Will Lissu become a Puppet or a Patriot

[FisadiKuu]

poor minded Africans, always believing that westerners have some evil agenda against them! if the westerners wanted to wipe us out they would in in just one week. If they wanted to control us for their benefits they would. You are living surrounded by western technologies and even your life depends on their medicines, your so called 'security' is their depreciated junk, but still complaining that they are ploting against you, sometimes they just want to help!

Well said, they need no marnouver to control us

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[Estone]

But you're doing the same mistake Lissu has been doing all this time, assuming that his enemy is the his been poking all along. But what if he's wrong, what if his enemy is within his own circle (and am not implying that is true). Lets out that on one side, Lissu is a lawyer, he's very much aware where to go and find justice if he feels that someone is not paying attention. How could investigators even start to investigate without his cooperation, he's a citizen of this country, he's under the constitution of this country, the constitution doesn't work out there, it works within our borders.

The investigator use hypotheses and prove them wrong or right, I’m sure you are Tanzanian you know about suspect who are remanded but not yet proven guilty.

I suppose you are not a new comer in this land , there some evil action which were done at night but still we heard of suspect being caught.

Unlike the one we’re discussing now
First it was done during day light as you know gun shot make explosive sound but no one was caught as a suspect.

Second there events where the victims are dead but still the suspect are caught who give cooperation when the victim is dead?

So do you mean if this man was shot dead no investigation would be done on pretence of lack of cooperation?

So far so good the act was perpetrated at a place which heavily guarded why can’t he suspect the doers by context?

Do not assume that Tanzanian are so naive to understand this issues as the matter of fact there people who did witness the events so they know the whole move.

 

[Waberoya]

Those qualities you've mentioned they are not desirable to us either, not only to the west. From the question you've asked and the article you've written about Lissu, it's clear that you know him for a while, and for my opinion Lissu has been the most patriotic person before he even get into politics, and he has proved to be the same guy contrary to the expectations of many that he may change due the attack that happened to him.

History

 

[Waberoya]

Lissu is a clear indication what kind of politics especially opposition are forcing on us, zero fact, zero answers to real problem, and lack of patriotism. Once your a leader even in opposition, you should know that your part of governing body, You need to learn to behave like government in waiting.

splendid

 

[The Palm Tree]

Tundu Lissu is making the most of his incident.He is going to the international community.But what is Tundu Looking for?

Is he looking for sympathy?Is he looking of support?or asylum?

To me personally,I am of the opinion that Lisu's ordeal might bring bad luck upon him.He may become a puppet which I believe was not his goal

The west is looking at Tanzania.They know something is wrong somewhere and they are looking for a horse to back

They will not back Lissu because they care about him,or about us.They are actually in the hunt for a puppet and the attention they are giving him now is to feed his ego while understanding his personality.At the end of it all they will decide if Lissu is worth a bet.

They need to know if Lissu is a hardliner or a blabber or megalomaniac.In any case they only need him for their own purpose.

Magufuli has proven to be a trouble maker,ineffective and unpredictable.These qualities are not desirable in the west.The question is will Lissu be better off then Magufuli in the eyes of the westerners?

If you go back to the previous interview with BBC you will notice that Tundu Lissu made a mistake which will cause the west to rally around him not because they love him but because he has shown that he can be controlled

The questions which he was asked as simple as they were did not reveal him as a true leader,a patriot or a hero instead he appeared to be seeking attention,sympathy and yet he was not strategic.

He did not stick to the facts instead he showed them his weak spots

My suggestions

TUNDU stop this TOUR of YOURS unless you are read to take the bull by the horn and you have an Agenda that is clear and to the point.If you do not,you will be taken for a joy ride and after the ride,the west might decide to support you to become a president while you are personally not ready,physically or mentally

All in ALL the interview was good and it put most key issues in perspective to some extent
I remain to be corrected

Who told you he's seeking for the presidency?

He is there for treatment after having milacuosily survived 20 gun bullets shots!!

Having been invited for interviews in different International medias can't be a proof to what you think...

But, if he happens to be Magufuli and CCM's opponent in the 2020 coming general election.........

Wooh, that will be an incredible political battle Tanzania had never witnessed since inception of multiparty democracy in 1992!!

Why?

Because, two "insane" politicians with different "insanity levels".....the other, older being dumby and naturally insane while the other, younger being professional insane with high international exposure....!!

 

[Waberoya]

The investigator use hypotheses and prove them wrong or right, I’m sure you are Tanzanian you know about suspect who are remanded but not yet proven guilty.

I suppose you are not a new comer in this land , there some evil action which were done at night but still we heard of suspect being caught.

Unlike the one we’re discussing now
First it was done during day light as you know gun shot make explosive sound but no one was caught as a suspect.

Second there events where the victims are dead but still the suspect are caught who give cooperation when the victim is dead?

So do you mean if this man was shot dead no investigation would be done on pretence of lack of cooperation?

So far so good the act was perpetrated at a place which heavily guarded why can’t he suspect the doers by context?

Do not assume that Tanzanian are so naive to understand this issues as the matter of fact there people who did witness the events so they know the whole move.

Young girl

write it down and dont be so naive and stupid when at least you know english more than I do

IF PRESIDENT OF TANZANIA WOULD HAVE WANTED LISSU DEAD...there was no escape

after attack we was rushed to hospital(dead point), before any plane fly must get permit...they could have even send rocket to that small plane!

There is no any where in Tanzania where you can classify as heavily guarded! not even at state house

use your brain, this was done by third party who knew that after accomplish his mission small brain people like you would think is government!! he got you

Fake polices, fake TISS may have gone at that location with official letters that they they have been transfered from headquarter to that place!...they arranged that plot for months!

Fakes police, fake traffic police, fake medical doctors are not news in Tanzania!...

No Government would want to kills someone by showoff!!.!!!! why!!!...do they want to be seen as hero??

One sniper would have done this with single bullet from nearby tall buildings which they are there!

They could have killed him as accident in the mid of forest! all they way from DSM to Dodoma
why is that they wanted to kill him at his resident?? and you still think you are smart???

Sit down calmly and weep!..

 

[Waberoya]

Who told you he's seeking for the presidency?

He is there for treatment after having milacuosily survived 20 gun bullets shots!!

Having been invited for interviews in different International medias can't be a proof to what you think...

But, if he happens to be Magufuli and CCM's opponent in the 2020 coming general election.........

Wooh, that will be an incredible political battle Tanzania had never witnessed since inception of multiparty democracy in 1992!!

Why?

Because, two "insane" politicians with different "insanity levels".....the other, older being dumby and naturally insane while the other, younger being professional insane with high international exposure....!!

LIssu vs JPM will be good battle?? in 2020?

Please dont use cocaine

 

[Mwanzi1]

The investigator use hypotheses and prove them wrong or right, I’m sure you are Tanzanian you know about suspect who are remanded but not yet proven guilty.

I suppose you are not a new comer in this land , there some evil action which were done at night but still we heard of suspect being caught.

Unlike the one we’re discussing now
First it was done during day light as you know gun shot make explosive sound but no one was caught as a suspect.

Second there events where the victims are dead but still the suspect are caught who give cooperation when the victim is dead?

So do you mean if this man was shot dead no investigation would be done on pretence of lack of cooperation?

So far so good the act was perpetrated at a place which heavily guarded why can’t he suspect the doers by context?

Do not assume that Tanzanian are so naive to understand this issues as the matter of fact there people who did witness the events so they know the whole move.

Two principle witness whom are directly involved with indecent are missing or in hiding which are Lissu and the driver. even if what you said is true, that there were witnesses who saw the whole thing, why no one has come forward or even sending anonymous message to the authority? There hundreds if not thousand of cases regarding dead people which have hit a snag on there investigation, Tanzania is not the only country with these kind of cases. But for the person who know and understand the justice system, he cant blame anyone else if his using this incidence for political millage .

 

[The Palm Tree]

LIssu vs JPM will be good battle?? in 2020?

Please dont use cocaine

Not cocaine you known for a long time and got to use it....!!

Yes, it will be a battle between darkness (Magufuli) and the light (Lissu)

You can guess who will outshine the other....

Hopefully, the "darkness" won't, unless being assisted with gun bullets and witchcrafts to secure the win...!!

Otherwise, whether you like it or not, Magufuli alone is nothing, empty and a cut chicken head before Lissu!!

You can either swallow or spit it....

 

[Estone]

Young girl

write it down and dont be so naive and stupid when at least you know english more than I do

IF PRESIDENT OF TANZANIA WOULD HAVE WANTED LISSU DEAD...there was no escape

after attack we was rushed to hospital(dead point), before any plane fly must get permit...they could have even send rocket to that small plane!

There is no any where in Tanzania where you can classify as heavily guarded! not even at state house

use your brain, this was done by third party who knew that after accomplish his mission small brain people like you would think is government!! he got you

Fake polices, fake TISS may have gone at that location with official letters that they they have been transfered from headquarter to that place!...they arranged that plot for months!

Fakes police, fake traffic police, fake medical doctors are not news in Tanzania!...

No Government would want to kills someone by showoff!!.!!!! why!!!...do they want to be seen as hero??

One sniper would have done this with single bullet from nearby tall buildings which they are there!

They could have killed him as accident in the mid of forest! all they way from DSM to Dodoma
why is that they wanted to kill him at his resident?? and you still think you are smart???

Sit down calmly and weep!..

This is very strange! Do you want to prove here that if the evil doers were third part,the government is not responsible to pin them down?

If they were all fake personels so even the police succumbed and the pain the man experienced was fake?
Yeah now we know that we have the hit squad who can use a rocket just to hunt down a single man with fact in his mouth.

Please boy write you points do not ejaculate your assumptions over here.

 

[Estone]

Two principle witness whom are directly involved with indecent are missing or in hiding which are Lissu and the driver. even if what you said is true, that there were witnesses who saw the whole thing, why no one has come forward or even sending anonymous message to the authority? There hundreds if not thousand of cases regarding dead people which have hit a snag on there investigation, Tanzania is not the only country with these kind of cases. But for the person who know and understand the justice system, he cant blame anyone else if his using this incidence for political millage .

No one will give some precious food to glottun pigs rest they maul him/her.
How will people send anonymous message when all doors are shut? There those who tried to make freelance investigation on some issues but they are silenced to darkness

 

[Mwanzi1]

No one will give some precious food to glottun pigs rest they maul him/her.
How will people send anonymous message when all doors are shut? There those who tried to make freelance investigation on some issues but they are silenced to darkness

Again, serious allegation with no proof. Which door was shut? There is criminal file registered by the police in Dodoma and no one has ever gone to add a single comment, even Chadema themselves they haven't shown their faces. Look, if people were really serious with this issue, they should ask the motive of main victims and why they are on the run.

 

[Qwy]

poor minded Africans, always believing that westerners have some evil agenda against them! if the westerners wanted to wipe us out they would in in just one week. If they wanted to control us for their benefits they would. You are living surrounded by western technologies and even your life depends on their medicines, your so called 'security' is their depreciated junk, but still complaining that they are ploting against you, sometimes they just want to help!

You nailed it.

 

[Estone]

Okay let every one believe what deem fit his mind.

 

[Qwy]

But you're doing the same mistake Lissu has been doing all this time, assuming that his enemy is the his been poking all along. But what if he's wrong, what if his enemy is within his own circle (and am not implying that is true). Lets out that on one side, Lissu is a lawyer, he's very much aware where to go and find justice if he feels that someone is not paying attention. How could investigators even start to investigate without his cooperation, he's a citizen of this country, he's under the constitution of this country, the constitution doesn't work out there, it works within our borders.

His cooperation is not necessary for investigation to take off, what if he would've died? CCTV records will without doubt open the doors because the faces of the shooters will be clear. Step two 'who ordered the security personnel to vacate the area before the attack?'
So those bullshit excuses of his or drivers cooperation don't carry weight not even a bit.
If they aren't capable then why not ask for assistance from those who are capable of doing the investigation? though that depends only on if there is a will from the authorities of doing the investigation.

 

[Qwy]

Young girl

write it down and dont be so naive and stupid when at least you know english more than I do

IF PRESIDENT OF TANZANIA WOULD HAVE WANTED LISSU DEAD...there was no escape

after attack we was rushed to hospital(dead point), before any plane fly must get permit...they could have even send rocket to that small plane!

There is no any where in Tanzania where you can classify as heavily guarded! not even at state house

use your brain, this was done by third party who knew that after accomplish his mission small brain people like you would think is government!! he got you

Fake polices, fake TISS may have gone at that location with official letters that they they have been transfered from headquarter to that place!...they arranged that plot for months!

Fakes police, fake traffic police, fake medical doctors are not news in Tanzania!...

No Government would want to kills someone by showoff!!.!!!! why!!!...do they want to be seen as hero??

One sniper would have done this with single bullet from nearby tall buildings which they are there!

They could have killed him as accident in the mid of forest! all they way from DSM to Dodoma
why is that they wanted to kill him at his resident?? and you still think you are smart???

Sit down calmly and weep!..

Your cheap deceiving plans won't work, some of us aren't fools and we can read between the lines or rather beyond the lines so try something else.
The system wanted him dead but unfortunately they failed which is something they were not expecting hence the lack of plan B otherwise they would have finished their mission before he flew to Nairobi whilst still at the Dodoma hospital.

 

[Qwy]

Tundu Lissu is making the most of his incident.He is going to the international community.But what is Tundu Looking for?

Is he looking for sympathy?Is he looking of support?or asylum?

To me personally,I am of the opinion that Lisu's ordeal might bring bad luck upon him.He may become a puppet which I believe was not his goal

The west is looking at Tanzania.They know something is wrong somewhere and they are looking for a horse to back

They will not back Lissu because they care about him,or about us.They are actually in the hunt for a puppet and the attention they are giving him now is to feed his ego while understanding his personality.At the end of it all they will decide if Lissu is worth a bet.

They need to know if Lissu is a hardliner or a blabber or megalomaniac.In any case they only need him for their own purpose.

Magufuli has proven to be a trouble maker,ineffective and unpredictable.These qualities are not desirable in the west.The question is will Lissu be better off then Magufuli in the eyes of the westerners?

If you go back to the previous interview with BBC you will notice that Tundu Lissu made a mistake which will cause the west to rally around him not because they love him but because he has shown that he can be controlled

The questions which he was asked as simple as they were did not reveal him as a true leader,a patriot or a hero instead he appeared to be seeking attention,sympathy and yet he was not strategic.

He did not stick to the facts instead he showed them his weak spots

My suggestions

TUNDU stop this TOUR of YOURS unless you are read to take the bull by the horn and you have an Agenda that is clear and to the point.If you do not,you will be taken for a joy ride and after the ride,the west might decide to support you to become a president while you are personally not ready,physically or mentally

All in ALL the interview was good and it put most key issues in perspective to some extent
I remain to be corrected

Is this analysis or just mere cheap deceiving assumptions?, a total flop through and through.

 

[Frateris_Noster]

Searching for sympathy from wrong sympathisers!

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[Mwanzi1]

His cooperation is not necessary for investigation to take off, what if he would've died? CCTV records will without doubt open the doors because the faces of the shooters will be clear. Step two 'who ordered the security personnel to vacate the area before the attack?'
So those bullshit excuses of his or drivers cooperation don't carry weight not even a bit.
If they aren't capable then why not ask for assistance from those who are capable of doing the investigation? though that depends only on if there is a will from the authorities of doing the investigation.

I believe your taking hypothetically here, but let's go with that theory that there where CCTV and shooter's face is clear. Let me ask you this, how many case have been solve in Tanzanian courts using CCTV footage as primary evidence? The answer is non, why, is because there laws which they they haven't been amended by the parliament before CCTV can be used as evidence in courts. You might put someone on stand but if they had good lawyer, they can work with CCTV image right there if they've alibi. Yes dead people are investigated but at least the judge will need someone who is alive to give account to what happen.

 

[HIMARS]

Muulize Maduro

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