Uhuru Kenyatta: Raila Odinga akishinda uchaguzi tutamuondoa ndani ya miezi mitatu tu

[kizaizai]

Kesha changanyikiwa na hizo ndio roho halisi za watawala wa Afrika.

 

[Beira Boy]

Aisee kwahiyo jamaa anajua atashindwa

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[Ngokongosha]

Kwa kweli huyu ni Baba wa demokrasia haina ubishi

 

[Oii]

Hauhitaji kosa lolote ku-impeach kiongozi .A vote of no confidence is just that and it requires no wrongdoing na hata wakitaka kutafuta kijisababu watapata tu.Remember this man man had a whole election overturned yet he didn't have a solid reason so how do you defend that?

Nonsense.
Mahakama ndio imefanya hayo maamuzi. His solid reasons convinced that judge that you was trying to corrupt, to nullify the election.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Nepotism is a big problem, it gives you president who give flowery prepared speeches,but who are hopelessly irredeemable when giving off the cuff remarks.

Both Raila and Uhuru are products of nepotism.Kenya is fvcked either way.

Uhuru hana lolote.

He is not a democrat as he tries to pass himself off.

Kaanza kwa kamtishia jaji mkuu na sasa anasema kama Raila akishinda watam impeach endapo atashinda.

Kumbe si ajabu hakushinda huo uchaguzi na anajua uchaguzi ukiwa wa huru na haki hawezi kushinda na ndo maana anatapatapa tu sasa hivi.

Sasa sijui wamu impeach Raila kwa sababu au kosa gani?

Kwa vile tu ni Mjaluo na wa chama tofauti?

Uhuru is a fool.

He is acting very thuggish right now.

 

[Al-Watan]

Uhuru hana lolote.

He is not a democrat as he tries to pass himself off.

Kaanza kwa kamtishia jaji mkuu na sasa anasema kama Raila akishinda watam impeach endapo atashinda.

Kumbe si ajabu hakushinda huo uchaguzi na anajua uchaguzi ukiwa wa huru na haki hawezi kushinda na ndo maana anatapatapa tu sasa hivi.

Sasa sijui wamu impeach Raila kwa sababu au kosa gani?

Kwa vile tu ni Mjaluo na wa chama tofauti?

Uhuru is a fool.

He is acting very thuggish right now.

Tatizo siasa za Afrika mostly zimekaa kishabiki shabiki kama ushabiki wa mpira hivi.

Hata rais akitakakuwa democrat, inabidi awe na balls kweli kuwakaripia supporters wake wanaomtaka awe anapelekamambo kwa ubabe.

Mtu kama Uhuru utakuta ni figurehead aliyewekwa hapo na utitiri wa watu, kuanzia kwenye civil service mpaka security apparatus, wakimwona anajaribu kuwa mpole mpole wanamkaripia na kumwambia lazima ulete ubabe hapa, tushinde kwa njia yoyote, tulivyomnyanyasa Raila akija kuwa Rais patakuwa hapatoshi hapa.

The same thing happenned with Mugabe. mugabe was ready to concede defeat,but his security apparatus said no, we can't give the country to Tsvangirai, we will fix the election for you, you stay put.

Sasa mtu na ego ya kibinadamu ukishaona wafuasi wanakupigia debe hivyo, ni vigumu sana kuwa sane na kuamua mambo kwa principle.

Fikiria familia yake tu itakavyom pump, Raila akichukua nchi mashamba yao yote yanaweza kutaifishwa.

I am not excusing him, just explaining how I see it.

 

[Magonjwa Mtambuka]

huyu jamaa sasa ameanza kujikosesha heshima...huyu Kenyatta anavuta nini skuizi?

Wakenya kubalini tu kutawaliwa na Kenyatta dynasty. Hamna namna; hata mfurukute vipi, imekula kwenyu.

 

[Mr. Django]

"BABA wa Demokrasia" - Chadema, 2017

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[kennedy0000]

Uhuru's supporters were getting angry with him for being too 'soft' when answering Raila.
He has now read the signs and has started acting appropriately. You cannot be insulted for 5 consecutive years but always act cool.
When Uhuru says Jubilee has the numbers to impeach Raila, the only people getting angry are the Raila supporters. The ones who Uhuru will never get to vote for him.
So, why bother?
His new strategy is to solidify his base, excite them and show them he is not a weakling.

In any case, he is talking the truth. Nasa should blame no one but themselves for their chaotic nominations and strategy that gave Jubilee such a huge majority.

Total Number of Lost Votes - 0

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Rais wa nchi hung'olewa kwa sababu.

Sasa wamng'oe Raila kwa sababu zipi?

Kwa vile tu ni Mjaluo?

Huyo Uhuru hakushinda huo uchaguzi na sasa anaogopa kuwa atashindwa.

 

[kennedy0000]

Wakenya kubalini tu kutawaliwa na Kenyatta dynasty. Hamna namna; hata mfurukute vipi, imekula kwenyu.

Odinga family imetawala opposition kutoka independence. Familia moja. Baba akakufa, akaachia mwana hapo hapo.
At least kwa Kenyatta, kulikuwa na gap ya miaka 35 kutoka baba akufe na mwana achukuwe hatamu.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Uhuru's supporters were getting angry with him for being too 'soft' when answering Raila.
He has now read the signs and has started acting appropriately. You cannot be insulted for 5 consecutive years but always act cool.
When Uhuru says Jubilee has the numbers to impeach Raila, the only people getting angry are the Raila supporters. The ones who Uhuru will never get to vote for him.
So, why bother?
His new strategy is to solidify his base, excite them and show them he is not a weakling.

In any case, he is talking the truth. Nasa should blame no one but themselves for their chaotic nominations and strategy that gave Jubilee such a huge majority.

Total Number of Lost Votes - 0

But why would they want to impeach Raila if he were to win?

In Kenya you can just impeach the president just because you don't like him and not because he has committed an impeachable offense?

Uhuru is out of his mind. He is a fool.

 

[Al-Watan]

Uhuru's supporters were getting angry with him for being too 'soft' when answering Raila.
He has now read the signs and has started acting appropriately. You cannot be insulted for 5 consecutive years but always act cool.
When Uhuru says Jubilee has the numbers to impeach Raila, the only people getting angry are the Raila supporters. The ones who Uhuru will never get to vote for him.
So, why bother?
His new strategy is to solidify his base, excite them and show them he is not a weakling.

In any case, he is talking the truth. Nasa should blame no one but themselves for their chaotic nominations and strategy that gave Jubilee such a huge majority.

Total Number of Lost Votes - 0

I said as much above in reply to Nyani Ngabu

 

[Al-Watan]

But why would they want to impeach Raila if he were to win?

In Kenya you can just impeach the president just because you don't like him and not because he has committed an impeachable offense?

Uhuru is out of his mind. He is a fool.

The goal here is the presidency.

The implied tenor is that, once Jubilee has the numbers for impeachment,they can cook up anything and make it stick.

I am afraid Kenya could very easily revert to 2007 all over again if this is to go through, as Raila's supporters are not going to sit still.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

The goal here is the presidency.

The implied tenor is that, once Jubilee has the numbers for impeachment,they can cook up anything and make it stick.

I am afraid Kenya could very easily revert to 2007 all over again if this is to go through, as Raila's supporters are not going to sit still.

We rail about Magufuli not being careful with his words and whatnot.

But lately Uhuru is proving not to be far behind with his reckless statements.

I mean, for all I know a president cannot just get impeached unless he/she has committed an impeachable offense.

But I guess in Kenya if they can't beat you at the ballot box they'll beat you in parliament through their tyranny of numbers, just because!

Shame.

 

[kennedy0000]

Now who is the coup plotter???? Eeeh???

Mtu anaogopa atashindwa 17th sasa wameanza kupanga coup before even the election smh!!!

Further more jubilee mps are vowing to change the constitution

Ome of them has suggested scrapping off term limits nimeshangaa!!!.....

I really hope Raila wins and dissolves that parliament for Not being able to reach the 1 third gender rule ......this idiots will burn this country and turn it into a dictatorship for power..
Uhuru has nearly 660,000 acres of land allegedly in his possession mbona anakuja kutusumbua hivi???

Some entire countries like israel only have 1mn acres making 36bn$ in agric sales .......am stunned by their selfish interest!!!.....

Muongo wewe.

Impeachment is a legal process. Kama unashida ya kiingereza omba usaidizi. A coup is what Raila attempted in 1982.

Not one Jubilee member has 'vowed' to change the constitution. They have said they have the numbers necessary, in a bid to emphasize how idiotic Raila's claims that he won are. You have a super majority but somehow Raila won.

Which one talked about scrapping term limits? Don't be a spreader of fake news. That would require a referendum and I'm sure Ruto and everyone else hoping to be president would not be on board.

So, you want Raila to win but because he does not have numbers in parliament to even change the TV channel, he dissolves parliament? Because we don't have work to do but to hold elections every 2 years.

Raila has a 1 billion house in Riat Hill, Kisumu. Mbona anatusumbua hivi?
Jubilee is the only government to start a large scale irrigation project. Unlike Israel, they are doing so without tens of billions of dollars of US aid money.

Mzee Raila has disturbed this country for many years. And the problem with these civil rights campaigners like Raila is they are good in politics and extremely bad in development. Even for the 5 years he was in Kibaki's government, he was still opposing everything. It's in his blood and dna. Good thing the curtain has fallen on the Odinga dynasty.
The fought for some of our rights today, but misunderstood that to mean that Kenyans trust them to run an economy.

I pray he will bow out honorably next month.

 

[Magonjwa Mtambuka]

Odinga family imetawala opposition kutoka independence. Familia moja. Baba akakufa, akaachia mwana hapo hapo.
At least kwa Kenyatta, kulikuwa na gap ya miaka 35 kutoka baba akufe na mwana achukuwe hatamu.

Vyovyote vile. Sawa tu. Shauri yenu.

 

[kennedy0000]

But why would they want to impeach Raila if he were to win?

In Kenya you can just impeach the president just because you don't like him and not because he has committed an impeachable offense?

Uhuru is out of his mind. He is a fool.

Do you even understand the context?

Uhuru said, "Even IF Raila were to be elected, Jubilee has the opportunity to impeach him."
He added that Raila has no numbers to conduct any business in parliament or senate.

In short, Uhuru is trying to explain in simple language, that Raila is wasting everyone's time with this fresh election thing because he lost from MCA, to MP to Senator to Governor.

If you were to engage your mind a little bit, you would understand that Uhuru is saying, "If Jubilee has enough numbers to impeach a president, and almost enough to ammend the constitution, then how can a reasonable person claim that Raila won on August 8th?"
Kenyans woke up on that day, voted Jubilee from the toes to the neck, but somehow voted Nasa as the head? Nonsense.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Do you even understand the context?

Uhuru said, "Even IF Raila were to be elected, Jubilee has the opportunity to impeach him."
He added that Raila has no numbers to conduct any business in parliament or senate.

In short, Uhuru is trying to explain in simple language, that Raila is wasting everyone's time with this fresh election thing because he lost from MCA, to MP to Senator to Governor.

If you were to engage your mind a little bit, you would understand that Uhuru is saying, "If Jubilee has enough numbers to impeach a president, and almost enough to ammend the constitution, then how can a reasonable person claim that Raila won on August 8th?"
Kenyans woke up on that day, voted Jubilee from the toes to the neck, but vote Nasa as the head? Nonsense.

But impeach him for what though?

Just because?

Don't you have to commit an impeachable offense before you can get impeached?

Or in Kenya you can just impeach the president if one party has enough numbers to do so?

I'm sorry but that statement was reckless.

 

[kennedy0000]

But impeach him for what though?

Just because?

Don't you have to commit an impeachable offense before you can get impeach?

Or in Kenya you can just impeach the president if one party has enough numbers to do so?

I'm sorry but that statement was reckless.

Context context context. Kizungu ngumu ama?

Uhuru said they have enough numbers to impeach. Kumaanisha Jubilee performed so well on August 8th that they got a super-majority.
He was emphasizing a point.
The point being Raila lost fair and square, from MCA to MP to Senator... everything including the presidency.
Alafu Raila akasema ameibiwa..
Which president has ever won, but his party managed just a quarter of the MPs?

If you proceed with Uhuru's speech, he says that this fresh election will only be a wastage of Sh14 billion which could have been used to build roads and hospitals.
In short, he is angry with Raila for failing to accept defeat, even in the face of overwhelming evidence.