purchased any J-7Is from China. Instead, the Jeshi La Wananchi La Tanzania (Tanzanian People's Defence Force Air Wing, TPDF/AW) was given 14 MiG-21MFs and two MiG-21Us by the USSR in 1974. Many of these were lost in different accidents due to the poor training, and two were said to have been lost when their pilots defected. Nevertheless, the few surviving examples took part in the war against Uganda, in 1978-1979, when they saw much action, even if one was shot down in a case of fratricide fire (it was lost to SA-7s fired by Tanzanian troops). The Tanzanian Army captured seven MiG-21MFs and one MiG-21U trainer from the Ugandan Air Force, as well as a considerable amount of spare parts. All of these were flown out to Mwanza AB, to enter service with the TPDF/AW. In 1998, Tanzania purchased four additional MiG-21MFs from the Ukraine, but these were reportedly in a very poor shape, and not used very often. Meanwhile, in 1980, an order for 10 F-7Bs and two TF-7s was issued to China, and in 1997 also two F-7Ns were purchased from Iran, together with four ex-Iraqi Air Force transports of an unknown type. Today, no Russian-supplied MiG-21s remain in service with the TPDF/AW, and only three or four F-7s remain operational. The TPDF/AW MiG-21MFs are now confirmed to have carried serials - in black or green - underneath the cockpit, but no details about these are known

NOW SURELY DOES TZ HAVE A SINGLE FIGHTER ???

NAVAL
The navy operates 7 fast attack craft and 12 patrol boats.

The current Commander of the Naval Command: is Rear Admiral (Maj Gen) SS Omar.

Tanzania People's Defence Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nimekwisha kwambia uwezo wako wa ku-analyse mambo huko equivalent to a toddler's!!! Angalia wenzako (sijuhi kama hata nikuite Mkenya au Mtanzania maanake wewe ni kigeu gue kama kinyonga). Jaribu kuangalia Wakenya wanao tafakali mambo kwa kina, wenye akili za kiutu uzima na wasomi/weledi wanavyo eleza maoni yao kuhusu suala zima la ajali, vile vile walivyo wekea maanani suala la usalama kuhusu Taifa lao, mtu ukisoma maoni yao unawaelewa. Wewe ni tofauti kabisa you are just a clown, wala hujuhi kinacho zungumziwa hapa! Unarukia mambo tu sijuhi unataka ku-prove nini, unapokwama unaishia kutukana WATU! - wachie wenzako wenye uelewa WAZUNGUNZE. Haya mambo ya kuandika/kutaja majina ya makamanda wa jeshi la JWTZ lina mantiki gani hapa! - yaani unachofanya ni kucopy na ku-paste bila ya kuchambanua uchukue lipi ache lipi katika uchambuzi wako, ujuhi kwamba taarifa nyingine zilizo andikwa kwenye wikipedia ni zakubuni tu wakati mwingine!! - Ukosefu wako wa ku-analyse na ku-digest mambo si wakawawida, tatizo hili liko-more pronounced kwa binadamu anaye tumia a left and right hemisphere za Brain yake at a GO.

Kila binadamu his/her maker amemjalia kiasi fulani cha talent, wewe naona Mungu wako alikupa kipaji cha maigizo/vichekesho - see, you are very good at pretending! unajitia ku-shade crocodile tears hapa, unajifanya Mkatoliki kuliko PAPA au Mwislaam kuliko mtume Mohammed S.A.W - ninacho taka kusema hapa ni kwamba wewe huna uchungu wowote wa kweli kuhusu nchi yoyote hapa barani Africa si Tanzania wala Kenya, nimekwisha sema humu wewe ni mbaguzi wa rangi uliye KUBUHU, narudia MBAGUZI WA RANGI oh yes, a RACIST BASTARD - unaona watu weusi ni takataka kwako, nina ushadi wa ku-prove hivyo nimeuweka ready to spring muda si mrefu-I will expose your TRUE COLOUR, ushahidi huo ntauweka humu alafu tuone sura yako utaificha wapi au utarudi tena Dodoma Tanzania kwa wazazi/Wajomba zako alafu udahi wewe si Mkenya bali Mtanzania!! (Je na hiyo nimeitoa kwenye wikipedia?? unafikili hatukujuhi!!)

Nakushauri kwa nia nzuri tu, kwamba uache kuwahadaa/kuwadanganya ndugu zetu wa Kenya-we kwa akili zako unafikili tunapo bishana nao kwenye masuala fulani kwa akili zako finyu unaona basi tuna Ugomvi nao au ushindani wa aina fulani!!

Ujinga ni mzigo sana, umekazania ooh, umepata taarifa kutoka Wikipedia X3, nani kakwambia kwamba source ya kupata taarifa lazima zinapatikane kutoka Wikipedia peke yake na siyo kutoka kwenye open source nyingine, au njia mbadala mbona ni nyingi tu akili kichwani mwako, usifikili kila mtu akili zake ziko kwenye chicken masala au Tandoori Chicken (Tandoori Murghi) kama wewe.

Mwisho nimalizie kwa kuonyesha wana JF baadhi ya maajabu yako :La kwaza - Siku moja kuna mwana JF mwenzetu kutoka Kenya aliwahi kukuonya kwamba ujaribu ku-mind your tongue kutokan a na maneno ambayo ulikuwa unabwabwaja humu bila mpangilio, alisema unayo yasema humu ni ya kwako lakini Wakenya wengi awakubaliani na mbinu zako hizo! :La pili - kuna siku tena ulianza mambo yako ya kitoto ukajibizana jibizana na a none nonsence MOD, alipo kupa vidonge vyako ukagwaya na kumwambia eti ungependa umpe DADA yako!!! i.e awe Shemeji yako, sina shaka unakumbuka alivyo kujibu :La tatu-juzi juzi hapa niliona mwana JF kutoka Kenya anakupa onyo kali kwamba ume-copy post yake ukajifanya niya kwako, sijuhi mlimalizana vipi? :La nne-hili ndilo linathibitisha kwa asili mia mia kwamba wewe ni mjinga kupindukia, aliandika juzi kwamba" Watu wa Kenya wana IQ kubwa sana kuliko Watanzania! hivi unajuwa maana ya IQ ni nini? wewe kwa mawazo yako unafikili IQ inakuwa acquired na siyo ya kuzaliwa nayo/kurithi(inherited)

Kuna mifano mingi tu lakini kwa leo naishia hapa nikiwa na imani kwamba uta-grow UP na kuanza kuzungumza vitu mbavyo viko coherent.
 
Cha ajabu ni kwamba moja iliyo nusurika ni chopper ya kawaida tu ya kubebea troops na haina tishio lolote kwa watu/taifa, lakini hizi tatu ambazo ni babu kubwa kwenye nyanja za kivita didn't see the light of the DAY!!!

Ni kituo gani wali refuel kwa mara ya mwisho, nani aliwashauri CREW kupitia kwenye route yenye milima mikali na equatorial forest na hali ya hewa ambayo ilikuwa mbaya sana! Hivi kazi ya ma traffic controller ni nini hasa?

Kuna tume imeundwa ngoja tusubiri matokeo yake....
 
so tell us a little about JWTZ since you know alot about jeshi la kenya you must know everything about jeshi la tanzania if not being a five star general there. anyway this is what i gathered from Wikipedia about jeshi la tanzania

ARMY

Much of the inventory is in storage or unreliable.[SUP][2][/SUP]


  • 5 × infantry brigade
  • 1 × tank brigade
  • 3 × artillery battalion
  • 2 × air defence artillery battalion
  • 1 × mortar battalion
  • 2 × anti-tank battalion
  • 121st Engineer Regiment (battalion size; unit identification from usaraf.army.mil and Flickr)
  • 1 × central logistic/support group
Current senior officers include:



AIRWING
A few of the Tanzanian air wing's transport remain serviceable. However, its Shenyang F-5s, and Chengdu F-7s are reported to fly rarely because of airworthiness problems.[SUP][3][/SUP] Tanzania's long coastline means that transports are also used for patrol flights.
In Tanzania, early 1980s; Contrary to what is usually reported, Tanzania never purchased any J-7Is from China. Instead, the Jeshi La Wananchi La Tanzania (Tanzanian People's Defence Force Air Wing, TPDF/AW) was given 14 MiG-21MFs and two MiG-21Us by the USSR in 1974. Many of these were lost in different accidents due to the poor training, and two were said to have been lost when their pilots defected. Nevertheless, the few surviving examples took part in the war against Uganda, in 1978-1979, when they saw much action, even if one was shot down in a case of fratricide fire (it was lost to SA-7s fired by Tanzanian troops). The Tanzanian Army captured seven MiG-21MFs and one MiG-21U trainer from the Ugandan Air Force, as well as a considerable amount of spare parts. All of these were flown out to Mwanza AB, to enter service with the TPDF/AW. In 1998, Tanzania purchased four additional MiG-21MFs from the Ukraine, but these were reportedly in a very poor shape, and not used very often. Meanwhile, in 1980, an order for 10 F-7Bs and two TF-7s was issued to China, and in 1997 also two F-7Ns were purchased from Iran, together with four ex-Iraqi Air Force transports of an unknown type. Today, no Russian-supplied MiG-21s remain in service with the TPDF/AW, and only three or four F-7s remain operational. The TPDF/AW MiG-21MFs are now confirmed to have carried serials - in black or green - underneath the cockpit, but no details about these are known

NOW SURELY DOES TZ HAVE A SINGLE FIGHTER ???

NAVAL
The navy operates 7 fast attack craft and 12 patrol boats.

The current Commander of the Naval Command: is Rear Admiral (Maj Gen) SS Omar.

Tanzania People's Defence Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mnacheza makida makida nyinyi
 
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