When America Almost Invaded Uganda to Defend Kenya

[vulcan]

Soma vizuri hiyo sehemu ya kiingereza!!
Nyie wakenya si mnajisifu kwa kiingereza kwani unakwama wapi kizembe hivyo?
Kwani haujui hizo MiG-21 jets na a Tu-22 Blinder supersonic bomber alizopewa na Libya ni ndege?

😀 😀 , the fact is that Uganda was at a very weak point in 1978,

 

[Titicomb]

😀 😀 , the fact is that Uganda was at a very weak point in 1978,

Sawa mkuu.

 

[Titicomb]

Congo hata vita vyake ni mchezo ukilinganisha na Somali ndugu..

Lete sababu usiweke hisia zako pekee.

 

[vulcan]

Lete sababu usiweke hisia zako pekee.

Congo ni rebels ambao wanapigania resources, Somali ni terrorists ambao wanapigania dini..kwao hawaogopi kifo...
DRC rebels kifo ni gharama, wanataka waishi ili wanufaike na vita vyao..

Congo rebels are not well armed or financed...Alshabab gets overseas funding, and are heavily armed with secret supporters all over the world..

DRC rebels hawana ideology yeyote, Alshabab ni Mujahideens

DRC rebels number estimate - hawawezi kufika 4000
Al-Shabaab number estimate - 7000 to 9000

 

[Bugucha]

Congo ni rebels ambao wanapigania resources, Somali ni terrorists ambao wanapigania dini..kwao hawaogopi kifo...
DRC rebels kifo ni gharama, wanataka waishi ili wanufaike na vita vyao..

Congo rebels are not well armed or financed...Alshabab gets overseas funding, and are heavily armed with secret supporters all over the world..

DRC rebels hawana ideology yeyote, Alshabab ni Mujahideens

DRC rebels number estimate - hawawezi kufika 4000
Al-Shabaab number estimate - 7000 to 9000

Pumba tupu,vita ni vita bila kujali motive behind it,kama ni hivyo,ISIS leo wangekuwa wako Baghdad. Nyinyi hamna uwezo wa kupigana na ndio maana mmeshindwa kuangamiza Al-shabab.kama vita ni vifaa tu,mngekuwa mmemaliza hao jamaa.Katika article yako, imesema wakati Uganda inaitishia Kenya,walikuwa strong kuliko nyinyi, but within a short time,mlikuwa mmejijenga ,hivyo hivyo, usifikiri Tanzania itakuwa hivyo mpaka vita vinatokea,ukumbuke,Tanzania ndio nchi pekee Southern Sahara yenye uwanja mkubwa wa ndege za kijeshi, acha kujidanganya.

 

[Kevin85ify]

So this is the proof that Kenya has been the puppet of USA in Africa for so long...
Working with USA against OAU and the rest of Africa..for years..

Moi was sent to OAU by USA to stop OAU from forming the OAU peace keepers and succeeded..

USA fearing OAU will succeed in uniting Africa .
Used Kenya and other puppets nations to stop any moves that will help Africa to unite and solves their own conflicts..

Kenyatta was a puppet so was Moi..
That is the reason why Kissinger made sure Kenya was protected by any means..

Village thoughts. Where is your evidence? Kenya has been a long time ally of America, Britain,Israel and ethiopia. We also have defense agreements with a of them.
Kenya follows what is good for kenya not what is good for Africa! We pursue our own national interest first ie Kenyan interests override any African interests

 

[Kevin85ify]

Congo ni rebels ambao wanapigania resources, Somali ni terrorists ambao wanapigania dini..kwao hawaogopi kifo...
DRC rebels kifo ni gharama, wanataka waishi ili wanufaike na vita vyao..

Congo rebels are not well armed or financed...Alshabab gets overseas funding, and are heavily armed with secret supporters all over the world..

DRC rebels hawana ideology yeyote, Alshabab ni Mujahideens

DRC rebels number estimate - hawawezi kufika 4000
Al-Shabaab number estimate - 7000 to 9000

Also Al-shabaab is well funded and receives fighters from Al qaeda and Daesh. This is not the rag tag militia they are used to. KDF is actually doing a very good job.

KDF has liberated southern somalia and put in a stable state government there. KDF intervention is the reason offensive capabilities of al-shabaab have been reduced to the point they only rely now on suicide attacks.

Amisom was in somalia before kenya got into somalia, but they were not able to go outside mogadishu. KDF came in took southern somalia and liberated kismayu in about 10 months.

Fighting terrorists is not like fighting rebels. Russia has been in syria for over 2 years and still they are fighting everyday. Israel has been fighting Hamas for over 10 years, while egypt has been fighting Hamas and Isil (Daesh) in the sinai for over 4 years now.

They do not understand asymmetrical warfare that is why they talk the way they do, unlike conventional war, this is a war fought with intelligence or else you will kill more civilians than terrorists since they will be embedded in the general population.

 

[Kevin85ify]

Congo ni rebels ambao wanapigania resources, Somali ni terrorists ambao wanapigania dini..kwao hawaogopi kifo...
DRC rebels kifo ni gharama, wanataka waishi ili wanufaike na vita vyao..

Congo rebels are not well armed or financed...Alshabab gets overseas funding, and are heavily armed with secret supporters all over the world..

DRC rebels hawana ideology yeyote, Alshabab ni Mujahideens

DRC rebels number estimate - hawawezi kufika 4000
Al-Shabaab number estimate - 7000 to 9000

In the fight between Tanzania and Uganda that they talk a lot about. It was ugandan rebels(UNLF, Uganda National Liberation Front), Mozambique army and ethiopian soldiers who did the hard work of pushing Ugandan army out of Tanzania and pushing the Ugandan army way back to entebbe .

The Ugandan Army had occupied Parts of tanzania for over 4 months.
When Uganda attacked their soldiers ran away and deserted the Kagera region resulting in a mass slaughter of Tanzanian citizens in the area by ugandan forces. Nyerere was too weak too respond and he did not have friends on the Kenyan side or the malawi side.

"On 30 October approximately 3,000 Ugandan troops invaded Tanzania along four routes through Kukunga, Masanya, Mutukula, and Minziro.Commanded by Uganda Army Chief of Staff Yusuf Gowon and equipped with tanks and APCs, they only faced ineffectual rifle fire from several dozen members of the Tanzania People's Militia. Despite the minimal resistance from Tanzanian forces, Ugandan troops advanced with caution. They slowly occupied the Kagera Salient, shooting at soldiers and civilians alike, before reaching the Kagera River and the Kyaka Bridge in the evening.
Though the land between the river and Bukoba was left virtually undefended by the TPDF's withdrawal, the Uganda Army halted its advance at the north end of the bridge. The Kagera Salient thus occupied, undisciplined Ugandan soldiers started to loot in the area.Approximately 1,500 civilians were shot and killed, while an additional 5,000 went into hiding in the bush."

Yoweri kaguta museveni, Tito Okello, David oyite Ojok who were rebel leaders in UNLF, spoke with ethiopians for support and negotiated with kenya to allow ethiopian forces to pass through Kenya to go and help the now demoralized and beaten down TPDF. Kenya agreed since we also had an axe to grind with Idi Amin

Six African leaders condemned the Kagera invasion as Ugandan aggression: Mengistu Haile Mariam of Ethiopia, Didier Ratsiraka of Madagascar, Agostinho Neto of Angola, Seretse Khama of Botswana, Samora Machel of Mozambique, and Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia.

 

[vulcan]

In the fight between Tanzania and Uganda that they talk a lot about. It was ugandan rebels(UNLF, Uganda National Liberation Front), Mozambique army and ethiopian soldiers who did the hard work of pushing Ugandan army out of Tanzania and pushing the Ugandan army way back to entebbe .

The Ugandan Army had occupied Parts of tanzania for over 4 months.
When Uganda attacked their soldiers ran away and deserted the Kagera region resulting in a mass slaughter of Tanzanian citizens in the area by ugandan forces. Nyerere was too weak too respond and he did not have friends on the Kenyan side or the malawi side.

"On 30 October approximately 3,000 Ugandan troops invaded Tanzania along four routes through Kukunga, Masanya, Mutukula, and Minziro.Commanded by Uganda Army Chief of Staff Yusuf Gowon and equipped with tanks and APCs, they only faced ineffectual rifle fire from several dozen members of the Tanzania People's Militia. Despite the minimal resistance from Tanzanian forces, Ugandan troops advanced with caution. They slowly occupied the Kagera Salient, shooting at soldiers and civilians alike, before reaching the Kagera River and the Kyaka Bridge in the evening.
Though the land between the river and Bukoba was left virtually undefended by the TPDF's withdrawal, the Uganda Army halted its advance at the north end of the bridge. The Kagera Salient thus occupied, undisciplined Ugandan soldiers started to loot in the area.Approximately 1,500 civilians were shot and killed, while an additional 5,000 went into hiding in the bush."

Yoweri kaguta museveni, Tito Okello, David oyite Ojok who were rebel leaders in UNLF, spoke with ethiopians for support and negotiated with kenya to allow ethiopian forces to pass through Kenya to go and help the now demoralized and beaten down TPDF. Kenya agreed since we also had an axe to grind with Idi Amin

Six African leaders condemned the Kagera invasion as Ugandan aggression: Mengistu Haile Mariam of Ethiopia, Didier Ratsiraka of Madagascar, Agostinho Neto of Angola, Seretse Khama of Botswana, Samora Machel of Mozambique, and Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia.

Thanks for the highlight... hii vita huwa wanajisifu nayo ilikuwa a coalition hawaskii..

 

[vulcan]

Also Al-shabaab is well funded and receives fighters from Al qaeda and Daesh. This is not the rag tag militia they are used to. KDF is actually doing a very good job.

KDF has liberated southern somalia and put in a stable state government there. KDF intervention is the reason offensive capabilities of al-shabaab have been reduced to the point they only rely now on suicide attacks.

Amisom was in somalia before kenya got into somalia, but they were not able to go outside mogadishu. KDF came in took southern somalia and liberated kismayu in about 10 months.

Fighting terrorists is not like fighting rebels. Russia has been in syria for over 2 years and still they are fighting everyday. Israel has been fighting Hamas for over 10 years, while egypt has been fighting Hamas and Isil (Daesh) in the sinai for over 4 years now.

They do not understand asymmetrical warfare that is why they talk the way they do, unlike conventional war, this is a war fought with intelligence or else you will kill more civilians than terrorists since they will be embedded in the general population.

Very true.
You know the idea of TPDF victory is declaring an operation today, running around the place and declaring victory kesho.
Asymmetrical warfare is a different game all together.
TPDF has never fought an insurgency anywhere

 

[UCD]

Your army as of 2020 is the weakest in East Africa...bado mko enzi za Nyerere kaka

Mtuchokoze muone? Alshabab tu wanawaendesha ile mbaya! Sisi walijaribu Kibiti wakakipata cha moto! Vile vile mwende mkawaulize M23 watawajulisha cha moto walichokipata!!

 

[UCD]

In the fight between Tanzania and Uganda that they talk a lot about. It was ugandan rebels(UNLF, Uganda National Liberation Front), Mozambique army and ethiopian soldiers who did the hard work of pushing Ugandan army out of Tanzania and pushing the Ugandan army way back to entebbe .

The Ugandan Army had occupied Parts of tanzania for over 4 months.
When Uganda attacked their soldiers ran away and deserted the Kagera region resulting in a mass slaughter of Tanzanian citizens in the area by ugandan forces. Nyerere was too weak too respond and he did not have friends on the Kenyan side or the malawi side.

"On 30 October approximately 3,000 Ugandan troops invaded Tanzania along four routes through Kukunga, Masanya, Mutukula, and Minziro.Commanded by Uganda Army Chief of Staff Yusuf Gowon and equipped with tanks and APCs, they only faced ineffectual rifle fire from several dozen members of the Tanzania People's Militia. Despite the minimal resistance from Tanzanian forces, Ugandan troops advanced with caution. They slowly occupied the Kagera Salient, shooting at soldiers and civilians alike, before reaching the Kagera River and the Kyaka Bridge in the evening.
Though the land between the river and Bukoba was left virtually undefended by the TPDF's withdrawal, the Uganda Army halted its advance at the north end of the bridge. The Kagera Salient thus occupied, undisciplined Ugandan soldiers started to loot in the area.Approximately 1,500 civilians were shot and killed, while an additional 5,000 went into hiding in the bush."

Yoweri kaguta museveni, Tito Okello, David oyite Ojok who were rebel leaders in UNLF, spoke with ethiopians for support and negotiated with kenya to allow ethiopian forces to pass through Kenya to go and help the now demoralized and beaten down TPDF. Kenya agreed since we also had an axe to grind with Idi Amin

Six African leaders condemned the Kagera invasion as Ugandan aggression: Mengistu Haile Mariam of Ethiopia, Didier Ratsiraka of Madagascar, Agostinho Neto of Angola, Seretse Khama of Botswana, Samora Machel of Mozambique, and Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia.

Go and ask M23! By the way its your intel which makes you to conquer your enemy not blabla as you kunya country always do!!

 

[vulcan]

Pumba tupu,vita ni vita bila kujali motive behind it,kama ni hivyo,ISIS leo wangekuwa wako Baghdad. Nyinyi hamna uwezo wa kupigana na ndio maana mmeshindwa kuangamiza Al-shabab.kama vita ni vifaa tu,mngekuwa mmemaliza hao jamaa.Katika article yako, imesema wakati Uganda inaitishia Kenya,walikuwa strong kuliko nyinyi, but within a short time,mlikuwa mmejijenga ,hivyo hivyo, usifikiri Tanzania itakuwa hivyo mpaka vita vinatokea,ukumbuke,Tanzania ndio nchi pekee Southern Sahara yenye uwanja mkubwa wa ndege za kijeshi, acha kujidanganya.

😀 😀 wacha tu nicheke peke yangu

 

[UCD]

Thanks for the highlight... hii vita huwa wanajisifu nayo ilikuwa a coalition hawaskii..

Coalition gani unadanganya na huyo nyang'au vita ilipiganwa na watz wakisaidiana na wapinzani wa Uganda katika kukusanya intel information lakini watz ndiyo walikuwa mstari wa mbele kung'oa IDD Amin sasa nyinyi jaribuni tuwamalize kwa haraka tu.

 

[UCD]

😀 😀 wacha tu nicheke peke yangu

Kweli wewe ni wakucheka tu!

 

[Kevin85ify]

Coalition gani unadanganya na huyo nyang'au vita ilipiganwa na watz wakisaidiana na wapinzani wa Uganda katika kukusanya intel information lakini watz ndiyo walikuwa mstari wa mbele kung'oa IDD Amin sasa nyinyi jaribuni tuwamalize kwa haraka tu.

Read your history! You do not even know your own history. sad.

 

[Kevin85ify]

Thanks for the highlight... hii vita huwa wanajisifu nayo ilikuwa a coalition hawaskii..

They had a bigger coalition than Idi Amin. Idi Amin had Libya and the Palestinian Liberation Organization, Tanzania was helped by Uganda Rebels (UNLF) who did the hardest job of demoralizing the Ugandan Army with sporadic attacks, secured a lot of defections to their side from the Ugandan Army and starved the government off of resources needed to put up a formidable resistance. They also got military and financial help in strategy and actual boots on the ground from ethiopia, algeria, mozambique,Zambia and Angola.
Without this help Tanzania would not have been able to attack Uganda since they would have run broke in a matter of weeks, and Uganda actually dominated their sky. They got into and out of Tanzania at will.

 

[vulcan]

Coalition gani unadanganya na huyo nyang'au vita ilipiganwa na watz wakisaidiana na wapinzani wa Uganda katika kukusanya intel information lakini watz ndiyo walikuwa mstari wa mbele kung'oa IDD Amin sasa nyinyi jaribuni tuwamalize kwa haraka tu.

 

[Chakochangu]

Ugomvi wa Uganda (yaAmin ) na Kenya haukuwa juu hii ramani kweli?

 

[Dp800]

Village thoughts. Where is your evidence? Kenya has been a long time ally of America, Britain,Israel and ethiopia. We also have defense agreements with a of them.
Kenya follows what is good for kenya not what is good for Africa! We pursue our own national interest first ie Kenyan interests override any African interests

Umeandika point muhimu na kubwa sana. Hakika hiyo ndio tofauti kuu kati ya Watanzania na wakenya. Maana pamoja na mambo mengi Tanzania tunajivunia kuwajali wafrica wengine na hip ndio asili yetu, hata magufuli wakati anazuia kufunga mipaka sababu hii ya uafrica ilikua miongoni