Uhuru's Helpless Posture on Corruption Is Disgusting

MK254 said:

As much as I agree with him being capped by the rule of law and the constitution, and the need for the institutions to do their job, I felt let down by him admitting his frustrations so blatantly in the national TV. He is the authority, the center and him standing there so helplessly just sent panic across the whole nation.

He should bark, chest thump, shout, threaten and be seen to be in control like uncle Magu down-south.
The constitution limits him right, but he still has a lot at his disposal, he has the NIS that he should be using to gather intelligence on the corrupt cartels and fight them through other means without creating much fireworks.

I don't even know what am complaining about, hey people we have a situation and must deal with it as a nation. Seeing those institutional heads passing the buck at each other so defensively, dampened my spirit on this war. The judicially blaming it on the investigators and lack of resources to hasten cases, police head burying his head on the sand so shamelessly...... people we have it on our hands.

Anyway it's a good start, has generated a nationwide debate, however not sure what impact this will have, or the outcome, or the way forward but let's talk, scream, vent our anger, shout....somewhere down the bumpy ride, it might get better.

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Uncle Magu isn't barking, he is a real bulldog. If you get the wrong side of uncle Magu, you will be sorry that you have ever imagined.

Back to Kenya.
You guys need to drop your constitution, its not working. But Uhuru has disgraced Kenya today, this will create lot of headlines across the world and may scare foreign investors.

He should step down, he is clueless. Does he know what kind of damage he has suffered Kenya's image both regionally and internationally?

MK254 said:

I would vouch for our model a thousand times, a constitutional order and power on institutions has always been the best way and has been tested all over the world. The Tanzanian model is way far behind us, we were there eons ago. It's history to us and we will never wish for it. Don't drag us back.

Despite Magufuli having the powers to hire and fire at the slightest whim, can you point out any high profile corruption cases he has helped to curtail. The records are still there in the open, the likes of Lugumi, Escrow, IPTL etc the beneficiaries of these vices are still walking free in the current regime and holding offices.

You always hide behind narrations that these rottennesses happened during the previous administration, but it's a known fact Magu inherited all the dirt from that regime, including beneficiaries who are seating pretty.

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Look its up to you! while we do the best we can to keep our house in order you keep on drawing unnecessary comparisons to maintain what is obviously useless constitution. Tanzania model isn't a paragon of excellence but it works for us, and we love it as it is. Nyie mnajifanya eti we are too far....simply because you are too corrupt and dishonest therefore unable to accept mistakes. Yes, your constitution is great but so unfit to effectively address the current challenges Kenya faces and so many other issues Kenya must confront to turn your country around.

Tanzania tunasubiri Court ya Mafisadi ainze, kuna watu zaidi ya 3,000 wanapanda kizimbani, kwa ufisadi, uhujumu uchumi, lengo ni kutaifisha mali zao zipatazo karibu $2.5billion, $500million itaenda kwa Mahakama na $2 billion kwaajili ya kununua ndege za AirTanzania, mpango ni kununua ndege zaidi ya Kumi kubwa. Yes, we are not perfect but mwanzo mzuri pia Raisi wetu aliilii kama mtoto yatima.

Kesho kwenye magazeti angalia hasa ya nnje, mnawapa chance ya kuwaongelea vibaya, what useless president.

God help us. I had to stop watching the video!!! The guy is whining and seems to blaim others. For Gods sake the chief justice can not jail anybody when your DPP and Attorney general bring half baked cases to court kwa nia moja tu! no conviction will happen na wewe you are first in line defending waiguru thief no. 1 in kenya!! bure kabisa.....

Uhuru n Umoja said:

Uncle Magu isn't barking, he is a real bulldog. If you get the wrong side of uncle Magu, you will be sorry that you have ever imagined.

Back to Kenya.
You guys need to drop your constitution, its not working. But Uhuru has disgraced Kenya today, this will create lot of headlines across the world and may scare foreign investors.

He should step down, he is clueless. Does he know what kind of damage he has suffered Kenya's image both regionally and internationally?

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my friend you and Uhuru are in the same basket. its not the constitution, its the implementer. a constitution is a set of laws which cant work without implementation and good will.

Rais wetu hataki na hajawai kuwa upande wa katiba. just check him and his deputy kuhusu campaign ya uzao wa katiba. the deputy was leading the NO camp. Uhuru was supporting shingo upande!! back to magufuli and tz constitution.

TZ has one of the weakest katibas in afrika. TZ kwa sasa ni good will ya rais tu. Jakaya kikwete alikuwepo mbona hiyo katiba haikufanya kazi. wait until you get another weak president story itakuwa ile ile ya JK.

Its not a the constitution, its the implementer who matters. A constitution is a set of laws which cant work without implementation and good will.

Rais wetu hataki na hajawai kuwa upande wa katiba. just check him and his deputy kuhusu campaign ya uzao wa katiba. the deputy was leading the NO camp. Uhuru was supporting shingo upande!! back to magufuli and tz constitution.

TZ has one of the weakest katibas in afrika. TZ kwa sasa ni good will ya rais tu. Jakaya kikwete alikuwepo mbona hiyo katiba haikufanya kazi. wait until you get another weak president story itakuwa ile ile ya JK.

For the critics of the Kenyan constitution, you should know that it has been termed as the best in all developing countries, and better than most other constitution s in the developed world.

Even so, We must appreciate that it is a very sophisticated one and as such it will take about 20years to be completely effective. Transition from one constitution to another is not an overnight affair. It takes time and a lot of commitment and money.

However when it finally takes off, Kenya's legal landscape will be miles ahead of its peers (Nigeria, South Africa and Egypt).

Oh and about corruption, I'm a staunch supporter of Uhuru Kenyatta, but i still feel he has not done enough to fight this monster of corruption. It even appears as though he's condoning it.
As a president he can and must do better.

Uhuru n Umoja said:

Look its up to you! while we do the best we can to keep our house in order you keep on drawing unnecessary comparisons to maintain what is obviously useless constitution. Tanzania model isn't a paragon of excellence but it works for us, and we love it as it is. Nyie mnajifanya eti we are too far....simply because you are too corrupt and dishonest therefore unable to accept mistakes. Yes, your constitution is great but so unfit to effectively address the current challenges Kenya faces and so many other issues Kenya must confront to turn your country around.

Tanzania tunasubiri Court ya Mafisadi ainze, kuna watu zaidi ya 3,000 wanapanda kizimbani, kwa ufisadi, uhujumu uchumi, lengo ni kutaifisha mali zao zipatazo karibu $2.5billion, $500million itaenda kwa Mahakama na $2 billion kwaajili ya kununua ndege za AirTanzania, mpango ni kununua ndege zaidi ya Kumi kubwa. Yes, we are not perfect but mwanzo mzuri pia Raisi wetu aliilii kama mtoto yatima.

Kesho kwenye magazeti angalia hasa ya nnje, mnawapa chance ya kuwaongelea vibaya, what useless president.

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Unachofanya ni siasa tu bila kutumia facts, wacha hizo hadithi za mtafanya mtafanya, mara mahakama ya mafisadi. Nataka facts, kwamba ni viongozi wangapi wa nyanja ya juu ambao Magu amefunga gerezani kwa ufisadi, zaidi ya kushtukiza watendaji wa chini.
Sisi hapa mawaziri wanne wamepigwa chini kwa kutajwa tu kwenye ufisadi. Yaani ukitajwa tu, hata haisubiriwi uthibitisho, unapigwa chini na ndivyo isemavyo katiba yetu.

Mafisadi wote walioitafuna nchi yenu bado wanapeta, wengi wapo kwenye uongozi wa sasa bado mnaimba kuhusu mahakama ya mafisadi.

i was going to pass over this...but no. no way. Mr President is wrong. First and foremost it is in bad taste to laugh at the auditor general who is the one exposing the rot. Mwangi Kiunjuri was appointed by the president and approved by the Parliament, he is today linked to graft. F@~K IT..I don't care if parliament says there is a procedure or what not, I would fire his ass like yesterday and if the constitution speaks of a procedure, i would influence the procedure so much that the culprit wouldn't know what hit him. I would convene a meeting with my Judicial system and ensure that all current graft cases whether with sufficient or insufficient evidence are ruled against the culprits and maximum sentence given in all cases. THEN after that, start afresh. That to me would be the boldest statement to all corrupt officials and anyone else wanting to be employed by government for the sole purpose of eating!!! I'VE NEVER BEEN SO DISAPPOINTED AND IRRITATED BY OREZO LIKE THIS.

saadeque said:

uhuru and magufuli are in two different cicurmstances.....dont compare the two.uhuru's power is limited by the constitution while magufuli is the constitution

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Huo ni uwongo mtupu. It's an excuse used by the govt. so as not to perform. Kwani hao wezi are not being limited by the constitution?

The govt. is in charge of the Kenya police; kwanini wasitumie Kenya police kupigana na ufisadi ikiwa EACC wamekuwa zuzu?

4 Years after the two were elected we do not have a foresinc laboratory in Kenya. The head of the Banking Fraud Unit is himself a thief; pia hiyo you will blame the Constitution na Judiciary?

Kama constitution ni mbaya, why can't he propose an amendment? Hizi kelele za uvivu tu.

Gitimu Peter said:

For the critics of the Kenyan constitution, you should know that it has been termed as the best in all developing countries, and better than most other constitution s in the developed world.

Even so, We must appreciate that it is a very sophisticated one and as such it will take about 20years to be completely effective. Transition from one constitution to another is not an overnight affair. It takes time and a lot of commitment and money.

However when it finally takes off, Kenya's legal landscape will be miles ahead of its peers (Nigeria, South Africa and Egypt).

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Hehehe..who has termed it as "the best"? A lie repeated 100 times doesn't become the truth.

And where do you get the 20 year figure?

The reason why this constitution can't take off is because it was made by people who knew nothing but to copy paste. which country in the world can de-link the implementation of education policy from the Executive? How dumb can a lawyer be and still breathe?

There is very little that is beautiful about this trash document called the constitution. Many Kenyans who support it haven't even read it. Heck, just ask any guy who voted for this constitution to tell you the national values outlined in the constitution and you'd be ashamed of the level of collective ignorance of the country.

All in all, Uhuru should not blame the constitution; the problem with him is that he is a people pleaser who loves incompetence to the core. He appointed Boinnet - an incompetent officer - solely because of his sub-tribe. And he is blaming the Judiciary? Very dumb.

MK254 said:

I would vouch for our model a thousand times, a constitutional order and power on institutions has always been the best way and has been tested all over the world. The Tanzanian model is way far behind us, we were there eons ago. It's history to us and we will never wish for it. Don't drag us back.

Despite Magufuli having the powers to hire and fire at the slightest whim, can you point out any high profile corruption cases he has helped to curtail. The records are still there in the open, the likes of Lugumi, Escrow, IPTL etc the beneficiaries of these vices are still walking free in the current regime and holding offices.

You always hide behind narrations that these rottennesses happened during the previous administration, but it's a known fact Magu inherited all the dirt from that regime, including beneficiaries who are seating pretty.

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Your assertion is like of one who praises his cat that is very beautiful..... but surprisingly, his own house which he lives with his cat is full of rats......
Brother, how can you be proud of a constitution which shields the corruption suspects... Inatia hasira sana

MK254 said:

I would vouch for our model a thousand times, a constitutional order and power on institutions has always been the best way and has been tested all over the world. The Tanzanian model is way far behind us, we were there eons ago. It's history to us and we will never wish for it. Don't drag us back.

Despite Magufuli having the powers to hire and fire at the slightest whim, can you point out any high profile corruption cases he has helped to curtail. The records are still there in the open, the likes of Lugumi, Escrow, IPTL etc the beneficiaries of these vices are still walking free in the current regime and holding offices.

You always hide behind narrations that these rottennesses happened during the previous administration, but it's a known fact Magu inherited all the dirt from that regime, including beneficiaries who are seating pretty.

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The Magufuli administration has charged former TRA Commissioner General along with two accomplices (former bank employees) with money laundering and economic espionage in the EGMA scandal. The case is ongoing but is one example of a high profile prosecution.

eliakeem said:

Your assertion is like of one who praises his cat that is very beautiful..... but surprisingly, his own house which he lives with his cat is full of rats......
Brother, how can you be proud of a constitution which shields the corruption suspects... Inatia hasira sana

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We have the best constitution in Africa, and it doesn't protect or abet corruption. The onus is for us Kenyans to live to its tenets. Leo hii mpokezaji rushwa na anayepokea wakishirikiana, hamna mfumo wala uongozi ambao unaweza kuzuia hilo. Tuache unafiki sote na kujirekebisha wenyewe kwanza. Hata rais abweke vipi, au katiba iwe nzuri vipi, kama wenyewe hatutabadilika, hamna hatua tunayoweza kupiga ya kweli.

Hapo Bongo Magu anatoa mikwara na kuongea ongea sana, lakini ukiingia maofisini mahali rushwa inacheza, hana uwezo wa kufika huko. Labda ashutkize tu mara moja moja, lakini hawezi kuwabadilisha Watanzania kwa kuongea ongea. Wengine hata wana ujasiri wa kuanzisha akaunti ya benki ili wapokee hela za misaada ya tetemeko la ardhi. Watu wenyewe wakiwa wa hivyo, roho nyeusi na kuwa na ujasiri kiasi hicho, hamna chochote rais au katiba inaweza kubadilisha.

Wanakamatwa wachache lakini wengi wanapiga hela tu maana ni mazoea, mtu akila nyama ya binadamu kumbadilisha ni vigumu sana. Huyo Magu na waziri mkuu wamefanya kushtukiza hapo bandarini mara kadhaa, lakini hata baada ya kufuta, kila wakirudi wanakuta uovu ni ule ule tu.

Hapa Kenya taswira ndio hiyo, hadi mijitu ya Kiafrika tubadilike na kutambua kila tunapotoa rushwa au kupokea, tunawanyima haki ndugu zetu wanaohitaji huduma. Kila tunapokwepa kulipa kodi hilo tendo linaua ndugu zetu kwenye mahospitali. Tusikae na kutegemea rais au katiba zitubadilishe, tubadilike wenyewe kwanza halafu kwa katiba nzuri kama ya kwetu hii tutajikuta kwenye ulimwengu wa kwanza.

Dudu Baya said:

The Magufuli administration has charged former TRA Commissioner General along with two accomplices (former bank employees) with money laundering and economic espionage in the EGMA scandal. The case is ongoing but is one example of a high profile prosecution.

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Two bank employees???? A former commissioner??? Give me a break, a commissioner is just a puppet in any government organization, until you get hold of dark forces, high profile individual behind the puppet, you're just going round a huge baobab tree.

MK254 said:

Two bank employees???? A former commissioner??? Give me a break, a commissioner is just a puppet in any government organization, until you get hold of dark forces, high profile individual behind the puppet, you're just going round a huge baobab tree.

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Brother, why are you keep on keeping me embracing something which is nonstarter? If the mother law of the land does not give the head of the state the legal muscles to fight grafts, why don't you drop it???

eliakeem said:

Brother, why are you keep on keeping me embracing something which is nonstarter? If the mother law of the land does not give the head of the state the legal muscles to fight grafts, why don't you drop it???

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The war against graft is a multi-pronged onslaught, president is only supposed to provide political goodwill, but there are other players involved namely prosecutors, judges, investigators etc. You seem to think a president walking in on junior officers in their offices unannounced with a battery of journalists, is the most efficient way of fighting corruption.

It must be noted, corruption is deeply entrenched in our societies, givers and takers collude to defeat justice, we are surrounded by corrupt law enforcers, corrupt lawyers, corrupt judges, corrupt politicians and so on, but all pointing fingers so hypocritically, and this is happening everywhere even in Tanzania. I've lived in your country and I know you people so well, kwanza nyie wengi wenu wakwepa kodi wakubwa, nilishangaa sana hata Watanzania wasomi ukimtajia umuhimu wa kulipa kodi ananuna balaa.

A president can bark and spew threats and rhetoric, but we need to reflect and take a longer look deep inside ourselves.

MwendaOmo said:

Just watched the statehouse summit on corruption and I couldn't have been more disgusted.

A whole president complaining about corruption, blaming the Judges and what not that he has done everything and nothing seems to be moving. What kind of nonsense is this? If he too goes on complaining, what does he expect the rest of us to do?

Expecting that "Independent bodies " which are themselves useless bodies filled with thieves will fight corruption is to be naive of him. Now the thieves will get bolder. Waste of time this man is. We are borrowing 800 Million shillings a day and this guy doesn't even see it as his SOLE responsibility to protect this nation from thieves who are looting us dry?

Magufuli with all his faults, is a much better choice that Uhuru who has perfected the art of complaining and warning thieves. His deputy - Ule jamaa wa "My friend", is not any better. Such a sad state of affairs.

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This is the guy who defended QUEEN ANN WAIGURU...I hope we get a new president next year

MK254
All you said are correct. But a stronghold political will is of utmost important. We don't expect the president to be the only player of the war against graft, but the master of the bandwagon. Now if the master is losing hope, what do you expect to others??

eliakeem said:

MK254
All you said are correct. But a stronghold political will is of utmost important. We don't expect the president to be the only player of the war against graft, but the master of the bandwagon. Now if the master is losing hope, what do you expect to others??

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I hold no brief for Uhuru, but at the same time am listening to him soberly, he is not losing hope, but asking responsible constitutional institutions to deliver. Right now there are 600 corruption cases in court, the judges are blaming it on police and DPP for handing them weak cases with so many holes. Police are blaming it on investigators for not doing their jobs effectively, consequently investigators are blaming anti-corruption institution EACC.

The buck is being passed between the various organisations nonchalantly. EACC caused him to drop four of his government ministers, on accusation of being corrupt, but up to now, non of them has been jailed or found culpable apart from hearing names being mentioned here and there.

I think he should have called the various institutional heads in secret meeting and strategize together and come up with a workable solution of hastening the wheels of justice. What he did was purely PR exercise, he simply copied or borrowed a leaf from president Magufuli of calling in media into a publicity stunt. Just wanting to be seen blameless but work is still not delivered.
A leader must take the blame graciously, whether culpable or not, as a nation we have him as our punching bag, he can't deviate or watch from a safe distance. He has to take the political responsibility. Asking DPP or DCI or judiciary what they want from him in full glare of the media, that was trying to avoid our prodding. He should have called them secretly and discussed those stuffs with them and have them swing into action with full political blessing from him.