Why do Magufuli supporters think they have a monopoly on patriotism?

Why do Magufuli supporters think they have a monopoly on patriotism?

Waandikie Kiswahili,hawajui kizungu wakiongozwa na Baba yao.

Because they don't know the real meaning Of Patriotism.
 
Cicero said:
Just asking.
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No! Patriotism can not be monopolized by anybody. It can either be practiced, misplaced or misunderstood! Just thinking! However, it can only be practiced by true patriots or compatriots as we used to refer to a group of patriots at then.

The term was synonymous to revolutionarism in the sixties and seventies. We had Patriotic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, we had ZANU Patriotic Front and ZAPU Patritic Front in the Zimbabwean struggle, and other patriotic movements and national armies round the radical world of the sixties and seventies. A patriot was somebody who loved his/ her country and was willing to lay down her/his life for that country.

He is a patriot in the sense that he will not betray his country for whatever reason. He shall speak well of his leaders and his country. He will never betray his people. For this reason Camp David talks floundered because Yasser Arafat was not willing to betray his people. I remember him asking a journalist who interviewed him years before he died (Christian Amanoour Sept 7, 2000) a tough question that changed the course of the interview. When asked about the failed Camp David talks Arafat replied: " Are you ready to betray your people?"

To me Arafat was a patriot. So was Mkwawa the Hehe Chief, Abushiri of Pangani, and Makunganya the lady from around Morogoro. We can mention Brig Tunde Idiagbon the Nigerian "Deputy Head of State" who returned to Lagos from abroad as the coup was unfolding in the capital, just to be with his deposed senior and answer whatever charges they faced.

So was Mandela who refused to be freed while the country continues to suffer under apartheid. So was Salvador Allende who remained in the Palace in Santiago as the coup plotters were zeroing-in, in Sept 1973. So was John Stephen Akhwari who made Tanzania proud in 1968 Mexico Olympics, by limping many kilometers in pain to finish the race for his country.The list is very long.
 
Kwanini usiandike kiswahili tu ndugu?
 
MGILEADI said:
Nilijibu hoja ya Cicero . Nikipata muda nitatafsiri yeye aliandika kwa kiingereza pole ndugu yangu nitajaribu kuitafsiri.
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Unajua tunapata tabu,tudonoa donoa vijimaneno vyepesi!
 
Umenishangaza.. ungeelezea wewe umeona kivipi kwanza maana!!!.. sio kuuliza kama unataka msaada uandike mahala.. duh

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MGILEADI said:
No! Patriotism can not be monopolized by anybody. It can either be practiced, misplaced or misunderstood! Just thinking! However, it can only be practiced by true patriots or compatriots as we used to refer to a group of patriots at then.

The term was synonymous to revolutionarism in the sixties and seventies. We had Patriotic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, we had ZANU Patriotic Front and ZAPU Patritic Front in the Zimbabwean struggle, and other patriotic movements and national armies round the radical world of the sixties and seventies. A patriot was somebody who loved his/ her country and was willing to lay down her/his life for that country.

He is a patriot in the sense that he will not betray his country for whatever reason. He shall speak well of his leaders and his country. He will never betray his people. For this reason Camp David talks floundered because Yasser Arafat was not willing to betray his people. I remember him asking a journalist who interviewed him years before he died (Christian Amanoour Sept 7, 2000) a tough question that changed the course of the interview. When asked about the failed Camp David talks Arafat replied: " Are you ready to betray your people?"

To me Arafat was a patriot. So was Mkwawa the Hehe Chief, Abushiri of Pangani, and Makunganya the lady from around Morogoro. We can mention Brig Tunde Idiagbon the Nigerian "Deputy Head of State" who returned to Lagos from abroad as the coup was unfolding in the capital, just to be with his deposed senior and answer whatever charges they faced.

So was Mandela who refused to be freed while the country continues to suffer under apartheid. So was Salvador Allende who remained in the Palace in Santiago as the coup plotters were zeroing-in, in Sept 1973. So was John Stephen Akhwari who made Tanzania proud in 1968 Mexico Olympics, by limping many kilometers in pain to finish the race for his country.The list is very long.
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What you have written here is beyond bavicha's sphere of comprehension.
 
Magonjwa Mtambuka said:
What you have written here is beyond bavicha's sphere of comprehension.
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This is an apolitical discussion. Don't bring petty politics into it.
Besides, statistics prove you wrong.
The fact of the matter is CCM's supporters are mostly poor and illiterate village folk. Sadly kwa nchi hii hao ndio wengi!
 
Uzalendo ni suala mtambuka. Ni mtambuka kwa sababu yeyote kutoka upande wowote wa kisiasa anaweza kuwa mzalendo. Mzalendo kwa maana kwamba anachosema na kukamini na kukitenda ni kwa ajili ya uhai, usalama na maendeleo ya nchi yake na watu wake. Kinyume chake, ni usaliti!
Usaliti kwa maana kwamba huoni taabu nchi inapopata misukosuko ambayo mwisho wake ni kuchelewesha maendeleo au kuwapa maadui mwanya wa kuiangamiza kwa namna yeyote ile kwa manufaa ya binafsi au ya kikundi!
Tujihoji!
 
MGILEADI said:
No! Patriotism can not be monopolized by anybody. It can either be practiced, misplaced or misunderstood! Just thinking! However, it can only be practiced by true patriots or compatriots as we used to refer to a group of patriots at then.

The term was synonymous to revolutionarism in the sixties and seventies. We had Patriotic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, we had ZANU Patriotic Front and ZAPU Patritic Front in the Zimbabwean struggle, and other patriotic movements and national armies round the radical world of the sixties and seventies. A patriot was somebody who loved his/ her country and was willing to lay down her/his life for that country.

He is a patriot in the sense that he will not betray his country for whatever reason. He shall speak well of his leaders and his country. He will never betray his people. For this reason Camp David talks floundered because Yasser Arafat was not willing to betray his people. I remember him asking a journalist who interviewed him years before he died (Christian Amanoour Sept 7, 2000) a tough question that changed the course of the interview. When asked about the failed Camp David talks Arafat replied: " Are you ready to betray your people?"

To me Arafat was a patriot. So was Mkwawa the Hehe Chief, Abushiri of Pangani, and Makunganya the lady from around Morogoro. We can mention Brig Tunde Idiagbon the Nigerian "Deputy Head of State" who returned to Lagos from abroad as the coup was unfolding in the capital, just to be with his deposed senior and answer whatever charges they faced.

So was Mandela who refused to be freed while the country continues to suffer under apartheid. So was Salvador Allende who remained in the Palace in Santiago as the coup plotters were zeroing-in, in Sept 1973. So was John Stephen Akhwari who made Tanzania proud in 1968 Mexico Olympics, by limping many kilometers in pain to finish the race for his country.The list is very long.
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Very interesting response.
The thing is, I am not sure that a patriot is someone that "speaks well of his leaders".
What is patriotism in the first place? Love for one's country. Simple. I understand in the days gone, a head of state was the state itself (remember the famous quote by the French king: "I am the state and the state is me"?). But we no longer live in monarchies. It is possible to love your country and constructively criticize your leaders; that's one of the pillars of democracy is it not?
 
Walimchagua wao sasa wakimkana itakuwaje?
Wanamshabikia hadharani ila moyoni wanaumia sana
 
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