Uhuru: Kenya, Mozambique to link major ports

Uhuru: Kenya, Mozambique to link major ports

hehehe,by passing bongolala is quite good to me
Kafrican said:
When those international shipping lines drop cargo in Msa and or Lamu, they can pick up exports from Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia and drop them down South, when they are comming back from South , they can do the same ... Basically this deal ensures Kenya will be a transport hub for eastern seaboard of Africa, especially now with the signing of CFTA
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Kafrican said:
International shopping lines like maersk,CMA..etc transport goods at a quater of the price! Moving goods by the sea will be way cheaper that trucking them , once they get there, they will be transported via rail... We sell more goods to African countries through the quiet but stable COMESA that what we sell through EAC, so just because there is no spark in EAC doesn't mean it will be the same on all economic blocks
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You said you trade with Comesa but you dont say how much it cost Africa shipping cost is her than anywhere in the world. Having said that, a shipping container ferried from Tanzania to Zambia or Zimbabwe or Angola, and same shipping container from Kenya to those same countries, which one will cost less. Tanzania geographic location can not be ignored and I hope Uhuru Kenyatta will realise this sooner rather than later. unless ships travel through international waters (which is over 200 nautical mile away) and come back to dock in Mozambique port, they will have to pay Tanzania to use our waters. Same goes to airlines unless they fly on international airspace which is risky and sometimes costly due to more fuel been burned when climbing to higher altitude.
 
Kafrican said:
When those international shipping lines drop cargo in Msa and or Lamu, they can pick up exports from Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia and drop them down South, when they are comming back from South , they can do the same ... Basically this deal ensures Kenya will be a transport hub for eastern seaboard of Africa, especially now with the signing of CFTA
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Another theory, good on paper but not in reality. if Kenya failed to secure Ethiopia, South Sudan, Uganda, Rwanda DRC all the way to South Africa railway line what are the chances of making Uganda or Rwanda use foreign shipping line and not their own railway which they can cut the cost of shipping their goods into the market.
 
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
Dude your reasoning is flawed. Food security which is a huge component of National security cannot be solved by imports or looking for alternative routes to ferry cargo.
Recently Corruption killed our viable solution for food security- Galana Kulalu, 15b spent and nothing to show for it.
Shorterm measures cannot solve long term problems some going back as far as 1963
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Have you gone hungry if I may ask?
 
Kafrican said:
Exports to SADC will nolonger pass through Tz. That's the main take! They will use the SGR to transport export goods to Mombasa, then onwards tp Mozambique by sea (which is cheaper anyway) then from there it will go to the rest of the SADC countries.

Once we achieve that route by sea, it also means it will be cheaper for Uganda,Ethiopia, Sudan to send goods through Mombasa and Lamu port to be exported to SADC countries that are not Tz
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Please be serious.
 
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
You forgot am a mbirrionare. But ofcourse many people starved including Mùgikus in Mukuru kaiyaba slums. And yes JPM "sanctions" on maize export and blocking the transport corridor almost made Jubilee break in half.
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mbirrionaire koko.
 
If maize from Zambia couldn't be transported via NAcala or Beira port then how can Kenyan goods be transported now?
 
Tanzania is Africa's transportation hub by its geographical location
 
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Mwanzi1 said:
You said you trade with Comesa but you dont say how much it cost Africa shipping cost is her than anywhere in the world. Having said that, a shipping container ferried from Tanzania to Zambia or Zimbabwe or Angola, and same shipping container from Kenya to those same countries, which one will cost less. Tanzania geographic location can not be ignored and I hope Uhuru Kenyatta will realise this sooner rather than later. unless ships travel through international waters (which is over 200 nautical mile away) and come back to dock in Mozambique port, they will have to pay Tanzania to use our waters. Same goes to airlines unless they fly on international airspace which is risky and sometimes costly due to more fuel been burned when climbing to higher altitude.
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The same imternational ships do international business in almost all country ies, they also dock in Tz to deliver goods on heir way to South, so they won't pay anything that they don't pay already.

2nd thing, Remember the other time, You guys were celebrating when you made a deal with Ethiopia for the possibility of her to use your port ?
Isnt this the same thing ,? So why are you all acting 'smart' now that its Kenya doing it.


And FYI, yes, its cheaper for goods from Kenya to be shipped directly than to go through several country is by road... In fact we should make similar deals with ports in SA, then go to the other side to Namibia,Angola...etc
The good thing aboute this deal is that its an agreement between two ports, So those shipping lines will get specific instructions, pick this cargo on your way to Mozambique and drop it at port A.

Imagine it costs the same amount to ship a container from China to Mombasa,Kenya compared to transporting the same container by truck, from Mombasa to Nairobi, therefore, leveraging on sea transport will be more cheaper
 
Kobello said:
That's why I asked you to be serious. You are spitting garbage.
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Like I said, this is a discussion forum, therefore, DISCUSS! And let your opinion be known or else, keep half-assed reactions (like, please be serious!) to your self.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
You said you trade with Comesa but you dont say how much it cost Africa shipping cost is her than anywhere in the world. Having said that, a shipping container ferried from Tanzania to Zambia or Zimbabwe or Angola, and same shipping container from Kenya to those same countries, which one will cost less. Tanzania geographic location can not be ignored and I hope Uhuru Kenyatta will realise this sooner rather than later. unless ships travel through international waters (which is over 200 nautical mile away) and come back to dock in Mozambique port, they will have to pay Tanzania to use our waters. Same goes to airlines unless they fly on international airspace which is risky and sometimes costly due to more fuel been burned when climbing to higher altitude.
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Rember when you guys came here celebrating this deal with Ethiopia?



The Ethiopian Premier arrived in the country yesterday morning for a two-day state visit.

The two nations agreed to construct a modern cargo depot at the Julius Nyerere International Airport (JNIA) in Dar es Salaam in a bid to stimulate trade between them. “Being a land locked country, the Ethiopian leader has agreed to start using our port to receive some of their cargo, which will then be stored at the airport depot and airlifted to Ethiopia via the Ethiopian airline,” revealed Dr Magufuli.

In a similar vein, Mr Desalegn is scheduled to visit Dar es Salaam Port this morning to witness its operations.



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That deal is even more stupid! Ethiopia has its own International airline , it has one of the piggest airports in Africa! Geographically speaking Ethiopia is closer to world markets where these exports come from, why the hell would they need to bypass Ethiopia and go all the way to Tz, put it in a wearhouse then later come pick it up?



And then , What justification will they use, for Ethiopian goods to bypass the port of Djibouti where they have an electric rail connection, pypass the port of Lamu, Mombasa, Tanga,Bagamoyo all the way to Dar port just to import goods .

That is a deal that will never see light of day.
 
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
Mlevi Uhuru anatapatapa kila mahali. JPM amemshika pabaya, TZ wakisema hakuna kupitisha mali yeyote kutoka SADC hadi kenya kupitia TZ hakuna lolote Uhuru atafanya, hata avute bangi mbichi yakutoka cuba
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If you have any personal issues with Uhuru just face him directly.I guess your attacks seems too personal, and in this group we can't help you,but you will be seen as an idiot..sometimes try to moderate your language otherwise you are a cheap busybody drama queen thinking that by calling Uhuru all manner of names will make your life better,it won't you are just an old bitch seeking cheap publicity on social media.
 
eliakeem said:
Dude you don't know the SADC. Learn more about it.
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What is so special about SADC? its just like COMESA or ECOWAS nothing more,besides Zambia is part of COMESA and we will access the market anytime we want ,is Botswana and Angola .
 
eliakeem said:
Dude you don't know the SADC. Learn more about it.
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What is so special about SADC? its just like COMESA or ECOWAS nothing more,besides Zambia is part of COMESA and we will access the market anytime we want ,is Botswana and Angola .
 
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