Say no more,...thats the truth btw during normall times no one cares which tribe you are maybe somalis ndo ungesema huwa tunawaonea but you know the reason why,but the rest of kenyans wako sawaAnd for his information tribalism only appears in Kenya during electioneering period ,I don't think that tribal is that bad in our country cause we intermarry ,we work for each other and we live together so these folks should spare us their stupidity.
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Eeeh buda,you askng us deep staffs na i think nimewaambia even us KENYANS dong go that deep in history,,,maybe someone who did history in highschool maybe anazaeza kujibu coz i deed geography…...so, you concur that tribalism exists, only that Mboya's tribe is just on the periphery in that view; correct? Are you aware of his relationship with the late Obama?
[emoji115] soma hapo juu kuna watu wako opposed and oppressed in kenya n its not kenyans ni somalis,most us hata ka we dont show deep down we kinda hate n blame them for many things hata kama si hao personally huduu…...so, you concur that tribalism exists, only that Mboya's tribe is just on the periphery in that view; correct? Are you aware of his relationship with the late Obama?
Sorry for misunderstanding your point of view.[emoji115] soma hapo juu kuna watu wako opposed in kenya n its not kenyans ni somalis,most us hata ka we dont show deep down we kinda hate n blame them for many things hata kama si hao personally huduu
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Honestly speaking i didn't even know if he was a luo or maybe its just that i didnt care,nilikwambia we read staff limited sana kumhusu,n huyo msee amesema ukweli maybe time ya ku vote ndo tribalism hutokea but normall days ni hard na hao politician ndo hchocha watu but i think experience is the best teacher,its hard for kenyans to fall again kwa game yao.Sorry for misunderstanding your point of view.
It just stunned me that you responded with a negative tone to the topic, which led me believe that you did not want to read anything about Tom Mboya. Using proof by induction, I concluded that it could be tribalism since this gentleman was assassinated almost 50 years ago, so there would be no other reason for someone to hate his history today except if driven by tribal conflicts that exist even today against Odinga. Mboya came from the line of the Odingas, that is why his mausoleum was built in Nyanza province.
There is no relationship other than that of sending him to US , Obama senior was among those Kenyans that Tom mboya sourced to go and study in US.Obama senior is from siaya alego usonga while Tomas mboya is a Bantu from Rusinga island. when am a Kikuyu and I decide to vote Uhuru that doesn't make me a tribal because I want to believe that there are lots of sukuma people who voted magufuli instead of lowasa does that make them tribal?.…...so, you concur that tribalism exists, only that Mboya's tribe is just on the periphery in that view; correct? Are you aware of his relationship with the late Obama?
Hatuwaonei wasomali wenyewe wamejitenga they don't intermarry na other Kenyans. Nilikua na kaka binamu licha ya yeye kua muislam alipata msichana wa kisomali wakapendana lakini wazazi wa huyo msichana walikataa wakasema lazima awe msomali ndio wafunge nikaa.Say no more,...thats the truth btw during normall times no one cares which tribe you are maybe somalis ndo ungesema huwa tunawaonea but you know the reason why,but the rest of kenyans wako sawa
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There is no relationship other than that of sending him to US , Obama senior was among those Kenyans that Tom mboya sourced to go and study in US.Obama senior is from siaya alego usonga while Tomas mboya is a Bantu from Rusinga island. when am a Kikuyu and I decide to vote Uhuru that doesn't make me a tribal because I want to believe that there are lots of sukuma people who voted magufuli instead of lowasa does that make them tribal?.
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Easy Mkuu, Mbona WAJINGA NA WAPUMBAVU wako kila kona ya Kenya na Tanzania. Haya mambo yanatokea tuNatoka Moshi,Uchaggani huko....
Cha ajabu I wonder how do these people from Lake Victoria ended up on the slopes of Mount Kilimanjaro?
It is very very far away!
Mfano mdogo tu huu hapa:
Ukoo wa Njau upo Uchaggani na upo Ukikuyu!
Ukoo Kimath upo Uchaggani na upo Ukikuyu!
Ukoo Mboya upo Uchaggani na upo Ujaluoni!
Ukoo Kyara upo Uchaggani na upo Taveta!
Ukoo Mworia upo Uchaggani na upo sijui Ukikuyu!
Waria upo Uchaggani na upo Wajir!
Ukoo wangu binafsi unafanana exactly na jina la ukoo mmoja from nadhani Kakamega!
Sasa unashangaa,hawa watu walikutana tu sehemu na wametoka sehemu mbalimbali halafu wanajijengea kabila lao jipya au wanafanyeje?
Na I'm sure kujenga kabila liliokamilika sidhani kama inachukua chini ya miaka 1,000!
Understanding this phenomenon is really beyond me!
Natoka Moshi,Uchaggani huko....
Cha ajabu I wonder how do these people from Lake Victoria ended up on the slopes of Mount Kilimanjaro?
It is very very far away!
Mfano mdogo tu huu hapa:
Ukoo wa Njau upo Uchaggani na upo Ukikuyu!
Ukoo Kimath upo Uchaggani na upo Ukikuyu!
Ukoo Mboya upo Uchaggani na upo Ujaluoni!
Ukoo Kyara upo Uchaggani na upo Taveta!
Ukoo Mworia upo Uchaggani na upo sijui Ukikuyu!
Waria upo Uchaggani na upo Wajir!
Ukoo wangu binafsi unafanana exactly na jina la ukoo mmoja from nadhani Kakamega!
Sasa unashangaa,hawa watu walikutana tu sehemu na wametoka sehemu mbalimbali halafu wanajijengea kabila lao jipya au wanafanyeje?
Na I'm sure kujenga kabila liliokamilika sidhani kama inachukua chini ya miaka 1,000!
Understanding this phenomenon is really beyond me!
It was a terrible incident, I was a high school student in western Kenya during the Tom Mboya’s assassination though I am a Tanzania(currently residing thousands of kilometers away from the African continent)!!He is the one who indirectly created President Barack Obama the first Black American President since he is the one who organized the training of young Kenyans who pursued university education in America, Baraka’s father being one of the students!! Tom was not a socialist/communist like Hon Jaramogi Odinga, he was a capitalist but a true nationalist. There was havoc in Kenya and especially in Western Kenya, he was extremely intelligent, he lived and behaved like a Gikuyu, envied and admired by people from all walks of life.
If you are a Kenyan then you should have read it before I posted it here because it appeared for the first time in the Nairobian newspaper, and the name of the original author appears at the bottom of the article. I know some Kenyans are strong believers of tribal divisions, and you might be one of them aligned with a tribe that opposes Mboya's tribe. Therefore whoever speaks good about Mboya becomes your enemy too. You did not have to call me names for just positing something about Mboya, just don't read it and shut up.
Sisi wote ni Wabantu - tumetoka kwa mama mmoja na baba mmoja. Hivi jina lako la Kibantu lipi?
ndo maana bdo mi na insist lets kick em out of kenya,they bring more harm than good alafu uchafu na kutema mate huku ka nyokaHatuwaonei wasomali wenyewe wamejitenga they don't intermarry na other Kenyans. Nilikua na kaka binamu licha ya yeye kua muislam alipata msichana wa kisomali wakapendana lakini wazazi wa huyo msichana walikataa wakasema lazima awe msomali ndio wafunge nikaa.
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Rusinga island is in lake Victoria , and the indigenous people of the island are Abasuba who are Bantu and that is Tom Mboya's tribe the fact that island is in Nyanza province does not make him a luo because we have other tribes in Nyanza who are not luo eg Kisii,kuria and some luhyas.Please put history at its proper place, is Rusinga Island a Bantu island? Is Tom Mboya a Bantu?! First time to hear this(rewritten history)!
Huyu labda ni mkabrasi au muidakho .Mkuu
Siwezi litaja humu mkuu,
Anonymity siwezi ichezea aisee!
#Sisemikitu.ndo maana bdo mi na insist lets kick em out of kenya,they bring more harm than good alafu uchafu na kutema mate huku ka nyoka
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Noooo! Lumumba institute was started by akina Oginga Odinga and Pio Gama pinto to spread communism in Kenya. And guess who spearheaded the plans to have it shut down? Mboya launched the motion in Parliament in 1965 exposing the institution's "nefarious, secret activities" to sow the seeds of communist dictatorship in Kenya. It is thanks to Mboya's efforts, that Kenya remained a capitalist country in fact, going against the grain in the region.Tom Mboya will be remembered for starting the lumumba institute to teach young africans the ideology of socialism. Jomo kenyatta prefered tribalism and he assasinated him..A bright mind nearly as bright as Mwalimu Nyerere
Hata in 1965 our judiciary haikuwa na nguvu coz most pple hata ma magistrates walikuwa wazungu alafu wahindi actually 90%but hio staff ya capitalist i think ilikuwa idea ya kila leader hata kenyatta na njonjo wanted thatNoooo! Lumumba institute was started by akina Oginga Odinga and Pio Gama pinto to spread communism in Kenya. And guess who spearheaded the plans to have it shut down? Mboya launched the motion in Parliament in 1965 exposing the institution's "nefarious, secret activities" to sow the seeds of communist dictatorship in Kenya. It is thanks to Mboya's efforts, that Kenya remained a capitalist country in fact, going against the grain in the region.
Mm coz they believe what their media feeds themWhen Tanzanians speak about tribalism in Kenya, it sounds way grimmer than it is, lol. The idea of Kenyans living happily together as brothers and sisters does not exist in their minds.