Wajamaa mnisaidie, hivi Nyerere aliwezaje kuvumilia haya?

BLATANT LIE--Personal point of reference, with assorted association of 'superficiality' of 'Events|Time|Institutional Choices|Society'.

You have to reorient your 'thinking'--using 'systems View and Thinking'...

'Firmly rooted in their past' is something in systems view and thinking associated with 'Memory'...

Ontological and Metaphysics of Society is what can 'shift your perspective comprehension of society'.

THAT MAN EXPLAINS THINGS WITH OVERSTANDING ROOTED IN SYSTEMS VIEW AND THINKING.

Having Systems View and Thinking is pragmatic orientation beyond 'opinion-ed thought'.

That is why one can see him expounding on 'the Power of Now'--Orientation of actionable choice making.

In this regard, it is easily to discern even 'what this thread is all about'--is there any coherence in thoughts, purpose and specific course of action for individuals 'pooling in'(?)

Thoughts and opinions are not 'intelligence'--they are in actual sense, incoherence; and so, possible incongruousness that wield their own self limiting reality pertinent to what is really going on...

SO there is no 'real power' to yield 'vector intention' to muster reality at hand--towards 'intelligible integral' ... It is being carried away with 'vanity of thoughts' and self aggrandizement.

Then again, thoughts reflect state of cohesion or discord within interacting individuals; with respect to this thread, it can be ascertained that 'there is no specific goal for group realization' towards 'Events and Times'...

It is ONLY through SYSTEMS VIEW AND THINKING, proper contexts of nations/societies in a making can be ascertained.

Nation of ISRAEL is 'State Phenomenon'; not 'general community consensus of constituent members of the nation-state'.

If individuals here may prove worthiness to 'know better', things can be articulated here in regard to Israel, state power and behind the scene PTB...

Outer 'History' is just a shade for 'justification' of 'social persistence'--'Real History' is usually improvised in masses -- compromised for the purpose of 'indoctrination' and 'propaganda'.

Matter of fact: Both 'China and Israel', as collectives, are stuck in past...

One may be 'dazzled' to see and believe, what he/she may--those typical nation-state are 'spiritually' regressing... Do not be deceived by 'military and/or intelligence' | 'Imperialism' to suppose 'formidable' human integrity...

They could be simply 'house of cards'...

Hmmm
 
Matter of fact: Both 'China and Israel', as collectives, are stuck in past...

They could be simply 'house of cards'...

Hmmm
An inference that China and Israel as collectives, are stuck in the past is crude sophism, and proves one's intellectual capacity to folly. It seems you have your own versions of history. House of cards? Maybe or maybe not! Nevertheless, demeaning two world's oldest civilizations is nothing but a dereliction of common sense and reason, allowing simplicities shape your understanding of history.

Okay, let's agree with your diction, China and Israel could simply be "house of cards". In philosophical terrains of both civilizational state and modern state, which nation-state isn't a house of cards?

The whole enchilada of human history is filled with polities which weren't immune to the vicissitudes of great power dynamics. And this reality is illuminated from the times of bloviating Consuls of ancient Rome to munificent Presidents of America. In your critical opprobrium in a palette of simplicity, revisionism and dereliction of facts, this is just a house of cards. Unfortunately, what you simply call a house of cards, the intellectual collective stuck in a past call it History.​
 
On a light note...

This conversation is not about 'proving this or that'...

I as a person is not interested in 'sophistry'--rather am here to reorient knowledge patterns and trigger systems thinking -- systems view and thinking as social imperative when it comes to auspicious 'social transformations'.

China and Israel being stuck in past is something related to 'ontology of institutions'.

When people have traceable social structure and/or order there is a way to ascertain 'collective psyche' attributing to their state of 'social persistence'--this does not stop with 'history'; there is metaphysical aspects to these state of matter/affairs.

'Zionist Mindset' and 'Chinese Model' are 'supported' by silent 'state machinery'--state machinery beyond pervasive knowledge and news, something bestowing in them a 'very resolute' state of affairs' and/or 'self determination' to 'unleash the dragon'...

If you know those 'metaphysical aspects' to 'ontology of institution' then you know how a certain house can stand, and how it is likely disintegrate with time.

Let it be known, these beget matters beyond ordinary understanding of societies -- societies in transition and/or making.

So there is metaphysical side to all 'institutions', states are 'institutions' -- institutions for lasting impact/significance; this way, pertaining to matters associated evenmore with 'state crafting' and hidden side of things.

Babylon system is a 'house of cards', if you can ascertain what is it really(?)--All 'states' at present, nation-states in the entire world, appease 'the Beast' to derive their 'Power' and keeping masses in 'conformity' to fragile socio-economic 'fabrics/systems'.

Real Education is going tear apart this 'vanity'; this is bound to happen--when people know better.

In the light of Education 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0, things will never be the same.

Having 'self awareness' with relevance to Education 2.0 and 3.0 is to do away with 'Babylon Confusion'.

Education 1.0 is 'Babylon by Bus', while Education 2.0 and 3.0 is 'Zion Train'--what are you going to choose when it comes to knowing things in full?

Failure to 'rise up into an occasion' is going to make one think he/she know while in actual she doesn't; babylon system wants these to be this way though...

Real power is in 'One's Consciousness' and not 'His-story'...

Pray you get to know the differences.



Hmmm
 
Okay you're right
 
Nyerere alichagua upande wa ujamaa wakati ule kwa kuwa aliamini kuwa ubepari ni unyama.
Ujamaa by nature una sifa ya udikteta na utukufu mwingi kwa watawala.
Nyerere ni wa kipindi kile cha mambo yale. Alirithisha hayo mambo kwa CCM na hayo yanatutesa hadi leo. Ccm ni kivuli chake, sifa yake kubwa ni madaka na utukufu. Ni kama laana tu maana hawaamini kama mtu aliye nje ya ccm anaweza kuongoza nchi. Yeye mwenyewe aliwaaminisha kuwa kiongozi mzuri atatoka ccm.
Inatakiwa nguvu kuu ya umma kubomoa hii laana.
Ila Nyerere huyohuyo angezaliwa kipindi hiki asingekuwa na hizo fikra.
 
An excellent observation.
 

Chuki binafsi dhidi ya Nyerere ndiyo ninayoiona hapa. Mleta mada ana kihoro na Nyerere (na pia masalia ya Nyerere): aidha ulishafanyiwa figisu na Nyerere katika madaraka yako au masalia ya Sasa ya Nyerere ndiyo yamekulalua haswa kiasi Cha kuanzisha Uzi kama personal attacks Kwa muhusika/wahusika.
 
Yote hayo alifanya akizingatia hofu kwamba

Vyama vya ushirika vilikuwa na pesa balaa ,serikali haina kabisa rejea nyasa cooperative union ,mwisho wasiku hawa wangezoea kushika pesa serikali za nyerere zingepinduliwa
 
Yaani niwe na kihoro na WAJAMAA ambao walishindwa kabisa kufanya mageuzi ya kiuchumi ndani ya miaka 20 ?​
 
Yote hayo alifanya akizingatia hofu kwamba

Vyama vya ushirika vilikuwa na pesa balaa ,serikali haina kabisa rejea nyasa cooperative union ,mwisho wasiku hawa wangezoea kushika pesa serikali za nyerere zingepinduliwa
Hebu tueleze sasa matokeo ya kuvifilisi na kuviua vyama vya ushirika yalikuwaje ?​
 
Mzee mhuni sana alikuwa anamiliki TV peke yake[emoji23]
Daah, watanzania hadi kufika mwaka 1995 tulikuwa tunaona TV ni kitu cha ajabu, na wengine wanaenda hadi kwa jirani kuomba kuangalia zile kanda za VHS. Halafu unaanza kujiuliza kwanini watanzania wengi akili zao zipo chini ya kiwango na hawana mtazamo mpana wa dunia. Kiukweli, watanzania hatukufanyiwa vizuri.​
 
Yaani niwe na kihoro na WAJAMAA ambao walishindwa kabisa kufanya mageuzi ya kiuchumi ndani ya miaka 20 ?​
Uzuri wanaotaka kumtunuku UTAKATIFU ni wasomi zaidi yako, wanayajua mengi (ya Nyerere) zaidi yako; aidha Kwa maslahi yao au maslahi ya wengi (ukiwemo wewe). Deal likitimia nafikiri utaendelea na huzuni zako mpaka uugue shinikizo la damu.

Navyosema una chuki binafsi ni Kwa sababu kinacho umiza hisia zako ni kipengele Cha Mwalimu kuitwa "MTAKATIFU". Ok! Sawa, Mwalimu hastahili kuitwa " MTAKATIFU"; je, ni Rais gani tuliyekuwa naye (au ambaye tunaye) ambaye alikuwa na huruma, au ana huruma, na upendo wa agape Kwa wananchi wake? Mbona kila Rais ana makando kando yake? Nieleweshe ewe msomi .
Katiba inasema Tanzania ni ya kijamaa (hiyo ni misingi ya Mwalimu Nyerere), lakini ngoma tunayochezeshwa ni ya kibepari (ina maana ngoma ya Mwalimu Nyerere imewekwa kando); changamoto za kiuchumi Kwa wananchi zimekwishwa? Taifa Sasa lipo pazuri? (Sababu tunachezeshwa ngoma ya mabeberu)......
Nifafanulie ewe msomi.....
 
Halafu wanataka awe mtakatifu wao
 
Kwa ufupi Nyerere alikuwa binadamu mmoja mwenye roho mbaya kupita maelezo.
 
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