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Kweli wewe MKENYA lugha yako nimeipenda
Kweli wewe MKENYA lugha yako nimeipendaMagufuli na kisirani zake anaweza kataa kutia saini
La hasha. Mombasa-Kisumu pipeline is not a white elephant because even if we import fuel from Uganda, we will still use this pipeline to transport fuel from Kisumu to Nakuru, Nairobi and Mombasa. Pipeline transportation is more efficient than truck transportationBTW what's ur opinion as far as ur Mombasa-Kisumu pipeline is concerned? While u cover ur investment costs if this thing is to start being built next year? and completed say 2024?
Don't u think u should start counting ur Mombasa-Kisumu pipeline as another tembo mweupe?
But for how long? Uganda is starting to build her refinery next year that will be able to refinery 60mln barrels per day! do u think they will continue to import refined oil from Mombasa? 😀 😀 😀 ☝ another tembo mweupe!La hasha. Mombasa-Kisumu pipeline is not a white elephant because even if we import fuel from Uganda, we will still use this pipeline to transport fuel from Kisumu to Nakuru, Nairobi and Mombasa. Pipeline transportation is more efficient than truck transportation
Viongozi wa Kenya wanapenda hii plan ya kuexport mafuta kwa sababu wanataka pesa ya haraka. Hawana haja na maslahi ya mwananchi wa kawaida. Hali hii ni sawia na ya Nigeria ambayo inazalisha crude oil nyingi kushinda nchi yoyote Afrika ila haina uwezo wa kurefine mafuta ya kutosha kwa hivyo inawabidi watumie dola zao kuimport mafuta kutoka nchi za Uarabuni. Hii ndio aibu kubwa ya nchi za Afrika ambapo viongozi hawajali maslahi ya wananchi, wanajali tumbo zao tu.Ni kweli mna reserve ndogo ya mafuta. Ila the problem ni kwamba je, hayo mafuta bado mna umiliki nayo hadi ndio muamue wenyewe kuwa mnataka kujenga hiyo refinery? Kumbuka kuna plan ya pipeline, but hapo hapo kuna tanker zinasomba hayo mafuta ghafi to the port and shipped abroad, hapo huoni tayari kuna mchezo ambao haueleweki? Kuna problem somewhere...
Wivu tuu ndio unakusumbueni nyie wa KE mnajiona bora sana.Ila sasa tumepata chuma JPM anawanyoosha kweli,vp bado mmejifungia na Covid 19 sie huku tunapeta tuu kwa kuendelea kuchapa kazi.Hiyo Covid imefutika huku.Nyie ni wezi tu. Mlitunyang'anya hii pipeline kwa sababu ya wivu na majungu. Lakini hata ikikamilika, bado hamtawahi kutufikia kiuchumi.
This pipeline was not built to transport oil to Uganda. That was not the aim of the pipeline. Kenya wanted to remove trucks from the road and use pipeline to transport fuel from Mombasa to Kisumu. Trucks used to cause accidents in Kenya and they are more expensive than pipeline. That pipeline was for internal use. We have only started exporting oil to Uganda from Kisumu two months ago. Even if we stop exporting oil to Uganda, this pipeline will still be used to supply oil to Nakuru, Nairobi, Mombasa and Kisumu because in Kenya we are trying to remove fuel tankers from the road.But for how long? Uganda is starting to build her refinery next year that will be able to refinery 60mln barrels per day! do u think they will continue to import refined oil from Mombasa? 😀 😀 😀 ☝ another tembo mweupe!
Nyie ni wezi tu. Mlitunyang'anya hii pipeline kwa sababu ya wivu na majungu. Lakini hata ikikamilika, bado hamtawahi kutufikia kiuchumi.
Viongozi wa Kenya wanapenda hii plan ya kuexport mafuta kwa sababu wanataka pesa ya haraka. Hawana haja na maslahi ya mwananchi wa kawaida. Hali hii ni sawia na ya Nigeria ambayo inazalisha crude oil nyingi kushinda nchi yoyote Afrika ila haina uwezo wa kurefine mafuta ya kutosha kwa hivyo inawabidi watumie dola zao kuimport mafuta kutoka nchi za Uarabuni. Hii ndio aibu kubwa ya nchi za Afrika ambapo viongozi hawajali maslahi ya wananchi, wanajali tumbo zao tu.
Off-topic.Wivu tuu ndio unakusumbueni nyie wa KE mnajiona bora sana.Ila sasa tumepata chuma JPM anawanyoosha kweli,vp bado mmejifungia na Covid 19 sie huku tunapeta tuu kwa kuendelea kuchapa kazi.Hiyo Covid imefutika huku.
Ila ile trilioni 1.5 bado haina maelezo. Afrika ni Afrika tu.Kwa hapo nimekuelewa sana, hiyo changamoto mko nayo sana round hii.. sijui mtatoka vipi hapo maana ni kila sekta kuna hiyo hali ya viongozi kupiga pesa ndefu bila kujali raia wake. Tunashukuru upande wetu huku angalau mambo yanaenda kwa kujali maslahi ya wengi.
still a tembo mweupe as once Uganda starts refining oil there is no way oil from middle east will be cheaper than Uganda's!This pipeline was not built to transport oil to Uganda. That was not the aim of the pipeline. Kenya wanted to remove trucks from the road and use pipeline to transport fuel from Mombasa to Kisumu. Trucks used to cause accidents in Kenya and they are more expensive than pipeline. That pipeline was for internal use. We have only started exporting oil to Uganda from Kisumu two months ago. Even if we stop exporting oil to Uganda, this pipeline will still be used to supply oil to Nakuru, Nairobi, Mombasa and Kisumu because in Kenya we are trying to remove fuel tankers from the road.
Ila ile trilioni 1.5 bado haina maelezo. Afrika ni Afrika tu.
We mzee una tabu sana, tuonyeshe wapi mombasa nairobi pipeline ilijengwa kw ajili ya ug..si utakusha kw kijiba cha roho wewe jamanistill a tembo mweupe as once Uganda starts refining oil there is no way oil from middle east will be cheaper than Uganda's!
Aiports along ECOP in Tanzania
Bukoba Airport
Chato Airport (currently U/C)
Mwanza international Airport
Tabora Airport (currently under expansion)
Kahama Airstrip
Shinyanga Airport (currently under expansion)
upcoming Msalato Airport
Dodoma Airport (currently under expansion)
Ngerengere Airforce Airport
Kilimanjaro International Airport
Tanga airport (currently under expansion)
Ports along the EACOP in Tanzania
Mwanza port
Tanga port (currently under expansion)
Railways along the EACOP in Tanzania
Dar-Isaka MGR (over 99% revamped)
Tanga-Ruvu-Isaka MGR (over 99% revamped)
Dar-Mwanza electrical SGR (Dar-Morogoro over 90%, Morogoro-Dodoma-makutupora over 40%, Mwanza-Isaka about to be launched)
Tanga-Moshi-Arusha-Mara MGR(Tanga-Moshi-Arusha 100 revamped, Arusha-Mara MGR (in planning stages))
Uswahilini tunasema "dua la kuku halimpati mwewe"!Mkifaulu kuimplement kila kitu kama mlivyopanga bila bugdha basi mtatengeneza pesa nono. Ila kawaida kwenye maisha vitu huwa haviendi kama vilivyopangwa.
Barakoa mtindo moja. Uganda na nchi za Afrika kwa nini hawataki kujifunza kutoka Tanzania? Haka ka Covid-19 ni kaugonjwa kadogo tu ..... ..... .... JPM.
Uganda na kampuni ya Total ya ufaransa zimefikia makubaliano ambayo yanaifanya kampuni hiyo ya mafuta na washirika wake kukaribia kuanza ujenzi wa bomba la mafuta kwenda nchi ya jirani ya Tanzania, kampuni hiyo ilisema Ijumaa.
Uganda iligundua hifadhi ya mafuta miaka 14 iliyopita lakini uzalishaji wa kibiashara umechelewa kutokana na ukosefu wa miundombine kama bomba la kuyasafirisha.
Bomba la kilomita 1445 linagharimu dola bilioni 3.5 litapitia nchi jirani ya Tanzania kwenda bandari ya Tanga.
Total imesema imefikia makubaliano na Uganda kulinda haki na majukumu yake kwenye ujenzi wa bomba hilo na uendeshaji wake.
“ Leo tumefikia hatua kubwa ambayo inafungua njia kwenye maamuzi ya mwisho ya uwekezaji kwenye miezi ijayo ” Amesema Pierre Jessua, mkurugenzi mtendaji wa Total Uganda
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KAMPALA, Sept 11 (Reuters) - Uganda and France’s Total have reached an agreement that will bring the oil firm and its partners closer to starting construction of a crude pipeline to neighbouring Tanzania, the company’s local unit said on Friday.
Uganda discovered crude oil reserves about 14 years ago but commercial production has been delayed partly because of a lack of infrastructure, such as an export pipeline.
The 1,445-km (900-mile) East African Crude Oil Pipeline, costing $3.5 billion, would pass through neighbouring Tanzania to the Indian Ocean port of Tanga.
Total said it had reached an agreement with Uganda protecting its rights and obligations in the pipeline’s construction and operation - known as the host government agreement.
“We have today reached major milestones which pave the way to the Final Investment Decision in the coming months,” Pierre Jessua, Managing Director of Total E&P Uganda, said in a statement.
“We now look forward to concluding a similar HGA (host government agreement) with the Government of Tanzania and to completing the tendering process for all major engineering, procurement and construction contracts.”
Total said a meeting between President Yoweri Museveni and its Chief Executive Officer Patrick Pouyanné also agreed to conditions allowing Uganda National Oil Company to join the project.
Total is the major shareholder in Uganda’s oil fields after agreeing in April to buy Tullow Oil’s entire stake in jointly-held onshore fields in Uganda for $575 million.
Tullow said this week it was confident of finalising the sale in fourth quarter of this year.
The other partner in the 230,000 barrel-per-day project is China’s CNOOC.
The government said last year once pipeline construction begins, it would take 2-1/2 to three years to complete.
Uganda discovered crude oil reserves estimated at 6 billion barrels in the Albertine rift basin near the border with the Democratic Republic of Congo in 2006. (Reporting by Elias Biryabarema; Writing by George Obulutsa; Editing by Andrew Cawthorne)
Uganda, Total reach agreement bringing crude pipeline construction closer - ET EnergyWorld
MY TAKE
Paving a way for Final investment Decision! BTW what happened to Lamu-Lokichar pipeline?
I see Magufuli name all over, what does that mean?
How will refined oil from Uganda be transported from Kisumu to Nairobi and Mombasa without using the pipeline? Umefikiria hilo kweli?still a tembo mweupe as once Uganda starts refining oil there is no way oil from middle east will be cheaper than Uganda's!
Aiports along ECOP in Tanzania
Bukoba Airport
Chato Airport (currently U/C)
Mwanza international Airport
Tabora Airport (currently under expansion)
Kahama Airstrip
Shinyanga Airport (currently under expansion)
upcoming Msalato Airport
Dodoma Airport (currently under expansion)
Ngerengere Airforce Airport
Kilimanjaro International Airport
Tanga airport (currently under expansion)
Ports along the EACOP in Tanzania
Mwanza port
Tanga port (currently under expansion)
Railways along the EACOP in Tanzania
Dar-Isaka MGR (over 99% revamped)
Tanga-Ruvu-Isaka MGR (over 99% revamped)
Dar-Mwanza electrical SGR (Dar-Morogoro over 90%, Morogoro-Dodoma-makutupora over 40%, Mwanza-Isaka about to be launched)
Tanga-Moshi-Arusha-Mara MGR(Tanga-Moshi-Arusha 100 revamped, Arusha-Mara MGR (in planning stages))
If reverse flow is considered but with that pipeline without leakage sensors forget it i don't think a reverse option was considered! That pipeline is a one direction flow i have checked already!How will oil from Uganda be transported from Kisumu to Mombasa without using the pipeline? Umefikiria hilo kweli?
It can be fixed. We just did not have the money to fix it but it will be cheaper to fix it than build a new pipeline.If reverse flow is considered but with that pipeline without leakage sensors forget it i don't think a reverse option was considered! That pipeline is a one direction flow i have checked already!