Uhuru: Kenya, Mozambique to link major ports

Uhuru: Kenya, Mozambique to link major ports

If you have any personal issues with Uhuru just face him directly.I guess your attacks seems too personal, and in this group we can't help you,but you will be seen as an idiot..sometimes try to moderate your language otherwise you are a cheap busybody drama queen thinking that by calling Uhuru all manner of names will make your life better,it won't you are just an old bitch seeking cheap publicity on social media.
Am not looking for help from lowlifes like you. My freedom of speech is guaranteed by kenyan constitution, and Yes Uhuru is a drunkard, a bang smoker and closet homosexual. Wake up! this is not communist china or north korea.
If you catch feelings go and fap, it will relieve your blue balls
 
Ndo ma
Mlevi Uhuru anatapatapa kila mahali. JPM amemshika pabaya, TZ wakisema hakuna kupitisha mali yeyote kutoka SADC hadi kenya kupitia TZ hakuna lolote Uhuru atafanya, hata avute bangi mbichi yakutoka cuba
Ndo maana anatafuta sea route ili kuepuka visa vya akili uchwara zenye fitina za kiccm
 
The same imternational ships do international business in almost all country ies, they also dock in Tz to deliver goods on heir way to South, so they won't pay anything that they don't pay already.

2nd thing, Remember the other time, You guys were celebrating when you made a deal with Ethiopia for the possibility of her to use your port ?
Isnt this the same thing ,? So why are you all acting 'smart' now that its Kenya doing it.


And FYI, yes, its cheaper for goods from Kenya to be shipped directly than to go through several country is by road... In fact we should make similar deals with ports in SA, then go to the other side to Namibia,Angola...etc
The good thing aboute this deal is that its an agreement between two ports, So those shipping lines will get specific instructions, pick this cargo on your way to Mozambique and drop it at port A.

Imagine it costs the same amount to ship a container from China to Mombasa,Kenya compared to transporting the same container by truck, from Mombasa to Nairobi, therefore, leveraging on sea transport will be more cheaper
Rember when you guys came here celebrating this deal with Ethiopia?



The Ethiopian Premier arrived in the country yesterday morning for a two-day state visit.

The two nations agreed to construct a modern cargo depot at the Julius Nyerere International Airport (JNIA) in Dar es Salaam in a bid to stimulate trade between them. “Being a land locked country, the Ethiopian leader has agreed to start using our port to receive some of their cargo, which will then be stored at the airport depot and airlifted to Ethiopia via the Ethiopian airline,” revealed Dr Magufuli.

In a similar vein, Mr Desalegn is scheduled to visit Dar es Salaam Port this morning to witness its operations.



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That deal is even more stupid! Ethiopia has its own International airline , it has one of the piggest airports in Africa! Geographically speaking Ethiopia is closer to world markets where these exports come from, why the hell would they need to bypass Ethiopia and go all the way to Tz, put it in a wearhouse then later come pick it up?



And then , What justification will they use, for Ethiopian goods to bypass the port of Djibouti where they have an electric rail connection, pypass the port of Lamu, Mombasa, Tanga,Bagamoyo all the way to Dar port just to import goods .

That is a deal that will never see light of day.
You don't know why Ethiopia chose Tanzanian to build it's logistics center and not other places. First of all Tanzania is source of raw materials hard and soft, from agriculture to metal. Ethiopia is turning into an industrial country they need all sort of raw material in order to archive their goal. At the same time Bole Airport is located on Very High Altitude 7,000 ft above sea level, compare that to Dar which just about 200ft above sea level. They don't have luxury of carrying too much fuel on take plus heavy cargo, neither Djibouti nor Kenya can offer both of those things raw material, and a place which they can fly to the world without stopping for refuelling. Kenya-Mozambique deal was done for political reasons than solving the real issues, all this is to cut off your neighbors and run for Jack port. The same was done with CoW you isolated Tanzanian and run off with Uganda and Rwanda, it's Kenyatta style of doing business, he tried that with south Africa, he failed, now his trying with Mozambique and we all know the quality of Mozambique infrastructure and security issues.
 
You don't know why Ethiopia chose Tanzanian to build it's logistics center and not other places. First of all Tanzania is source of raw materials hard and soft, from agriculture to metal. Ethiopia is turning into an industrial country they need all sort of raw material in order to archive their goal. At the same time Bole Airport is located on Very High Altitude 7,000 ft above sea level, compare that to Dar which just about 200ft above sea level. They don't have luxury of carrying too much fuel on take plus heavy cargo, neither Djibouti nor Kenya can offer both of those things raw material, and a place which they can fly to the world without stopping for refuelling. Kenya-Mozambique deal was done for political reasons than solving the real issues, all this is to cut off your neighbors and run for Jack port. The same was done with CoW you isolated Tanzanian and run off with Uganda and Rwanda, it's Kenyatta style of doing business, he tried that with south Africa, he failed, now his trying with Mozambique and we all know the quality of Mozambique infrastructure and security issues.
Those are not real issues , Djibouti which Ethiopia already has a rail link is at sea level, Djibouti also has multiple airports that heavy cargo can land and be transported via rail, it will even give a boost to their SGR which is also facing similar first time challenges like Kenya.

Besides, If what you are claiming is true, how come Ethiopia airline is the second biggest in terms of cargo transport, and all of it goes through their hub at bole airport, How comes Ethiopia airlines flies to over 60 destinations far and wide on every continent. Does that mean big body aircraft will transport their cargo to JNIA and then smaller aircrafts will airlift them to Addis Ababa? Is that even financially sustainable? If the problem is stopping and refueling b4 landing in Ethiopia, how is that worse than using extra fuel to pass Ethiopia all the way to JNIA, offloading the cargo ,tranfere it to a warehouse, and then another plane with its own fuel come load up the cargo and do several trips and fly high enough above Kenya territorial space. And if JNIA has such advantage over Bole airport and JKIA, how comes JKIA carries half of the Air cargo from this region?


2nd thing if Ethiopia needs bulk Raw materials from Tz, they won't import them by air as that would be unsustainable, they will most likely have to use road or rail, which means the goods will have to pass through Kenya.
But anyway, what you have talked about raw material from Tz is something you've made up, Didn't Magufuli just the other day, banned exports of raw materials in favour of industries being set up in Tz to process those materials, And now you want to claim you've made a deal to supply raw materials for the growing Ethiopia's manufacturing industroes! , Magufuli specifically justifies Ethiopia's deal by saying..... " Being a land locked country, the Ethiopian leader has agreed to start using our port to receive some of their cargo, which will then be stored at the airport depot and airlifted to Ethiopia via the Ethiopian airline,” revealed Dr Magufuli.
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Magu didn't even bother to think of ATCL. The lame agreement should have included allowing ATCL to transport the said cargo to Ethiopia. Ethiopia govt creates opportunities for its airline to thrive, I sujjest you learn to do the same,
 
You don't know why Ethiopia chose Tanzanian to build it's logistics center and not other places. First of all Tanzania is source of raw materials hard and soft, from agriculture to metal. Ethiopia is turning into an industrial country they need all sort of raw material in order to archive their goal. At the same time Bole Airport is located on Very High Altitude 7,000 ft above sea level, compare that to Dar which just about 200ft above sea level. They don't have luxury of carrying too much fuel on take plus heavy cargo, neither Djibouti nor Kenya can offer both of those things raw material, and a place which they can fly to the world without stopping for refuelling. Kenya-Mozambique deal was done for political reasons than solving the real issues, all this is to cut off your neighbors and run for Jack port. The same was done with CoW you isolated Tanzanian and run off with Uganda and Rwanda, it's Kenyatta style of doing business, he tried that with south Africa, he failed, now his trying with Mozambique and we all know the quality of Mozambique infrastructure and security issues.
Which raw materials does your LDC have that Ethiopia lacks? Your Country is unable to produce enough electricity for your people and you trying to convince us that Ethiopia needs you is more if a wishful fairy tale.
 
Those are not real issues , Djibouti which Ethiopia already has a rail link is at sea level, Djibouti also has multiple airports that heavy cargo can land and be transported via rail, it will even give a boost to their SGR which is also facing similar first time challenges like Kenya.

Besides, If what you are claiming is true, how come Ethiopia airline is the second biggest in terms of cargo transport, and all of it goes through their hub at bole airport, How comes Ethiopia airlines flies to over 60 destinations far and wide on every continent. Does that mean big body aircraft will transport their cargo to JNIA and then smaller aircrafts will airlift them to Addis Ababa? Is that even financially sustainable? If the problem is stopping and refueling b4 landing in Ethiopia, how is that worse than using extra fuel to pass Ethiopia all the way to JNIA, offloading the cargo ,tranfere it to a warehouse, and then another plane with its own fuel come load up the cargo and do several trips and fly high enough above Kenya territorial space. And if JNIA has such advantage over Bole airport and JKIA, how comes JKIA carries half of the Air cargo from this region?


2nd thing if Ethiopia needs bulk Raw materials from Tz, they won't import them by air as that would be unsustainable, they will most likely have to use road or rail, which means the goods will have to pass through Kenya.
But anyway, what you have talked about raw material from Tz is something you've made up, Didn't Magufuli just the other day, banned exports of raw materials in favour of industries being set up in Tz to process those materials, And now you want to claim you've made a deal to supply raw materials for the growing Ethiopia's manufacturing industroes! , Magufuli specifically justifies Ethiopia's deal by saying..... " Being a land locked country, the Ethiopian leader has agreed to start using our port to receive some of their cargo, which will then be stored at the airport depot and airlifted to Ethiopia via the Ethiopian airline,” revealed Dr Magufuli.
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Magu didn't even bother to think of ATCL. The lame agreement should have included allowing ATCL to transport the said cargo to Ethiopia. Ethiopia govt creates opportunities for its airline to thrive, I sujjest you learn to do the same,

Haha, I love JF this where some of us come to be schooled. Do you know why Ethiopian airline can't fly direct from Addis to Los Angeles or Chicago even if they want to? All those flights have to stop on third country for refuelling. Bole airport being on high altitude the air is very thin to lift large aircraft with maximum payload. This will happen to KQ if they want to fly to far places like Los Angeles and others, unless they choose to start their journey from Mombasa otherwise stop start is the only way. Dar gives us advantage to be able to fly far and wide with single full fuel payload.

Yes Magufuli said what you just about Ethiopia and Tanzania agreement, but he didn't read each and every clause on the agreement. Part of that agreement is Ethiopia will build a huge perishable goods storage, If they want send bulk of their cut flowers to Australia for example, they can do so by transporting them on smaller aircraft Dar, process, and them and ship they to Australia. ATCL also has its own chance to embark on cargo business, in fact we've just completed perishable goods storage facility in JNIA. Not everything you've to use road or rail, some agriculture raw material like sunflower seeds, fish, semi produced starch, raisins for glue etc can be transported by air.

And yes, Magufuli did put ban on agricultural raw material, only to stop the smugglers using our land borders and some using njia za panya. All this was to control our taxes and also to know how much is produced and sold from our country. But the legal export where still doing their business as usual.

Magufuli two years vs Kenyatta five years, soon after was elected, with bad blood with had with west then. He made his first foreign trip to Russia and China, but what did bring home from those trips? Russian was supposed to supply Kenya with cheap fertilizer, how far that deal has went? Maybe not that far. He went to China, there he brought home huge Chinese takeaway, $3.5 bln loan which Chinese use RMB to finance it and kenya has to pay it back in $$$ how clever was that. Kenyatta pushed trade relationship South Africa, Ethiopia, South Sudan even with Uganda, but all that hasn't resulted anything. What about Magufuli two years in office, SGR with our own funds and cheapest loans anyone would rush for, Resurrection of ATCL, cargo in Dar port has increases two folds, trade relationships within the region North and south is on another level as Tanzanian companies are starting to spread their wings outside country. It seems Kenyatta hasn't grasp the whole idea of special relations which comes first and then trade follows. That's how US, Europe and Asia build their economies. If Odinga was the one chosen to lead Kenya, wouldn't has to deal with all these embarrassment Kenyatta brings to Kenyans. Now Madaraka express has become another passenger train line instead of cargo line. One minute is electronic, the next is not. All Africans can come to Kenya visa free, the next he realise oops, we don't have houses, schools, and hospitals to look after all these people. Now he is on another embarrassing mission with Mozambique which South Africa and Tanzania will be happy to kill it before it even started for the benefit of their own industries.
 
Which raw materials does your LDC have that Ethiopia lacks? Your Country is unable to produce enough electricity for your people and you trying to convince us that Ethiopia needs you is more if a wishful fairy tale.

SMH, if you dont know what Tanzania produce them let the one who knows seized the opportunity.
 
Am not looking for help from lowlifes like you. My freedom of speech is guaranteed by kenyan constitution, and Yes Uhuru is a drunkard, a bang smoker and closet homosexual. Wake up! this is not communist china or north korea.
If you catch feelings go and fap, it will relieve your blue balls


Look at this old Tanzanian gay bitch masquerading as a Kenyan to con people, in the first place we did not ask you if Uhuru is gay or not ,if you want him to https://jamii.app/JFUserGuide you kindly approach him. as I said earlier am not in the business of picking up fights with a duffer Tanzania drama queen.
 
Look at this old Tanzanian gay bitch masquerading as a Kenyan to con people, in the first place we did not ask you if Uhuru is gay or not ,if you want him to **** you kindly approach him. as I said earlier am not in the business of picking up fights with a duffer Tanzania drama queen.
When you smoke bang with Uhuru, keep your maddness away from online forums like JF. Bangi sio kìraikù brathee.
 
Am not looking for help from lowlifes like you. My freedom of speech is guaranteed by kenyan constitution, and Yes Uhuru is a drunkard, a bang smoker and closet homosexual. Wake up! this is not communist china or north korea.
If you catch feelings go and fap, it will relieve your blue balls


Which constitution gives you freedom of speech? do you have one in Tanzania? .The despot ******** is the constitution no wonder he murders opposition leaders everyday ,and no one can dare question him,but I understand your bitterness you bitch ,keep advertising your ass on JF perhaps one day you will get a willing client to give a good fvck.
 
Which constitution gives you freedom of speech? do you have one in Tanzania? .The despot ******** is the constitution no wonder he murders opposition leaders everyday ,and no one can dare question him,but I understand your bitterness you bitch ,keep advertising your ass on JF perhaps one day you will get a willing client to give a good fvck.
Tumesema bangi peleka huko ------------------> Nakama una maumivu ya roho, mapoko ni wengi sana SJ, enda ukamue momo moja hapo kwa bill yangu
 
Haha, I love JF this where some of us come to be schooled. Do you know why Ethiopian airline can't fly direct from Addis to Los Angeles or Chicago even if they want to? All those flights have to stop on third country for refuelling. Bole airport being on high altitude the air is very thin to lift large aircraft with maximum payload. This will happen to KQ if they want to fly to far places like Los Angeles and others, unless they choose to start their journey from Mombasa otherwise stop start is the only way. Dar gives us advantage to be able to fly far and wide with single full fuel payload.

Yes Magufuli said what you just about Ethiopia and Tanzania agreement, but he didn't read each and every clause on the agreement. Part of that agreement is Ethiopia will build a huge perishable goods storage, If they want send bulk of their cut flowers to Australia for example, they can do so by transporting them on smaller aircraft Dar, process, and them and ship they to Australia. ATCL also has its own chance to embark on cargo business, in fact we've just completed perishable goods storage facility in JNIA. Not everything you've to use road or rail, some agriculture raw material like sunflower seeds, fish, semi produced starch, raisins for glue etc can be transported by air.

And yes, Magufuli did put ban on agricultural raw material, only to stop the smugglers using our land borders and some using njia za panya. All this was to control our taxes and also to know how much is produced and sold from our country. But the legal export where still doing their business as usual.

Magufuli two years vs Kenyatta five years, soon after was elected, with bad blood with had with west then. He made his first foreign trip to Russia and China, but what did bring home from those trips? Russian was supposed to supply Kenya with cheap fertilizer, how far that deal has went? Maybe not that far. He went to China, there he brought home huge Chinese takeaway, $3.5 bln loan which Chinese use RMB to finance it and kenya has to pay it back in $$$ how clever was that. Kenyatta pushed trade relationship South Africa, Ethiopia, South Sudan even with Uganda, but all that hasn't resulted anything. What about Magufuli two years in office, SGR with our own funds and cheapest loans anyone would rush for, Resurrection of ATCL, cargo in Dar port has increases two folds, trade relationships within the region North and south is on another level as Tanzanian companies are starting to spread their wings outside country. It seems Kenyatta hasn't grasp the whole idea of special relations which comes first and then trade follows. That's how US, Europe and Asia build their economies. If Odinga was the one chosen to lead Kenya, wouldn't has to deal with all these embarrassment Kenyatta brings to Kenyans. Now Madaraka express has become another passenger train line instead of cargo line. One minute is electronic, the next is not. All Africans can come to Kenya visa free, the next he realise oops, we don't have houses, schools, and hospitals to look after all these people. Now he is on another embarrassing mission with Mozambique which South Africa and Tanzania will be happy to kill it before it even started for the benefit of their own industries.
Weldone Mr...
Seems Uhuru can't withstand with JPM definitely & by doing so let's awaits for Magufuli's response.
 
Weldone Mr...
Seems Uhuru can't withstand with JPM definitely & by doing so let's awaits for Magufuli's response.
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Weldone Mr...
Seems Uhuru can't withstand with JPM definitely & by doing so let's awaits for Magufuli's response.

Not on personal level, but professionally yes he can't stand Magufuli's steady focus on development. Magufuli has been undoing everything he has ever thought of. The problem with Kenyatta he thinks like a true businessman, throw money to any problem and it will magically disappear. You can do this on normal business but not on business which is negotiated by politicians.
 
Not on personal level, but professionally yes he can't stand Magufuli's steady focus on development. Magufuli has been undoing everything he has ever thought of. The problem with Kenyatta he thinks like a true businessman, through money to any problem and it will magically disappear. You can do this on normal business but not on business which is negotiated by politicians.
I can tell you pulled this info right out of your arse. Bollocks. Pure rubbish!
 
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