When Kenya runs away from UN resolution, it’s time to assess the quality of our leadership

[Ntolonyonyo]

Hypoctric Country...
Kenya mmeonyesha jinsi mnavyoweza kuuza utu wenu kwa mali.....better you could vote against the resolution kuliko kuabstain kabisa...poor kenyans

 

[joto la jiwe]

kiume pesa kudinda ugonjwa maisha mafupi [emoji4]

Kenya ni nchi ya hovyo sana, sasa tangu muanze kuwaogopa na kuwalamba miguu wazungu, nini mlichokipata, mbona mkipata njaa wanaowasaidia ni wachina, mikopo yote mnakimbilia China ambayo ni nchi ya kijamaa zamani mlikuwa hamtaki hata kushirikiana nao kwa kuwaogopa wazungu?

 

[bukoba boy]

Si mzee pua pana netanyahu alikuwapo hapo juzi mkaona aibu kumchinjia baharini

 

[mgen]

Kenya ni nchi ya hovyo sana, sasa tangu muanze kuwaogopa na kuwalamba miguu wazungu, nini mlichokipata, mbona mkipata njaa wanaowasaidia ni wachina, mikopo yote mnakimbilia China ambayo ni nchi ya kijamaa zamani mlikuwa hamtaki hata kushirikiana nao kwa kuwaogopa wazungu?

msaada ni msaada Allah anaweza kumtumia shetani akumwagie msaada! maisha maisha mafupi bro[emoji4]

 

[Mwanzi1]

If USA asks Kenyans to let their wives to have sex with US citizens once per month, no single Kenyan can resist. Remember when US threatened EAC against the law passed by EAC leaders which stipulated that ""importation of used clothes shall be prohibited into member states in order to protect our clothes industry,"" Kenya without consulting other member states decided to surrender and go against decision which Uhuru Kenyatta signed along side with other east Africa leaders. Kenya is very weak country in front of wazungu specifically USA

Yani hii hawachomoki, EPA, second hand cloth, now this ...duh

 

[joto la jiwe]

The negotiations is between Israel and palestine... If you read the resolution in totality, it didn't mention any names but it was targeted at the US and as such we would have abstained because such kind of resolutions are always subject to manipulations ,

It could have just been turkeys payback to the US for this
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Hapa unafurahi kwa sababu UN is against Turkey, juzi UN imekua against USA unaanza kuja na sababu kibao za kuipinga UN ili tu kuipa support USA hata kama dunia nzima is against USA

 

[Kafrican]

Kafrican can, very poor reasoning, hivi ndio hao top diplomats wenu walisama kule UN?. You should read a statement from Botswana just for your interest sake...

Hata kuna ule wakati USA ilitaka support ya UN member countries to pass a resolution on Iraq on WMD's, Kenya also abstained on that one , this has always been our foreign policy. There are only two instances in Kenya's 50 years of history at the UN where we voted for or against such type of resolution.

If you really think you have power, ask yourself, why hasn't the UN ever sanctioned Israel for the multiple violations that Israel unilaterally commits on Palestine? If you have real balls then we should do that instead of passing cowardly resolution , this vote that happened recently killed any dignity that the UN had left,

 

[Asakila]

Kenyans, abstaining, actually running away from being seen voting to denounce the decision of Trump administration to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and hence shifting its embassy to the city was a cowardly decision. To me this tests the competence and quality of our leadership. We are human beings, we know what was happening inside the grey jerry of these individuals.

Our neighbours voted enthusiastically, reading loudly their decisions, confidently. In east Africa Kenya brags to have good economy and influence to steering the community towards where it is required to be. However, with this type of leadership, this type of decisions, there is no way Kenya will be a respected state. A country where the leadership struggles to impress the US regardless of the quality of prescription handled to them. Leaders who couldn’t recognize the humiliating prescription or who tolerated the humiliation for no tangible reason!

What benefits are we getting from this relation with the US? Getting VISA to the US? Is the benefits that much heavier to sacrificing the country’s integrity and respect? NO! NO!

Not about the US u idiot it is about full compliance to the word of God as amply demonstrated in the books of Numbers, Deuteronomy, Judges just to name a few.

Eyes you have but blindness overshadows you.... ears you have but deafness is your everlasting curse!

 

[Kafrican]

Hii ni spin ya kutufungia mwaka, ati what? Useless? Unafanya UN ya 2017 ni kama ya 1945. Katika ulimwengu wa instant messaging, emails,cellphones unesema ofisi ilifungwa? Let me ask you this, if trade union decided to hold a demo in Nairobi to initiate the gov to change one of its policy. Are they marching with assurance the gov will reverse its decision? Huu ulikuwa wakati wenu wa to make a statement that you value your friendship with US, but you can't support what you don't believe in. Kama mlikataa ushoga, why not this one. If it was useless why Britain, and German (most US allied country) voted against?

Emotions are clouding your judgements... Diplomacy is not about emotions of the day, most countries that voted, did so out of spite just because they wanted to show their citizens that they were not scared....
If Kenya had gone against its foreign policy and voted something unusual then you would have a case, show me any point in time where Kenya voted for US of UK in such kind of resolution? We have always abstained in every situation with the exception of two situations so I don't see why people are surprised at a foreign policy that we have practised since independence

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hata kuna ule wakati USA ilitaka support ya UN member countries to pass a resolution on Iraq on WMD's, Kenya also abstained on that one , this has always been our foreign policy. There are only two instances in Kenya's 50 years of history at the UN where we voted for or against such type of resolution.

If you really think you have power, ask yourself, why hasn't the UN ever sanctioned Israel for the multiple violations that Israel unilaterally commits on Palestine? If you have real balls then we should do that instead of passing cowardly resolution , this vote that happened recently killed any dignity that the UN had left,

Hakuna kuzungumzia power au kutokuwa na power, UN haina jeshi na wala sio lengo la UN kupiganisha vita yoyote, lengo ni kuonyesha mshikamano na kulaani jambo fulani kwa pamoja, nchi zote duniani kwa pamoja bila kujali tofauti zao za kiitikadi na kisiasa ziliungana pamoja, ni mara chache sana UK kuwa against USA, lakini safari hii UK imeipinga USA. Hive dunia nzima ikiwame UK, China, France, Germany, Tanzania, Urusi, Japan, na zingine nyingi hazina akili kukataa jambo lile, Kenya tu ndiyo yenye akili?

 

[Kafrican]

Si mzee pua pana netanyahu alikuwapo hapo juzi mkaona aibu kumchinjia baharini

Kuna standing orders kwamba the only time Kenya participates in a vote ambayo inahusu nchi mbili ni wakati wa vote ya kuhusu palestine, and last time ilifanyika tulimpigia kura tukiunga mkono palestine despite the fact that tuko na urafiki mkubwa na israel

Kazi ya udiplomasia hatujauanza leo, hata rais mpya aingie leo hapa Kenya, foreign policy yetu utabaki hivyo hivyo kwasababu ilitungwa na career diplomats na wala si emotions za president of the day

 

[Kobello]

Our foreign policy has always been that two countries at war should solve there problems through negotiation between themselves, that's why Kenya has never voted for or against any resolution at the UN which pitted two countries against each other.
Anyway, like I said, if Kenya's office was opened, we would have abstained, not because of the US threats of a dying horse but because of our relations with Israel.
In the history of Kenya at the UN, kenya has always abstained in any vote that was specific to a country, with only two exceptions in history and one of them was on Palestine and this has always been the exception but this particular vote was specific to the US/Israel and thus the embassy wouldn't even have called the president, they would have abstained, this is because Kenya has the belief that this kind of votes are always bieng manipulated by the big countries, and the rest of us small countries are just pons so Kenya chose not to play the game.


For eg. Turkey has been wanting to become the leader of the Arab world, and as such and spearheading this pointless campaign certainly puts them at a nice geopolitical position to cement their position as the leader of middle east so to a point, it wasn't about palestine, they just wanted to use that situation to score some geopolitical points and small countries foolishly join the campaign thinking they are fighting for what's right when we just serve the masters of manipulation

Hehe!
Just shut up.

 

[Bowie]

Hawa wamarekani walimsaidia Rais Uhuru Kenyatta kwenye uchaguzi uliopita regardless haikuwa ya haki kwasababu ya wizi wa kura kwahiyo serikali ya Kenya lazima iunge mkono serikali ya Marekani kwa suala lolote.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hehe!
Just shut up.

This guy must be mentally distorted, I am not sure if he really means what he writes, may be is under influence of miraa.

 

[eliakeem]

Kafrican can, very poor reasoning, hivi ndio hao top diplomats wenu walisama kule UN?. You should read a statement from Botswana just for your interest sake...

brother usilinganishe Botswana na vitu vya hovyo kama Kenya. Botswana is at another level. wako juu lkn kimyaa. hawana utamaduni wa domo kaya. mambo yao ni kimya kimya lkn ya uhakika.

 

[Waterloo]

ndimi mbili

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hawa wamarekani walimsaidia Rais Uhuru Kenyatta kwenye uchaguzi uliopita regardless haikuwa ya haki kwasababu ya wizi wa kura kwahiyo serikali ya Kenya lazima iunge mkono serikali ya Marekani kwa suala lolote.

Hawana cha kusaidiwa wala kitu gani, Kenya kwa USA ni kama slave master na slave wake, anachotaka Marekani Kenya lazima ifuate bila kuuliza lolote lile

 

[Mwanzi1]

Emotions are clouding your judgements... Diplomacy is not about emotions of the day, most countries that voted, did so out of spite just because they wanted to show their citizens that they were not scared....
If Kenya had gone against its foreign policy and voted something unusual then you would have a case, show me any point in time where Kenya voted for US of UK in such kind of resolution? We have always abstained in every situation with the exception of two situations so I don't see why people are surprised at a foreign policy that we have practised since independence

Abstaining is as equal as voting against the majority. I can't believe you're saying, countries which vote against US, they did so out of spite just because they wanted to show their citizens they were not scared. Are saying all 128 countries are ignorant of Palestinian suffering? Has Kenya really raise her consent with Israel about the occupation of Palestinian land?. How will Kenya feel if Ethiopia or Tanzania (not uganda for obvious reasons) decided to carve part of Kenya and push Kenyans into refugees camps?

In Tanzania we've long history for standing tall to oppressor's. From Britain with South Africa to Morocco with Sahrawi all the way to sidelining Chinese, and occupation of Palestinian land.

 

[Chamoto]

Our foreign policy has always been that two co

Foreign policy ass.

 

[Kobello]

This guy must be mentally distorted, I am not sure if he really means what he writes, may be is under influence of miraa.

Tribal societies have the tendency of producing such people. They are all over East Africa.
That's why East Africa abstained and SADC supported. It's about making a statement that humankind is best served as humankind, and not otherwise.
Tribes, religions and races produce classes which produce conflict.
Kenya, Rwanda, South Sudan, Congo and - to a relatively less degree - Uganda, are societies that will always be haunted and ultimately fail to thrive. There are too many "tribal" and primitive minds in them.
Tanzania is very unlucky to be bordered by these heathens. They will never go anywhere with that mind, and what is so sad is, they think they are superior. Which brings us to the aforementioned reasons.
It's a freaking vicious cycle and somehow we are stuck with them.