Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar

Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar

WildCard said:
Ni kweli kabisa. Hata misikitini anakohubiri wamemwelewa sana. Jina la Mwalimu likitajwa tu huko, inafuata "laana tullah!"
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Hata makanisani wanamuelewa kama mtakatifu wao wengine mtume.
 
WildCard said:
Nimetumia neno "baadhi yetu", sifikirii wala sijawahi kuota kumsemea mtu humu. Mwambie mzee wetu atuwekee barua ya Ally kwenda kwa KK. Halafu atutafutie angalau picha ya kubumba ya Abdu alipokutana Jomo Kenyatta
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[TD] The closing months of 1953 were very hectic at TAA's headquarters.

A three men delegation of the association was invited by the Secretary General of the African National Congress of Northern Rhodesia, Kenneth Kaunda, to attend a Pan African Congress (ANC) in Lusaka.

In November Ally Sykes received the invitation letter.

In 1953 Harry Nkumbula had been elected president of the ANC and Kaunda was appointed Northern Provincial Organising secretary.

In August, Kaunda moved to the post of Secretary General of ANC.

Within a few days of his new appointment, he wrote to Nairobi, Dar es Salaam and Johannesburg, responding to a suggestion of the Kenya African Union and the South African ANC that ‘Lusaka should be the rendezvous of nationalists from countries south of Sahara.' [1]
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[TD="width: 601"] At that time the ANC had several grievances against the British and had adopted a policy of non-cooperation without violence.

In a memorandum Kaunda sent to Ally Sykes he explained thus, ‘Thou shalt not co-operate with any body in any scheme which is detrimental to the African interests.' [2]
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[TD="width: 601"] Africans in Northern Rhodesia were struggling against the tripartite voting system which Governor Twining later in 1958 imposed on Tanganyika. Some of the grievances which the ANC considered to be detrimental to African interest were continuation of European farming and housing schemes.

But the most burning issue was the federation with Southern Rhodesia. Kaunda was planning to act against the federation through withdrawal of African labour from European farms and building contractors engaged in constructing houses for European immigrants.

Kaunda was also campaigning against discrimination of Africans in public places.

The ANC was proposing to integrate all African organisations against colonialism and establish a Pan African Council for Africa south of the equator.

In the preparation for the congress, Kaunda was planning to incorporate Makerere College, Achimota, Fort Hare and some universities in England, India and the United States.

The ANC had a seven-point programme for the conference and working with Rev. Michael Scott, [3] Kaunda was to seek assistance and work with Canon Raven of Maddingley Hall Cambridge and Arthur Lewis an economist with Manchester University.
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[TD="width: 601"] On 12 th November, Ally Sykes wrote to Kaunda confirming TAGSA and TAA participation in the conference.

Denis Phombeah and Bhoke Munanka, the TAA secretary in Lake Province, were to represent TAA.

On 1st December, Alexander Tobias wrote to the Labour Commissioner Bennet requesting permission for Ally Sykes to attend the conference. [4]

Munanka was refused a passport by the government and could not therefore travel. On 10 th December, exactly two months after Ally Sykes and his brother Abdulwahid had agreed to form the party, Ally Sykes and Denis Phombeah, who were given permission by the government to attend the conference, [5] left by Central African Airways Dakota aircraft for Lusaka via Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia.

Ally and Phombeah were the only Africans on the plane.

They were to transit at Salisbury and leave for Lusaka the following day. The two had booked at The Ambassador Hotel, Salisbury, for the night and the hotel had confirmed their bookings. [/TD]
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[1] See Fergus Macpherson, Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia, Lusaka, 1974, p. 430. Other additional
information from Ally Sykes.
[2] ANC Circular No. B.1/54 Sykes' Papers.
[3] For more information on Rev. Michael Scott and his contribution to the struggle in Southern
Africa and concern to African rights, see Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom, Abacus, 1995,
pp. 121-122.
[4] Alexander M Tobias, General Secretary, to Honourable Labour Commissioner, TAA/PAC/LS/6/53
1st December, 1953. Sykes' Papers.
[5] Labor Officer Dar es SalaamArea, G.A. Bennet's letter P/7/50 of 1st, December, 1953, to the Hon.
The Ag. Labour Commissioner. Sykes' Papers.
 
WildCard said:
Nimetumia neno "baadhi yetu", sifikirii wala sijawahi kuota kumsemea mtu humu. Mwambie mzee wetu atuwekee barua ya Ally kwenda kwa KK. Halafu atutafutie angalau picha ya kubumba ya Abdu alipokutana Jomo Kenyatta
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WC,

Mikutano ya siri kisha unataka na picha wapige?

Zile habari za kukutana na kina Kungu Karumba na
Bildad Kaggia hazitoshelezi?

Hamuamini kabisa kama haya mambo yalitokea?

Yalitokea.

Kenyatta yule na Abdu Sykes wote walikuwa wapigania
uhuru wakati ule wa 1950s.

Naelewa kwa kweli ni shida kufungua ubongo kwa haraka
na kupokea mambo mapya.
 
Mkuu wa chuo said:
leta ushahidi kama hauna basi na unyamaze, usirudie kusema hivyo tena...
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WildCard, kataja misikiti umekaa kimya mie kutaja makanisa umeshindwa kujizuia acha unafiki.

Halafu kauzu kama wewe utaweza kunipangia cha kuandika.

Unataka ushahidi gani nikuwekee mchakato wa kanisa kuhusu Nyerere.
 
Mohamed Said said:
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[TD] The closing months of 1953 were very hectic at TAAs headquarters.

A three men delegation of the association was invited by the Secretary General of the African National Congress of Northern Rhodesia, Kenneth Kaunda, to attend a Pan African Congress (ANC) in Lusaka.

In November Ally Sykes received the invitation letter.

In 1953 Harry Nkumbula had been elected president of the ANC and Kaunda was appointed Northern Provincial Organising secretary.

In August, Kaunda moved to the post of Secretary General of ANC.

Within a few days of his new appointment, he wrote to Nairobi, Dar es Salaam and Johannesburg, responding to a suggestion of the Kenya African Union and the South African ANC that Lusaka should be the rendezvous of nationalists from countries south of Sahara. [1]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 601"] At that time the ANC had several grievances against the British and had adopted a policy of non-cooperation without violence.

In a memorandum Kaunda sent to Ally Sykes he explained thus, Thou shalt not co-operate with any body in any scheme which is detrimental to the African interests. [2]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 601"] Africans in Northern Rhodesia were struggling against the tripartite voting system which Governor Twining later in 1958 imposed on Tanganyika. Some of the grievances which the ANC considered to be detrimental to African interest were continuation of European farming and housing schemes.

But the most burning issue was the federation with Southern Rhodesia. Kaunda was planning to act against the federation through withdrawal of African labour from European farms and building contractors engaged in constructing houses for European immigrants.

Kaunda was also campaigning against discrimination of Africans in public places.

The ANC was proposing to integrate all African organisations against colonialism and establish a Pan African Council for Africa south of the equator.

In the preparation for the congress, Kaunda was planning to incorporate Makerere College, Achimota, Fort Hare and some universities in England, India and the United States.

The ANC had a seven-point programme for the conference and working with Rev. Michael Scott, [3] Kaunda was to seek assistance and work with Canon Raven of Maddingley Hall Cambridge and Arthur Lewis an economist with Manchester University.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 601"] On 12 th November, Ally Sykes wrote to Kaunda confirming TAGSA and TAA participation in the conference.

Denis Phombeah and Bhoke Munanka, the TAA secretary in Lake Province, were to represent TAA.

On 1st December, Alexander Tobias wrote to the Labour Commissioner Bennet requesting permission for Ally Sykes to attend the conference. [4]

Munanka was refused a passport by the government and could not therefore travel. On 10 th December, exactly two months after Ally Sykes and his brother Abdulwahid had agreed to form the party, Ally Sykes and Denis Phombeah, who were given permission by the government to attend the conference, [5] left by Central African Airways Dakota aircraft for Lusaka via Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia.

Ally and Phombeah were the only Africans on the plane.

They were to transit at Salisbury and leave for Lusaka the following day. The two had booked at The Ambassador Hotel, Salisbury, for the night and the hotel had confirmed their bookings. [/TD]
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[1] See Fergus Macpherson, Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia, Lusaka, 1974, p. 430. Other additional
information from Ally Sykes.
[2] ANC Circular No. B.1/54 Sykes' Papers.
[3] For more information on Rev. Michael Scott and his contribution to the struggle in Southern
Africa and concern to African rights, see Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom, Abacus, 1995,
pp. 121-122.
[4] Alexander M Tobias, General Secretary, to Honourable Labour Commissioner, TAA/PAC/LS/6/53
1st December, 1953. Sykes' Papers.
[5] Labor Officer Dar es SalaamArea, G.A. Bennet's letter P/7/50 of 1st, December, 1953, to the Hon.
The Ag. Labour Commissioner. Sykes Papers.
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Mzee Mwanakijiji. Nguruvi3. WildCard. Jasusi.

Kenneth Kaunda yupo hai fanyeni mkamuhoji kuhusu hizi habari.
 
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Ritz said:
WildCard, kataja misikiti umekaa kimya mie kutaja makanisa umeshindwa kujizuia acha unafiki.

Halafu kauzu kama wewe utaweza kunipangia cha kuandika.

Unataka ushahidi gani nikuwekee mchakato wa kanisa kuhusu Nyerere.
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sio unafiki, kitu alichosema nadhani yupo sahihi kwasababu kuna siku nilikuwa naangalia cd ya uamsho, kuna yule mzee aliyekuwa anawakaribisha kina Mselem na wenzake akawa anasema likitajwa jina la kiongozi muislam hakuna kusema laana tullah, lakini likitajwa jina la kiongozi ambaye sio muislam basi wamalizie na laana tullah pamoja na yule baba wa taifa wa ile nchi. Basi waseme laana tullah, kwa hiyo alichosema Wildcard nadhani ni sahihi...
 
WildCard said:
Wengi tu. Hasa tuliouanza mnakasha huu tokea mwanzo. Nukuu zenyewe zinajirudia tuuu!
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WC,

Mimi hurudia kwa kuwa kuna wengi ni wasikilizaji wapya
ukiachilia mbali wale ambao wanarudia kuuliza swali lile
lile mara kadhaa.
 
Nguruvi3 said:
Labda kama kuna mahali sijapaelewa,lakini maandishi ndivyo yanavyosomeka.
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Mkuu Nguruvi3, ndiyo maana niliwahi kumkanya huyu mchochezi kwamba akitaka kueneza uongo ahakikishe anatunza kumbukumbu...ona sasa anavyoumbuka kwa kukana maandishi yake yeye mwenyewe humu ndani...JF inatunza kumbukumbu na haya tunayoyaandika tuangalie sana, yasije yakatusuta baadaye!

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Africas Greatest of all time

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Kwenye hii kumbukumbu ya Africa's greatest iliyoandikwa kwenye NewAfrican (si Chuo cha Kivukoni) ambayo mchochezi Mohamed Said anatamba kuwa moja wa wachangiaji, Abdulwahid Sykes na Mshume Kiyate tuwaweke wapi? Kwangu ni tusi kubwa kwa taifa hata kuwataja tu watu hawa kila anapotajwa Baba wa Taifa, Mwalimu Julius Kambarage Nyerere.

Kwa manufaa ya wasomaji wote wa JF, hakuna hata jina moja la wazee wa Gerezani wa Mohamed Said lipo kwenye "top 1,000,000 of Africa's Greatest!"...there!
 
Mag3 said:
Mkuu Nguruvi3, ndiyo maana niliwahi kumkanya huyu mchochezi kwamba akitaka kueneza uongo ahakikishe anatunza kumbukumbu...ona sasa anavyoumbuka kwa kukana maandishi yake yeye mwenyewe humu ndani...JF inatunza kumbukumbu na haya tunayoyaandika tuangalie sana, yasije yakatusuta baadaye!

new-african-magazine-cover-august-september-2004.jpg

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Africas Greatest of all time

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Kwenye hii kumbukumbu ya Africa's greatest iliyoandikwa kwenye NewAfrican (si Chuo cha Kivukoni) ambayo mchochezi Mohamed Said anatamba kuwa moja wa wachangiaji, Abdulwahid Sykes na Mshume Kiyate tuwaweke wapi? Kwangu ni tusi kubwa kwa taifa hata kuwataja tu watu hawa kila anapotajwa Baba wa Taifa, Mwalimu Julius Kambarage Nyerere.
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Mag,

Unaandika kwa hamaki.
Sijajua umekusudia nini.

Labda utulie uandike upya.

Neno "mchochezi" "unaona matusi"
yanafunika mantiki.

Mbona hili jambo linakutoa nje kiasi
hiki?

Ni historia tu ya wazee wangu isikuumize
kiasi hiki.
 
WildCard said:
Sijaghadhabika wala kuchoka. Wewe na mimi ni wakongwe kwenye thread hii. Wenzako wanaweka picha za maRais Kenyatta, Kaunda na mwenzao Mwalimu, wewe unasema Kenyatta alikutana na Abdu, kama nani? Kaunda aliandikiana na Ally, kwa lipi, kama nani?

Unataka kutueleza nini? Tuwekee hiyo barua ya Ally kwenda kwa Kaunda mwaka 1953 wakati wote wawili hata miaka 30 walikuwa hawajafika.
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WC,

Ala kumbe haya ni mazito.

Wakati naandika kitabu haikunipitia kuwa
iko siku haya yatahangaisha watu.

Hizo nyaraka nimeziona na ziko katika rejea
kama nilivyoonyesha.

Nimeweka taarifa ya Kaunda na Kenyatta.
Zisome.
 
DULLAH MSAVIVOR said:
Oooh Gwalihenzi..

I am very very sory,please receive my apology,,

But reality is,,you dont seem to be like a gentleman..

Your so so Childish..

I hope you are not BITWALE..,Coz that man is already dead and gone..
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But this is not the English i taught you. Please stop shaming yourself.
 
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