Uhuru wants China to fund half of SGR for free

Uhuru wants China to fund half of SGR for free

Ndio wanawaita monkeys hao, hadi Rais Uhuru.

Nimekua nikishangaa nikijiuliza kwanini mkataba wa SGR phase 2B an China bado haujatiwa saini hadi sasa. Kumbe alipofika China amends kugeuza dili.
Tangu mwezi jana nimekua nikisema kwamba Kenya inataka Uganda igarimikie kulipia sehemu ya Kisumu to Malaba. Sasa inasemekana Kenya inataka China igarimikie nusu (agleast $1.9B) ya SGR phase 2B kutoka Naivasha hadi kisumu.. Kama kweli wako serious na hii one belt one road .



Why Kenya wants China to pay half the cost of SGR extension


Kenya wants Beijing to foot half of the cost of extending the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) to Kisumu, in what could be the latest move by Nairobi to slow down on debt.
During a bilateral meeting with China’s Xi Jinping, President Uhuru Kenyatta indicated that the cost of the 270km extension should be split into a loan and a grant to relieve the country.
A source in the Presidency privy to the discussions said the President wants China to arrange the financing, but only as long as Nairobi pays just half the cost.
“The Naivasha-Kisumu phase of the SGR will cost $3.8 billion. And owing to its regional significance, I would request that 50 per cent of its cost be provided as part of grant financing,” President Kenyatta told his host.
The meeting, the third on Chinese soil, was expected to secure financing deals for infrastructure.
RESPONSIBLE BORROWING
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But facing critics back home for alleged irresponsible borrowing, President Kenyatta’s bid, if accepted by Beijing, could mean taxpayers will foot only half of the estimated Sh380 billion railroad.
The President was telling his host about Nairobi’s readiness to play into China’s Belt and Road Initiative, President Xi’s policy vision to connect Eurasia, Africa, Europe and the Americas through trade and infrastructure.
The Standard Gauge Railway, whose first phase from Mombasa to Nairobi was completed last year at a cost of Sh327 billion, is supposed to pass through Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda and the DRC. It is part of China’s long-term vision to access resources in the interior of Africa.
OPENING CHINA
“The SGR sits very well on the Belt and Road Initiative. It commences the envisaged land bridge between the Indian and Atlantic Oceans, opening up the interior for trade and investment across seven countries, and opening China to Central Africa, and further on, beyond the Atlantic Ocean,” the President said.
If China provides a Sh190 billion grant, Beijing will not demand pay could still squeeze in a deal to ensure the Chinese firms benefit from the project.
But President Kenyatta told his host that the construction of the railroad should have, as a by-product, improved human skills and training.
The Mombasa-Nairobi SGR route is operated by Chinese firm China Road and Bridge, even as Kenyans repay the loan. The Chinese are also completing the second phase from Nairobi to Naivasha at a cost of Sh150 billion.
SH5.1 TRILLION DEBT
But with public debt reaching Sh5.1 trillion, President Uhuru Kenyatta’s delegation also proposed a change in the public private partnership (PPP) in financing for other infrastructural projects. PPP might prevent the public from choking under a huge repayment bill, but critics say the projects might actually cost more as the financiers recoup their money operating them for some time.
For example, Kenya secured a PPP deal to build a 30-kilometre expressway from the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport to Westlands in Nairobi.
The road is to be financed by China, but Beijing will do the tolling until it recoups its money.
The President has been attending the 7th Summit of the Focus on China-Africa Cooperation (FOCAC), a three-yearly conference where Beijing meets African leaders.
 

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Huyo UK atakua alidanganywa kuwa awe firm kwa waChina pale alipoenda Marekani na pale alipokutana na Theresa, inaonekana intelijensia ya waChina imepata hayo yote plus maneno ya akina Prof. Ndii and the folks, kuna mengi yanendelea chini chini....

China hawataki kulaumiwa kuwa wanawatrap waafrika na toxic loans...kazi ipo!
 
Kafrican stop lying to people, He went into the meeting expecting to get the SGR loan but he was denied, Chinese told him to Redo the whole feasibilty study not Just from Naivasha to Kisumu but of the whole Railway from Mombasa to Kisumu before they discuss any funding.
To put it in pespective,CRBC is the same company that did the feasibility and now the chinese Gvt seems not to believe that report.
In other words, The Rail will stagnate at Naivasha.
Watch CS macharia's speak after the meeting
Kazi yao hao ni kudanganya kila kitu ili waonekane wapo vizuri wakati nchi inazidi kufilisika
 
Watanzania wengine wanaumia sana ila mtazidi kuisoma namba, nyie endeleeni kusaini mikataba ya uvuvi pale kijiji cha uvuvi Dar sluum.
 
Watanzania wengine wanaumia sana ila mtazidi kuisoma namba, nyie endeleeni kusaini mikataba ya uvuvi pale kijiji cha uvuvi Dar sluum.
Kusoma namba kwa kudanganya wakati China pia imewashtukia hamkopesheki?. Failed state
 
Kusoma namba kwa kudanganya wakati China pia imewashtukia hamkopesheki?. Failed state
Kusoma namba kwa kudanganya wakati China pia imewashtukia hamkopesheki?. Failed state
Mbona aliondoka na mbwembwe nyingi kuwakilisha Kenya na Africa nzima,imekuaje anatoka ukumbini na koti limelowa au hakupata RUZUKU
 
Kafrican stop lying to people, He went into the meeting expecting to get the SGR loan but he was denied, Chinese told him to Redo the whole feasibilty study not Just from Naivasha to Kisumu but of the whole Railway from Mombasa to Kisumu before they discuss any funding.
To put it in pespective,CRBC is the same company that did the feasibility and now the chinese Gvt seems not to believe that report.
In other words, The Rail will stagnate at Naivasha.
Watch CS macharia's speak after the meeting

That’s one way to look at it. On the other side of the same coin, it could be that now that they have been asked to fund half of it, they are only now interested in strictier due diligence. Remember CRBC/CCCC are state companies 100% owned by the Chinese government, anything they due has blessings from the government.


But it’s non of those two scenarios, people just like running their mouth... the feasibility report for Naivasha-Kisumu is not out. What used to happen b4 was that the feasibility study was done for each segment independently.. I.e, they first did the study for phase 1 then later for phase 2A, then phase 2B ..... What they Chinese now want is one feasibility study document for the whole route. Which is good actually cause once it’s done funding for the whole route will be given at once instead of constructing in phases. In fact, I would recommend they just do one feasibility study up to Kampala and get it over with.

Remember, a feasibility study is not just for checking the economic viability of a project. (The Northern corridor is the busiest corridor in east and central Africa so off course it’s feasible what they might decide to change are things like if they should continue with ‘class 1’ rail to Uganda or downgrade to “class II” for the rest of the section like the cheaper Ethiopian rail funded by the same bank)

. The moment the Chinese saw that Kenya wanted China to fund half of phase 2B for free, the Chinese must have feared that Kenya wanted a reason to pull out, so they are now making sure one feasibility study for the whole route binds Kenya to Chinese dependency because afeasibility report done at the behest of the Chinese govt also binds the whole route to the Chinese constructor bcoz if Kenya decided to pull out and find funding from somewhere else then they would have to conduct another study with another financier who will take over.
 
Mpende msipende, Uhuru aliambulia patupu kwa SGR funding, Hata Hiyo Mombasa to Nairobi akaambiwa na wachina kwamba hesabu zake za matarajio ni gushi, alete hesabu mpya
Loan inaanza kulipia 2020! Unataka nikuletee takwimu na hesabu za hio ripoti iliotumika kutafuta funding alafu tulinganishe na growth rate ya mizogo inayochukuliwa na SGR kwa sasa tuone Kama hio target itafikiwa au la????
Watu wanapenda kuropokwa sana !
 
Loan inaanza kulipia 2020! Unataka nikuletee takwimu na hesabu za hio ripoti iliotumika kutafuta funding alafu tulinganishe na growth rate ya mizogo inayochukuliwa na SGR kwa sasa tuone Kama hio target itafikiwa au la????
Watu wanapenda kuropokwa sana !
Wewe wasema watu wanaropoka, wakati we mwenyewe unaspeculate. Leta hiyo ripoti na takwimu halafu ujenge hoja vizuri.
Hata hivyo usiumie sana, kupoteza kwenye negotiation hua inatokea wakati mwingine. Just own it and move on. Tanzanian officials unlike Uhuru and his genge are very serious when it comes to negotiation ( especially under Magufuli).
Uhuru is not serious, he likes being a president. He doesn't care about the responsibilities, he just like the title. He thinks he was born to be a president.
 
Wewe wasema watu wanaropoka, wakati we mwenyewe unaspeculate. Leta hiyo ripoti na takwimu halafu ujenge hoja vizuri.
Hata hivyo usiumie sana, kupoteza kwenye negotiation hua inatokea wakati mwingine. Just own it and move on. Tanzanian officials unlike Uhuru and his genge are very serious when it comes to negotiation ( especially under Magufuli).
Uhuru is not serious, he likes being a president. He doesn't care about the responsibilities, he just like the title. He thinks he was born to be a president.
You mean this kind of negotiation where you give up things for free? Dar surrenders Bagamoyo port project to Chinese


Do you even know what you gave up in order to get the oil pipeline?

Why did you slap Acacia a $190B fine if you have been so good at negotiating?

JPM mwenyewe amesema kulingana na dili mlizopiga na makampuni ...70% ya gesi ya Tz inaenda kwa mabepari na kubakisha 30% kwa watz....

Ukweli ni kwamba Tanzania imekua shamba la bibi kwa mabepari for a long time... ndo maana hadi wa Leo bado nchi maskini.... we mwenyewe unafaa ujiulize Swali simple tu. How can a $55B economy slap a $190B fine on a single company???? How stupid could you have been to loose all that money to just one company?????
 
Loan inaanza kulipia 2020! Unataka nikuletee takwimu na hesabu za hio ripoti iliotumika kutafuta funding alafu tulinganishe na growth rate ya mizogo inayochukuliwa na SGR kwa sasa tuone Kama hio target itafikiwa au la????
Watu wanapenda kuropokwa sana !
Unajaribu na kutumia nguvu nyingi sana kwa jambo lilo wazi, Kenya haina mfadhili wa SGR kwa sasa, huo ndio ukweli.
Ya kusikitisha ni kwamba Uganda wamejitoa kwa hiyo route kabisa, wameamua ku upgrade MTR gauge yao
 
You mean this kind of negotiation where you give up things for free? Dar surrenders Bagamoyo port project to Chinese


Do you even know what you gave up in order to get the oil pipeline?

Why did you slap Acacia a $190B fine if you have been so good at negotiating?

JPM mwenyewe amesema kulingana na dili mlizopiga na makampuni ...70% ya gesi ya Tz inaenda kwa mabepari na kubakisha 30% kwa watz....

Ukweli ni kwamba Tanzania imekua shamba la bibi kwa mabepari for a long time... ndo maana hadi wa Leo bado nchi maskini.... we mwenyewe unafaa ujiulize Swali simple tu. How can a $55B economy slap a $190B fine on a single company???? How stupid could you have been to loose all that money to just one company?????
Ulitarajia Bagamoyo ikae hivyo bila uwekezaji? Tanzania ipo na port nyingi zikiwemo za zanzibar.Serikali haina pesa za umma za kujenga kila port, maana sasa PPP.Kuna haja gani ardhi ikae hivyo bila biashara yeyote ilihali muwekezaji anaweza kodi na serikali ipate pesa pamoja na kutoza ushuru wa bandari?
Ukilinganisha ardhi ambayo kenya imekodisha watu binafsi na hata hawana biashara ya maana ambayo wanafanyia utapatwa na mstuko
 
Ulitarajia Bagamoyo ikae hivyo bila uwekezaji? Tanzania ipo na port nyingi zikiwemo za zanzibar.Serikali haina pesa za umma za kujenga kila port, maana sasa PPP.Kuna haja gani ardhi ikae hivyo bila biashara yeyote ilihali muwekezaji anaweza kodi na serikali ipate pesa pamoja na kutoza ushuru wa bandari?
Ukilinganisha ardhi ambayo kenya imekodisha watu binafsi na hata hawana biashara ya maana ambayo wanafanyia utapatwa na mstuko
Tatizo ni litakuja ile siku bagamoyo itakua successful Kama vile ilivyo kua envisaged, hizo bandari zote nyengine mlizojenga na hela zenu zitapoteza mapato kwa bagamoyo ambayo itakua ni bandari ya kibinafsi ambayo Serekali itakua haina control, Banda ya Kia hizo bandari nyengine zote watabaki monopoly, wakiamua kupandisha service charge itakua hamna budi ila kulipa
 
Tatizo ni litakuja ile siku bagamoyo itakua successful Kama vile ilivyo kua envisaged, hizo bandari zote nyengine mlizojenga na hela zenu zitapoteza mapato kwa bagamoyo ambayo itakua ni bandari ya kibinafsi ambayo Serekali itakua haina control, Banda ya Kia hizo bandari nyengine zote watabaki monopoly, wakiamua kupandisha service charge itakua hamna budi ila kulipa
Muwekezaji yeyote anayefanya biashara Tz anafanya chini ya sheria za Tz. By-laws za bandari zote ziwe private owned or Gvt or PPP like bagamoyo zote zipo chini ya sheria za Tz..
Unacholenga hapa ukisema Kwaba Tz imewapatia bandari ni porojo..
Unafaa kuwa una shangilia kwaba Tanzania Private sector is now waking up big time..maana socialism iliwaweka pahali pabaya kwa private sector
 
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