Why do Magufuli supporters think they have a monopoly on patriotism?

Why do Magufuli supporters think they have a monopoly on patriotism?

Magonjwa Mtambuka said:
What is wrong with that?
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There is nothing wrong with being poor and illiterate?
Alafu i brought this up kukuonyesha kwamba there are more illiterates in UVCCM than BAVICHA.
But that's not the point here. Don't derail our discussion.
 
Cicero said:
There is nothing wrong with being poor and illiterate?
Alafu i brought this up kukuonyesha kwamba there are more illiterates in UVCCM than BAVICHA.
But that's not the point here. Don't derail our discussion.
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What kind of language is that?
 
Magonjwa Mtambuka said:
What kind of language is that?
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Still think there is no problem with being illiterate?
Aliyeandika hapo SHEILD badala ya SHIELD is probably a CCM supporter. I bet good money on that!
 
Cicero said:
Very interesting response.
The thing is, I am not sure that a patriot is someone that "speaks well of his leaders".
What is patriotism in the first place? Love for one's country. Simple. I understand in the days gone, a head of state was the state itself (remember the famous quote by the French king: "I am the state and the state is me"?). But we no longer live in monarchies. It is possible to love your country and constructively criticize your leaders; that's one of the pillars of democracy is it not?
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Speaking well of your leaders includes criticizing them when they do wrong but with a patriotic heart without a heart of a renegade. Without hatred and without disrespectfulness. It seems people in this forum twist words to suit their personal agenda. Patriots will have closed debates where they would hammer their leader who seems to lose vision until he gets it. They will not go everywhere humiliating their own in the name of patriotism. Criticizing does not means insult, defame and dishonor. Fidel didn't like the manner at which Che was behaving as a leader but you didn't hear each one pumping on the other. Nikita Khrushchev was brought down inside closed doors in Moscow and the world does not exactly know what transpired in that secret meeting in the Kremlin. That is my point. A critic who goes around insulting leaders who have been chosen democratically will only end up in prison for sedition and in a worst case scenario, treason. Wait and see.
 
MGILEADI said:
Speaking well of your leaders includes criticizing them when they do wrong but with a patriotic heart without a heart of a renegade. Without hatred and without disrespectfulness. It seems people in this forum twist words to suit their personal agenda. Patriots will have closed debates where they would hammer their leader who seems to lose vision until he gets it. They will not go everywhere humiliating their own in the name of patriotism. Criticizing does not means insult, defame and dishonor. Fidel didn't like the manner at which Che was behaving as a leader but you didn't hear each one pumping on the other. Nikita Khrushchev was brought down inside closed doors in Moscow and the world does not exactly know what transpired in the closed meeting in the Kremlin. That is my point. A critic who goes around insulting leaders who have been chosen democratically will only end up in prison for sedition and in a worst case scenario, treason. Wait and see.
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Its scary that Cuba and the USSR are the countries that we need to compare ourselves to. Have we really gotten to that level?
I get what you mean. Do not hate (insult) a person just hate (criticize) what he does. However, I don't recall any opposition leader insulting JPM the person.
In a proper, functioning multiparty state, it is alright to criticize your leaders as far as you see fit. The first thing JPM did as President was to ban opposition rallies, live parliamentary coverage, then came the cybercrimes law, arrests of democratically elected opposition leaders.......is this anyway to attract constructive criticism?
What if Donald Trump had the temperament of JPM, how many American leaders would be behind bars by now?
 
Barbarosa said:
Kwa sababu tuko upande wa UKWELI na kwenye ukweli Mungu anaishi, chadema ni house niggers son of bitches!
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Hahaha Barbarosa your hate towards CDM is very amusing. Sijui walikukosea nini khaa.....au ulichukua fomu ukakosa?
 
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