Why Magufuli administration misses the point on Government splurge

Why Magufuli administration misses the point on Government splurge

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Rutashubanyuma said:
Can you name one major official graft scam during colonial era? If you can't it is a proof there was accountability.

Far more important is to recognize that pre-independence era also includes pre-colonial era where evidence of massive looting of public coffers witnessed today were simply unthinkable!
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The fact that I don't know of a major graft scam in pre-colonial times does not mean there was none!!! I wouldn't know everything Mkuu.
 
Masunga Maziku said:
We need moral authority as a state, new constitution without moral authority in the oval office is like giving the poor a fish without a lure.!! Look at South African constitution, is among the best constitutions in the world but you know how its government looks alike. Kenyans reformed their constitution and they are still number one in graft and corruption. More report will come out and we will see more clearly how dirty and corrupt these governments are. Its not because they have gotten worse constitutions, they already have better constitutions. But they have no morality and they are so blinded by greed.

On our side, constitutional setup is still on progress but also Magufuli is trying put an emphasis on social morality and point of authority (POA) which had been lost for a decade. This is public health, and we can only do best when we act as one Tanzania.
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KWA WALE WOTE WANAOTETEA DHULUMA ZA CCM SOMENI HAPA!.

After the second World War Europe was rebuilt by American benevolence aka The Marshal Aid Plan.

And a similar plan was instituted by Uncle Sam to Japan.

Africa has received overwhelming aid but our curse has always been myopic African leaders whose greed for self enrichment impoverish all of us.

The time is high to call a spade a spade.
 
dlamini said:
The fact that I don't know of a major graft scam in pre-colonial times does not mean there was none!!! I wouldn't know everything Mkuu.
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I refuse to sympathise with your situation because the content of this is a comparative analysis. If you know not is no excuse to criticize out of nowhere. You have a responsibility to limit yourself to what you only know...
 
Masunga Maziku said:
PUNGUZA UONGO WEWE.!! BAADA YA VITA VYA PILI VYA DUNIA, AFRIKA BADO ILIKUWA NI KOLONI LA MATAIFA KUTOKA ULAYA. HAO VIONGOZI WA KIAFRIKA WALITOKA WAPI.??

You are lying.!! The US motive behind the Marshall plan was to revitalize the European economy to expand trade and thus create economic growth in America. Its good to point out that the Marshall plan was not completely charity. The US benefited by having a more stable European economy for trade and it also worked as a safety precaution against the Soviets. The Soviets probably would have united Germany under communist rule as well as Austria and Greece.
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Accusing someone of lying is serious business but dodging to point out the lies is disingenuous
 
Masunga Maziku said:
You have to answer his question. Because it's a historical fact that Europeans plunder, oppress and kill our fore parents. Europeans held a conference in Berlin from 1884 - 1885 and planned the plunder of Africa. Some of Africans are still too trusting including you Rutashubanyuma .

Most Africa countries are still paying Europeans countries vast amounts of what is essentially extortion money to keep them from instigating coups. Payment made for colonial debt is often one of the top five budget items of African countries. If they stop payment, the Europeans will take steps to ruin the fragile economies and instigate coups.

The BRICS bank was formed to get away from the western, world bank and international monetary fund. No country in history has benefited from the arrival of the Europeans. The only decent and civilized European country is Russia. The rest are the locust of the planet.
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The problem with a qualitative analysis like yours devoid of specificities tend not only mislead or dilute the issues but far more important fails to lead from frontier!
 
Masunga Maziku said:
Gospel truth.!! You sound more like a religious lunatic who should be locked up. You have no difference with UAMSHO, who spared in the shadow of religion to express their political ideology.
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Religious fanaticism when concerned with belly matters? Two Roman Catholics can now be differentiated on religious acrimonious engagements. How misinformed!
 
Rutashubanyuma said:
The problem with a qualitative analysis like yours devoid of specificities tend not only mislead or dilute the issues but far more important fails to lead from frontier!
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I think you really don't know what is going on. Keep it up.
 
Rutashubanyuma ,tell me you ain't fearing Magufuli?i can see it in most of your statements,YES i do agree with you that Magu just like other human beings obvious is not 100% correct,neither you,but for the mean time lets give him a "probation" of at least 6 months,then criticism can be warmly welcomed and applauded as you wish.
 
Rutashubanyuma said:
Can't agree more policies empowered with legislative tinkering is what we truly miss. It is easier to camouflage behind enticing electoral chants such as "HAPA NI KAZI TU!" But lofty questions ought to be probed. Is KAZI an end or a means to an end?

Is not justice the more sure way to combat sickening poverty amidst us?
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Right brother! Magufuli's government must change not only the way it operates but also what motivates it, the engine. The engine (CCM) is itself a total wreck, no amount of overhaul work or replacement parts can put it back to life. In actual fact corrosion has decimated everything in it's core!
The new vehicle JPM needs is the good government model, unfortunately he can't get one from with in the 50 year old vehicle, the 1977 constitution of the URT despite the fact that as President, he is it's first sworn defender. So he, and only he, has to make the hard choice of dumping this for the new one which Hon. Judge J. S. Warioba et al crafted for us. It's only through this can JPM construct the right engine for his vehicle, the type known as "good government". And you know what? This engine runs best only through the best fuel and maintenance practices and the avoidance of at least three of the major characteristics of bad government ie. Ambiguousness, Arbitrariness, and Capriciousness. Unfortunately these were the hallmarks of his predecessor's rule. Again, to drive us to the destination we all want, JPM must get the best fuel for his vehicle: justice for all.
In embarking on this new journey JPM's path won't be downhill all the way, nor will it be all in broad daylight. In fact it's going to be mostly uphill, mostly dark and much of the road will be rocky and full of pot holes. From the general look of things, most Tanzanians have accepted his style and invested their trust in him. He must not let them down by bringing unwanted baggage or tainted leftovers from the previous regimes. He must read the writing on the wall: "NO MORE"
 
Sorry mister, I beg you to forget all about all of this in your mechanics class in college.
Shoctopus said:
Right brother! Magufuli's government must change not only the way it operates but also what motivates it, the engine. The engine (CCM) is itself a total wreck, no amount of overhaul work or replacement parts can put it back to life. In actual fact corrosion has decimated everything in it's core!
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Pushrods engine is older technology than ohc engine, but you have to asked yourself how did a more complex design become prevalent in the first place?

As the same as, what makes Magufuli more prevalent than Kikwete?

Do they the same? Of course, they do not.

Unfortunately in Tanzania, ruling party has nothing to do with the one in state house. That is why, there is a huge different between Magufuli and Kikwete which are still on the same political party.

The matter is the one in state house not the whole party. The bad governance and rampant corruption did not pop up from heaven, it's created.

They had been all over the country, permeated in the society for past ten years and their impact has reached at intolerable stage.

''If a person becomes a billionaire in just few years, that is good enough to ask where and how the money was earned. Has the person broke the law of the country because he or she knows key individuals?

Has the person paid income taxes as required by the law of land and TRA?

These questions were raised during the past government leadership."

In spite of development, it is sad to saw sacrifices of the tens of millions brave Tanzanians were snatched by selfish vultures.

The Magufulism is keen to curbing the corruption, and it begins by applying transparency, accountability and consequence. Nothing else, wrong doers are facing the wrath of the law.
The new vehicle JPM needs is the good movement model, unfortunately he can't get one from with in the 50 year old vehicle, the 1977 constitution of the URT despite the fact that as President, he is it's first sworn defender. So he, and only he, has to make the hard choice of dumping this for the new one which Hon. Judge J. S. Warioba et al crafted for us. It's only through this can JPM construct the right engine for his vehicle, the type known as "good government". And you know what? This engine runs best only through the best fuel and maintenance practices and the avoidance of at least three of the major characteristics of bad government ie. Ambiguousness, Arbitrariness, and Capriciousness. Unfortunately these were the hallmarks of his predecessor's rule. Again, to drive us to the destination we all want, JPM must get the best fuel for his vehicle: justice for all.
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Shoctopus give some credit to the current government. This is a great move from Magufuli. To be a president is a call, it's not a means for one to exploit for own purposes. Character and behavior is one of great importance on this level of executive position. And Magufuli seems to be a good president.
In embarking on this new journey JPM's path won't be downhill all the way, nor will it be all in broad daylight. In fact it's going to be mostly uphill, mostly dark and much of the road will be rocky and full of pot holes. From the general look of things, most Tanzanians have accepted his style and invested their trust in him. He must not let them down by bringing unwanted baggage or tainted leftovers from the previous regimes. He must read the writing on the wall: "NO MORE"
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I realized it. And I am confident that is not business as usual.
 
Masunga Maziku said:
teh teh teh sorry mister, I beg you to forget all about all of this in your mechanics class in college.Pushrods engine is older technology than ohc engine, but you have to asked yourself how did a more complex design become prevalent in the first place.?? As the same as, what makes Magufuli more prevalent than Kikwete.?? Do they the same.?? Of course, they do not.

Unfortunately in Tanzania, ruling party has nothing to do with the one in state house. That is why, there is a huge different between Magufuli and Kikwete which were still on the same political party. The matter is the one in state house not the whole party. The bad governance and rampant corruption did not pop up from heaven, it's created. They had been all over the country, permeated in the society for past ten years and their impact has reached at intolerable stage.

''If a person becomes a billionaire in just few years, that is good enough to ask where and how the money was earned. Has the person broke the law of the country because he/she knows key individuals.?? Has the person paid income taxes as required by the law of land.?? ''

In spite of development, it is sad to saw sacrifices of the tens of thousands brave Tanzanians were snatched by selfish vultures. The Magufulism is keen to curbing the corruption, it begins by applying transparency, accountability and consequence. Nothing else, wrong doers are facing the wrath of the law.
Shoctopus give some credit to the current government. This is a great move from Magufuli. To be a president is a call, it's not a means for one to exploit for own purposes. Character and behavior is one of great importance on this level of executive position. And Magufuli seems to be a good president. I realized it. And I am confident that is not business as usual.
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Well said again brother! But if by your understanding, my above comment is about 'college mechanics', I am sorry you have missed the train!
 
Masunga Maziku said:
You are a big liar to claim that Africa has received the Marshal aid, because after world war II Africans were still under colonialists.
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At least you have confirmed what I have always suspected about you.

I never alluded Africa received Marshal Plan but I compared how prepared Europe after the second World war to absorb and well spend the billions of dollar endowed to them.

Unless you suggest otherwise Africa post colonial administrations have been rat holes when it comes to donor money.

Defend them if you can but do not put words in my mouth just to disqualify my gist and justify yourself through misplaced criticism.
 
Edward Teller said:
Rutashubanyuma ,tell me you ain't fearing Magufuli?i can see it in most of your statements,YES i do agree with you that Magu just like other human beings obvious is not 100% correct,neither you,but for the mean time lets give him a "probation" of at least 6 months,then criticism can be warmly welcomed and applauded as you wish.
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We are just doing that. We foretell times but we cannot foresee failure
 
Masunga Maziku said:
teh teh teh sorry mister, I beg you to forget all about all of this in your mechanics class in college.Pushrods engine is older technology than ohc engine, but you have to asked yourself how did a more complex design become prevalent in the first place.?? As the same as, what makes Magufuli more prevalent than Kikwete.?? Do they the same.?? Of course, they do not.

Unfortunately in Tanzania, ruling party has nothing to do with the one in state house. That is why, there is a huge different between Magufuli and Kikwete which were still on the same political party. The matter is the one in state house not the whole party. The bad governance and rampant corruption did not pop up from heaven, it's created. They had been all over the country, permeated in the society for past ten years and their impact has reached at intolerable stage.

''If a person becomes a billionaire in just few years, that is good enough to ask where and how the money was earned. Has the person broke the law of the country because he/she knows key individuals.?? Has the person paid income taxes as required by the law of land.?? ''

In spite of development, it is sad to saw sacrifices of the tens of thousands brave Tanzanians were snatched by selfish vultures. The Magufulism is keen to curbing the corruption, it begins by applying transparency, accountability and consequence. Nothing else, wrong doers are facing the wrath of the law.
Shoctopus give some credit to the current government. This is a great move from Magufuli. To be a president is a call, it's not a means for one to exploit for own purposes. Character and behavior is one of great importance on this level of executive position. And Magufuli seems to be a good president. I realized it. And I am confident that is not business as usual.
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Distancing Magufuli from ccm the party that groomed him to where he is may sound a clever ploy to keep ccm perpetually in power. But the vital question is after ten years of Magufuli's massive underperforming will a similar circus goes unnoticed?

The problems we are facing our not caused by personalities but endemic systems malfunctioning.

Fix the systems we can even put anybody there and the well functioning systems will bali us out.

Trusting men over systems is a short term fix to win the next election but is of no developmental consequence
 
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