Uraia wa nchi mbili: Maendelo na Matokeo yake!

Great idea!!....bravo tz! Tunataka damu mpya viongozi wenye mawazo mapya!!

Mashaka makubwa iwapo uraia wa nchi mbili unaweza kumaliza matatizo yetu. Kumbuka kuwa wengi mlidhani ubepari ungeweza kuondoa matatizo yetu; lakini leo............ nyote ni mashahidi.
My take: dual citizenship is yet another ploy, surely nothing will come out of it.
 
My biggest concern is on the international mafia also eagerly waiting for the golden opportunity to acquire citizens rights to seal their ownership of the wealthy of the country in the face of a weak government riddled with corruption and mediocrity. I even suspect these could be the real force behind this move this time luckily aided and abetted by the genuine desire of real Tanzanians living abroad.
 
@Jayfour_King

naomba ututumie habari mpya za hii Dual citizenship
kama kuna taarifa mpya nyingine zimetoka.. cheers:smile:
 
Dual Citizenship ni sawa kuoa wake wawili, yupi utamtumikia sana?Dual citizenship is not solution to our problems
 

U got my hand shake brother. its a real opportunity to wezi wa kimataifa...
 
Kuna masharti yapi yanawekwa au kuna limitations zipi zinawekwa kwa mtu atakayekuwa na uraia wa nchi 2? Je anaruhusiwa kushika nafasi za kisiasa kama urais uwaziri nk? Je kama ni masuala ya kiuchumi, kuna masharti gani yatamzuia asizoe mali zetu na kuzipeleka katika nchi ya pili? Je kutakuwepo na mikataba ya kubadilishana wahalifu kati ya nchi hizo na sisi, isije ikawa mtu anafanya makosa Tz halafu anakwenda kujificha kwenye nchi nyingine ambako hatuwezi kumpata? -Rejea suala la Vithlan!.
Hili ni suala zuri lakini sidhani kama tumelifanyia uchunguzi wa kutosha. Mtakumbuka ubinafsishaji ulivyopigiwa kelele kuwa ni mzuri, but in the end x-president Mkapa said "
Ex-president of Tanzania Benjamin Mkapa nicely summed up his experience and that of many other countries: "We privatized everything the state had. Everything was bought by foreign capital because we had no national capital to compete. The foreign companies almost always closed local businesses, which were not competitive, transforming them into distributors of foreign products and driving up unemployment. The experts of the World Bank and the IMF predicted that this would happen, but they told us: Now the influx of foreign investment will lead to the creation of new, competitive and technologically current businesses that will provide the foundations for a lasting, modern development. None of this happened for us."

Written by Roberto Savio / Inter Press Service
Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:16

Yasije yakatupata kama haya maana huenda tukawa hatuwezi tena kurudi kwenye uraia wa nchi moja.
Kwa maoni yangu - kwa kuwa suala linalopigiwa kelele ni la waTZ waliokwenda nje wakalazimika kuukana uraia wao, basi tuanze na hao tu, tuwaruhusu ku-regain uraia wao wa Tanzania. Kwa wale ambao si waTZ wa kuzaliwa , yaani ni raia wa say kenya kwa kuzaliwa na sasa wanataka kuongezea na uraia wa TZ, hao wasubiri kwanza.
Mnajua hata ubinafsishaji tungejipanga kwanza kama China au Japan au sasa wanavyofanya Cuba - yaani kubinafsisha kwa waTZ, tusingepata shida nyingi kwani bado mali zingekuwa za waTZ.
 
I wonder why everyone is noting celebratory comments about dual citizenship following the article which only expressed about "watanzania walioko nje ya nchi"...
Is that all about "Dual Citizenship"? Heck No !!!
The article didn't mention anything about the Foreigners who already are in Tanzania....what their plight is going to be,
and if these foreigners have gotten involved in "Ufisadi"...
and...some of these foreigners who already own or are in "unfair" trade agreements
with local Tanzanians...taking advantage of their poverty...thus giving them less that
what they deserve...
The article didn't take into consideration important matters such as Land ownership...
The article didn't mention what the impact is going to be to the Local Tanzanian...
and many more concerns...have been left out

So In Brief...Mh. Membe needs to go back and brainstorm with his cabinet... and prepare a
dual citizenship argument / document, which will have Strings attached which are aimed at
protecting the Interest of the Local Tanzanian thus benefiting the country as a whole and
in this case, the ones living abroad and the ones holding foreign passports but living at home....
taking great emphasis on watching the Foreigners who are connected to "Mafisadi" so as not
to end up selling our country.

My Take.:smile:
 

....Any updates? please?
2011 "mbali" kweli, 3 Weeks to go!
 
Let us go for the dual citizenship. If it doesn't work out well then it can always be revoked. Let us not fear change. To make progress let us try it because the Minister has stated the expected benefits which are believed will bring progress to the country. Being a poor country why shouldn't we try something that could be beneficial. Tubaki maskini tu kwa uoga??? No. Let us go for it. If it is wrong it can be removed just as it will be introduced.
 

:amen::amen::amen:
 
....Any updates? please? 2011 "mbali" kweli, 3 Weeks to go!

Hahahaha. Now its 2014, cheki kwenye rasimu ya katiba mpya. Siku zinakimbia eh?
 
Mwaka 2006 mwana forum kwa jina la SAIDI YAKUBU alisema hivi:



https://www.jamiiforums.com/jamii-intelligence/8462-dual-citizenship-progress-and-solutions.html

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WAKENYA WALIFANYA HIVI KWENYE KATIBA YAO MPYA:

 
Tanzania siasa zimezidi! mijadala yote imeishia kwenye hoja ya serikali mbili. Mambo mengine kama haya hawana habari nayo!
 

Nakubaliana na hili mkuu. Ni kweli kabisa.
 
Huu ni wivu kwa walio nje, watu hawataki kuachia uraia wa Tanzania sababu nyumbani ni nyumbani, kwani mtu akiwa na uraia wa nchi mbili akaleta hela nyumbani shida iko wapi? We nitajie hasara zake basi maana unapinga bila kuonyesha hasara
 
Anayepingana na dual citizenship ni either hajaenda nje, au ana wivu kwa walio nje, au alienda nje yakamshinda amerudi bongo.. Dual wengine tunaitaka si sababu ya kupata citizenship nje na kuisahau bongo, ni inverse kabisa, ni kupata ili iturahisishie maisha nje na production izidi zaidi ili turudishe vyote bongo, mwisho wa siku tutafia bongo tu.
 
Huu ni wivu kwa walio nje, watu hawataki kuachia uraia wa Tanzania sababu nyumbani ni nyumbani, kwani mtu akiwa na uraia wa nchi mbili akaleta hela nyumbani shida iko wapi? We nitajie hasara zake basi maana unapinga bila kuonyesha hasara

Napinga uraia wa nchi mbili kwanza chukua mfano wa balali kakwapua mabilioni ya hela na washirika wake nadhani unajua yaliyotoke katorokea nje ikatengenezwa muvi kafariki hata jeneza hatukuliona tumeona na madai sio raia wa nchi mbili kwa upeo mdogo tu mtu inajua ana uraia wa nchi mbili unampa ashike sehemu nyeti kama ile wizara ya fedha mwisho wa siku yanatukuta haya, tumeona ya alex massawe kashiriki vitendo viovu anakimbilia kwenye nchi nyingine aliyoomba uraia mwisho wa siku ndio hivyo kesi inaishia hewani mimi kwa nchi za afrika na jinsi viongozi walivyokuwa waroho na mafisadi wataihujumu nchi mwisho wa siku tunatafutana unaambiwa sio raia wa tanzania kwa kifupi kwa afrika baado sheria zetu hazitumiki na kusimamiwa vizuri kwa hawa watu wanaochukua uraia wa nchi mbili mwalimu nyerere angalikuwepo asingekubali hii kitu aliona mbali.
 
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