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You realy dont follow, When kenya was hungry and "unga" riots in Kibera were almost overwhelming Jubilee, Magufuli banned Export of Tz Maize to kenya, further agravating the National Security situation. Uhuru talked to Edgar Lungu to sell some of his maize to kenya..JPM banned transit cargo. This is why Uhuru is looking for alternative route..Ashikwa makendeWho said it is? Mahindi nilikuwa ipitie Tz lakini itakuwa unapitia Mozambique so hasara ni kwenu...revenue lost kwa kujipiga kifua. We Kenyans are never bullied but we bully our way through.
It is your Trade Block please do tell us more.HOW many countries in SADC?
WHAT is a standard bloc export FOR each country?
Akatafuta an alternative na akapata kwa Lungu na Maputo. Sio lazima zipitie Tanzania zifike Kenya. Mkifunga milango tunaingilia kwa dirisha, mkifunga madirisha tunang'oa paa. Endeeleeni kuisoma namba.You realy dont follow, When kenya was hungry and "unga" riots in Kibera were almost overwhelming Jubilee, Magufuli banned Export of Tz Maize to kenya, further agravating the National Security situation. Uhuru talked to Edgar Lungu to sell some of his maize to kenya..JPM banned transit cargo. This is why Uhuru is looking for alternative route..Ashikwa makende
The only thing I see you there is if we can get our goods to Mozambique then they can easily b transported to Malawi,South Africa,Zimbabwe, etc. Same for imports from those Countries....the rail to connect the coast of Mozambique to the SADC countries look so
HihihiAkatafuta an alternative na akapata kwa Lungu na Maputo. Sio lazima zipitie Tanzania zifike Kenya. Mkifunga milango tunaingilia kwa dirisha, mkifunga madirisha tunang'oa paa. Endeeleeni kuisoma namba.
Uganda, DRC, Rwanda na Burundi tuliwatia kikapuni kitamba sana. Mozambique na Zambia pia wako box yetu sasa nyie hako kaport kenyu itabitadi kacheze na kina Morogoro and other small villages in Mainland Tanzania.
Kenya mlitaka mahindi ya Zambia, na Zambia ni shareholder wa TAZARA, wao ndio waliwalazimisha mtume TAZARA na Magufuli akafunga mlango. Hata mkienda Mozambique yatakuwa yale yale. Tanzania geographical location can not be ignored.Who said it is? Mahindi nilikuwa ipitie Tz lakini itakuwa unapitia Mozambique so hasara ni kwenu...revenue lost kwa kujipiga kifua. We Kenyans are never bullied but we bully our way through.
Dude your reasoning is flawed. Food security which is a huge component of National security cannot be solved by imports or looking for alternative routes to ferry cargo.Akatafuta an alternative na akapata kwa Lungu na Maputo. Sio lazima zipitie Tanzania zifike Kenya. Mkifunga milango tunaingilia kwa dirisha, mkifunga madirisha tunang'oa paa. Endeeleeni kuisoma namba.
Easy said than done Kenya wangefanya hivyo siku nyingi, mind you Nigeria, South Africa and Tanzanian haven't signed African Union's proposed free trade agreement.The only thing I see you there is if we can get our goods to Mozambique then they can easily b transported to Malawi,South Africa,Zimbabwe, etc. Same for imports from those Countries....
And So, Tz becomes irrelevant with our trade within SADC
Mozambique has already agreed to facilitate our trade, Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi are all part of Comesa where we have non tarrif barriers on local exports,Easy said than done Kenya wangefanya hivyo siku nyingi, mind you Nigeria, South Africa and Tanzanian haven't signed African Union's proposed free trade agreement.
wewe bongolala,banning transit is being genius..stupid fellowWhat goods does Kenya sell to SADC? Uhuru is looking for alternative route for food imports not exports. JPM is no nonsense and has proved that he can cause problems to national security by banning transit food cargo from being transported through TZ
The only thing I see you there is if we can get our goods to Mozambique then they can easily b transported to Malawi,South Africa,Zimbabwe, etc. Same for imports from those Countries....
And So, Tz becomes irrelevant with our trade within SADC
Akatafuta an alternative na akapata kwa Lungu na Maputo. Sio lazima zipitie Tanzania zifike Kenya. Mkifunga milango tunaingilia kwa dirisha, mkifunga madirisha tunang'oa paa. Endeeleeni kuisoma namba.
When you loose you abuse? Get a life! Yes JPM banned for political reasons Just the way EU & US imposes sanctions to Russia..Whether it worked or not is another issue, looking for alternatives is a sign that it worked. But the fact remains the way to solve Food Security and thereby guarantee national security is not through imports or looking for alternative trasit routes!wewe bongolala,banning transit is being genius..stupid fellow
Ahaaa haaa haaahehehe,wakae na transit zao.I love vile unye anatafuta alternatives
Jieleze ueleweke! Stop using half sentences that don't convey your point.Ok guys keep on keeping dreaming. Let me bring to your attention, SADC is more than a trading bloc, comprises members which were known as frontline countries.
How many time tariffs have been ignored if particular country doesn't see economical benefit of it? EAC is good example on this.Mozambique has already agreed to facilitate our trade, Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi are all part of Comesa where we have non tarrif barriers on local exports,
We have already signed deals with international shipping lines which have greater influence in determining which route imported/exported cargo will use
Exports to SADC will nolonger pass through Tz. That's the main take! They will use the SGR to transport export goods to Mombasa, then onwards tp Mozambique by sea (which is cheaper anyway) then from there it will go to the rest of the SADC countries.
Once we achieve that route by sea, it also means it will be cheaper for Uganda,Ethiopia, Sudan to send goods through Mombasa and Lamu port to be exported to SADC countries that are not Tz
International shipping lines like maersk,CMA..etc transport goods at a quater of the price! Moving goods by the sea will be way cheaper than trucking them , once they get there, they will be transported via rail... We sell more goods to African countries through the quiet but stable COMESA that what we sell through EAC, so just because there is no spark in EAC doesn't mean it will be the same on all economic blocksHow many time tariffs have been ignored if particular country doesn't see economical benefit of it? EAC is good enough on this.
On top of all that, adding with transportation cost, Kenya goods will not able to compete with Tanzanian goods. Never the less, with traditional links Tanzanian hold with those countries, Kenya has just made it easy for Tanzania to sabotage the whole thing, in fact much easier than CoW.
When those international shipping lines drop cargo in Msa and or Lamu, they can pick up exports from Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia and drop them down South, when they are comming back from South , they can do the same ... Basically this deal ensures Kenya will be a transport hub for eastern seaboard of Africa, especially now with the signing of CFTAYaani Uhuru anavyocheza huu mchezo ni hali ya international level, I didn't this coming, because with SGR and a connection to Beira port, we are automatically linking to SADC to Sudan, South Sudan, Uganda, Ethiopia etc