Which SGR project is economically viable between Tanzania [emoji1241] SGR and Kenyan [emoji1139]

Which SGR project is economically viable between Tanzania [emoji1241] SGR and Kenyan [emoji1139]

Which SGR project is economic viable between Tanzania 🇹🇿 SGR and Kenyan 🇰🇪

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Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
Tanzania is learning from the mistakes of kenya and has already avoided pitfalls like Lousy financing, Technology transfer mistakes etc. Should they continue diligently to learn from kenyan mistakes, Tz SGR will win all business in EAC
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Ahaaa haaa haaa
It's our warning example.
 
kirk git said:
We have only seen a few pages leaked by ndii.

And then chinese have forced kenyan slaves to sign confidential agreement not to release any information on sgr 🙂
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mbona mnaleta story nyingi, Nionyesheni ripoti ya Tz the so called 'transparent' project... atleast onyesheni the ESIA report!
 
Kafrican said:
mbona mnaleta story nyingi, Nionyesheni ripoti ya Tz the so called 'transparent' project... atleast onyesheni the ESIA report!
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Dar es Salaam-Isaka-Kigali/Keza-Musongati Railway Project – Bringing life to the rail sector in East Africa You will find all the info on Economic suitability and etc for Tz SGR somethings have changed since 2016 which is I guess the last time that was updated, when I get time I findout the latest doc from my GoT sources.but basically its similar. Note this analysis was not done by yapi markez like in the case of kenya, it was done by a consortium of GoT economists and WB personnel.
Would you expect the contractor CRBC to say the project is unviable and loose the contract and ExiM bank to loose a $4bn lending opportunity?
 
thisdayes said:
Unakomaa mpaka mishipa inakutoka! Lete ya Kenya kwanza ambayo ina pages 300

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Wenyewe mumejiingiza kwenye huu mtego na kunasa, siku zote nilikua natamani tujadili kitaalamu, tulinganishe kwa kutumia data za kweli sio mipasho yenu mliyozoea kule Facebook. Kila nikianzisha mada ya kihivi mnaikojolea, sasa mumeanzisha wenyewe, hivyo leteni data zenu tujadili kwa kulinganisha kila kitu tena kwa utaalam.
Uzi umekwenda kurasa tatu bado hamjaleta chochote wazembe tu.
 
Kafrican said:
this prooves how much you dont know about Kenyas SGR yet you here everyday talking about it..when you have never read the most important document that explains everything about the document. .. Na ya tz pia haujui ... Non of you are qualified to even speak on this thread
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KAMA prospectus of the first EuroBond is no where to be seen. What do you think about the viability and feasibility study documents of the SGR? Can you get it with all exaggerated financial model (revenue projection)?
 
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Thread derailed by the very people who started it. Hawa huwa robots wa CCM hadi Ndii na eurobond imerushwa kwa mada sababu ikiwa kukosa hoja...I love Tanzanians, they are the easiest to intimidate and beat up kama Burukenge.
 
mwaswast said:
Thread derailed by the very people who started it. Hawa huwa robots wa CCM hadi Ndii na eurobond imerushwa kwa mada sababu ikiwa kukosa hoja...I love Tanzanians, they are the easiest to intimidate and beat up kama Burukenge.
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SASA wewe umemleta Ndii na CCM. Huko ni kukosa hoja. Go back to the subject matter at hand.
 
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
Dar es Salaam-Isaka-Kigali/Keza-Musongati Railway Project – Bringing life to the rail sector in East Africa You will find all the info on Economic suitability and etc for Tz SGR somethings have changed since 2016 which is I guess the last time that was updated, when I get time I findout the latest doc from my GoT sources.but basically its similar. Note this analysis was not done by yapi markez like in the case of kenya, it was done by a consortium of GoT economists and WB personnel.
Would you expect the contractor CRBC to say the project is unviable and loose the contract and ExiM bank to loose a $4bn lending opportunity?
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That site is just a FAQ ... but atleast its a start, I'll go through it in detail later...

About the feasibility study... I, m not asking for it to see if the projects are economically viable... It doesnt even have to be a feasibility study document... an Environmental and social impact assessment would be sufficient...
I just need a document that explains the project in details, like why bridges will be built here or there, why electric power was chosen, where will ICDs be located if they are justified, whats the capacity of train station throughput, ..... For Kenyas example... most public projects wont have a feasibility study report found online but every public project must submit an ESIA report to NEMA to be approved... in that report will contain every detail about the project from the scale of the project even how much sand will be u§ed
 
Kafrican said:
That site is just a FAQ ... but atleast its a start, I'll go through it in detail later...

About the feasibility study... I, m not asking for it to see if the projects are economically viable... It doesnt even have to be a feasibility study document... an Environmental and social impact assessment would be sufficient...
I just need a document that explains the project in details, like why bridges will be built here or there, why electric power was chosen, where will ICDs be located if they are justified, whats the capacity of train station throughput, ..... For Kenyas example... most public projects wont have a feasibility study report found online but every public project must submit an ESIA report to NEMA to be approved... in that report will contain every detail about the project from the scale of the project even how much sand will be u§ed
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What you are asking for If I understand you right is a technical project Design document. That is the property of Yapi Merkez. -When and where bridges,ICDs will be built, environmental measures etc.You cannot get that anywhere its copyrighted
 
Kafrican said:
That site is just a FAQ ... but atleast its a start, I'll go through it in detail later...

About the feasibility study... I, m not asking for it to see if the projects are economically viable... It doesnt even have to be a feasibility study document... an Environmental and social impact assessment would be sufficient...
I just need a document that explains the project in details, like why bridges will be built here or there, why electric power was chosen, where will ICDs be located if they are justified, whats the capacity of train station throughput, ..... For Kenyas example... most public projects wont have a feasibility study report found online but every public project must submit an ESIA report to NEMA to be approved... in that report will contain every detail about the project from the scale of the project even how much sand will be u§ed
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What you are asking for If I understand you right is a technical project Design document. That is the property of Yapi Merkez. -When and where bridges,ICDs will be built, environmental measures etc.You cannot get that anywhere its copyrighted
 
Kafrican said:
under the right to information....Yes.. you can even go to court to force the government to publish it ...maybe your laws dont work that way... There is no justification for govt to hold details of such a public peoject...
Even if they cant release the document, there is usually two feasibility study document, one is more technical and anotherone is created for public which is usually summarized to be understood by laymans...
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Don't be stupid. The Tanzania SGR is the design and build project. Hope you understand what that means
 
mulisaaa said:
Don't be stupid. The Tanzania SGR is the design and build project. Hope you understand what that means
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Haya basi naona umeingia na pupa si utupe evidence, umeona wenzako walitoroka kimya kimya...hawana hoja.
 
Ni wazi kuwa sgr ya Kenya ni bora zaidi kwa sababu ishajengwa. Hii ya majirani hata pengine haitawahi kamilika. Hatuwezi jua mambo ya Kesho. Kwa hivyo sgr ya Kenya kwa sasa ndio inayofanya kazi. Hiyo sgr nyingine ikimalizika muje hapa tuongee lakini kwa sasa ni kazi bure kulinganisha kitu inayofanya kazi na kingine ambacho kiko 16% complete. Walahi there is nothing to compare
 
Kafrican said:
That site is just a FAQ ... but atleast its a start, I'll go through it in detail later...

About the feasibility study... I, m not asking for it to see if the projects are economically viable... It doesnt even have to be a feasibility study document... an Environmental and social impact assessment would be sufficient...
I just need a document that explains the project in details, like why bridges will be built here or there, why electric power was chosen, where will ICDs be located if they are justified, whats the capacity of train station throughput, ..... For Kenyas example... most public projects wont have a feasibility study report found online but every public project must submit an ESIA report to NEMA to be approved... in that report will contain every detail about the project from the scale of the project even how much sand will be u§ed
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You are very knowledgeable on these matters
 
mahenda255 said:
Kwanza ya Kenya ni bora kusafir na basi kulko ile sgr yao [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]et sgr inazdiwa speed na basi kwel jmn
Kenya mnashda maan mpk deni lirud kwa mchina ndo mpate profit na cjui n Lin maskin wa mungu
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WaChina bana LAZIMA tuseme NO NO, big NO. Huo ni unyonyaji uliopitiliza.
 
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