William Ruto ICC trial thread.

[RealMan]

Wenye kujilipua hii kesi ndo ilikuwa ya kutokea sasa.....

Unajifanya shahidi kisha along the process unadai maisha yako yanatishiwa, unaomba hifadhi huko kunako nchi pendwa!!

Missed opportunity.......hahahahahaaaaa

 

[Jammu Africa]

For those who believed that the cover would not be blown out,,then they must be
living in another planet.

Yes,,the European and Americans can believe so,,,for they think, that, we Africans
are still in those dark ages,,,but we tell them,,,that we have come of age,,
we can even do many things better than,,them.

They never expected Kenya or any other African state,,,of trying to think
of getting out of the Rome statute.

That is why,,leaders of some small parties in Netherlands approached the leader of
majority in parliament of Kenya,,mr Duale,,when he and others MP's accompanied mr
Ruto to the Hague,,and tried advising him that what steps Kenya was taking,,trying
to lead other countries of Africa out of the Roman statute,that it was not the right
one.

I hope,,that they did the same thing with Americans,,when they (Americans) were
getting out of it.

Now they take some people out of the country,,,put some stupid
cover over them,,,and expect everything will remain as per the plan.

They did the same thing,,,when jailing Jomo Kenyatta,,,in 1950's,
the same,,,though this time,,,they have upgraded from using a sack (
ngunia) to having the picture of the witness,,distorted.

They do this,,eti for the safety of the witness,,,they care so much
the same they cared about that false witness.. was he called
Rawson Kamau or whatever,,,that fake witness who helped
put mzee Jomo Kenyatta, in the detention.

They want to do the same to his son,,,this time,,eti,,fighting
impunity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it will never happen.

If Raila,,,and others,,can live in this country,,,,freely,,despite all the
the things they have done,,,,,like plunging this
country into chaos as those of 2007,,then running to their friends
and giving them a list of,,,he he he he,,,the suspects,,,,,and nobody
touches him,,,,,who are those other people more dangerous than the
one we have in this country,,,roaming,,freely from on corner
to the other?

What i have come to find out,,,that it is very easy
to fool white people,,,very easily,,,i have lived
with them,,,they can believe on anything,,,that
is why so many people flocked into Europe
and America,,,deceiving them that they were
running from persecution,,,when they were
just,,,economic migrants.

That is why NGO's in Africa do rake so much dollars
and Euros,,,,that is why so much money come
from churches,,there into hands of Mikoras,,
in Africa.

Wajinga sana.

 

[Jammu Africa]

It had been reported that the witness was going to be a 36years old woman
who was a cook to a very prominent politician,,in the rift valley????

Yes she looks 36.

She claimed,,,in the court that she never went to any school,,,but once in
a while,,,she would use some English words.

Listening at her story which was very fascinating,,because she was
speaking like a reporter,,a person who saw everything,,,,even counted
people to be around 3,000 people,,the assailants,,,,and i asked myself,
is it really possible to guess that number of 3,000?????

You must be a mathematician.

And what really surprised me,,is the details she had,,,a person who was
running from danger,,,could it be possible for you to see everything so
accurately,,and here,,,your life is danger??????

Then you will acting,,more than those CNN,BBC Aljazeera reporters,
will do,,at least they will take cover and save their lives,,,unlike
this witness who saw everything.

I'm about to go and watch those court proceedings from the Hague
and see how this witness,,atakarangwa,,,by defense lawyers. 🙂

Before i forget,,,,the translation was so terrible,,they could,,at least,,
have sought my service,,for free,,despite the limitation of my English and
Kiswahili.

What is ,,,kinyasa,,is it leaves in English.
Watu wakongwe,,,,,brave people?????????

Then,,the witness said something funny,,this one who never went
to any school,,,,,eti,,,

'tulienda katika hiyo kanisa,,saa nane ya asubuhi'.

Is there anything like saa nane asubuhi in,,Kiswahili,,unless
somebody did help her translate,,straight from English,,then
she must have lied,, that she never went to any school.

Only a person who knows English,,,who can make this mistake,
which is common or somebody was telling her what to say who
does not know,,kiswahili that much.

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

Wanapenda kulia eti Ukoloni mamboleo, mara sijui wazungu wanatuchukia...afu ukiangalia mawakili wao unashangaa!
Wote wazungu wa kwa malkia huko Uingereza. Sasa tujueje?...lol

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

[h=1][/h]Man named by witness was freed on murder charge


[h=3]In Summary[/h]

• The four were set free by Justice David Maraga after the hearing in which 31 prosecution witnesses, most of them survivors of the church incident, testified. It took one year for the case to be concluded.
• The court also wondered why out of the alleged 4,000 masked raiders who allegedly attacked the church, only four were arrested.
• He said he heard of the Kiambaa fire, which consumed 35 lives, on radio while he was away.

Mr Stephen Kipleting Chamalan, the man who was widely mentioned by the first witness against Deputy President William Ruto and radio presenter Joshua Sang at the ICC, was accused and acquitted of being involved in the Kiambaa church fire.

He was among four men charged with the murder of seven people at the Kiambaa Kenya Assembles of God (KAG) church in Eldoret on January 1, 2008.

Mr Chamalan, who is County Rep for Ngeria Ward in Uasin Gishu, was charged with Mr Julius Rono, Mr Emmanuel Lamai and his younger brother Mr Clement Lamai.

The four were set free by Justice David Maraga after the hearing in which 31 prosecution witnesses, most of them survivors of the church incident, testified. It took one year for the case to be concluded.

Justice Maraga said there was insufficient evidence for a conviction and accused police of shoddy investigations.

“Out of 100 suspects, it is better to acquit 99 criminals than convict one innocent person,” the judge said.

“I fault the police for failing to present the incident properly, that way I have placed the blame where it belongs,” he said.

The court observed that although the attack occurred in broad daylight, it was impossible to positively identify the culprits.

The court also wondered why out of the alleged 4,000 masked raiders who allegedly attacked the church, only four were arrested.

THE BURNING CHURCH

The judge said Mr Chamalan and his brother Clement were identified by some of the witnesses as having tried to rescue people from the burning church, while the evidence against Mr Lamai and Mr Rono was unreliable.

In his defence, Mr Chamalan said a witness had framed him because she was bitter after he dismissed her from his campaign team. He vied for Ngeria Ward seat in the 2007 General Election.

“Ngeria, which hosts Kiambaa church, is my political stronghold. How then could I burn the very people on whose doors I had been knocking in search of votes?” he asked the court.

He said he heard of the Kiambaa fire, which consumed 35 lives, on radio while he was away.

Mr Chamalan dismissed the evidence of the witness, saying, she wanted to get back at him because she had called him on December 31, 2007 asking him to go and rescue her parents in Kimuli, but he refused.

He did not expound to the court why he refused to go rescue the witness’s parents.


After he was acquitted, Leting’ read a scripture from Psalm 124 which propped his proclamation that indeed it took the hand of God for him to be free again.



Man named by witness was freed on murder charge - Politics - nation.co.ke

 

[chash]

Deputy President William Ruto arrived in the Netherlands on Monday for the resumption of his trial by the International Criminal Court at The Hague.

The Deputy President, alongside one-time radio journalist Joshua arap Sang, is facing charges of murder, deportation and persecution, related to the 2007/8 post-election violence.

On Monday, the Nation established that the prosecution has lined up 10 witnesses between Tuesday and October 4 when the trial chamber adjourns for a week, according to the initial court calendar.

The first prosecution witness takes the stand today after proceedings were adjourned last week.

According to the legal representative for the victims, Mr Wilfred Nderitu, there is no specific sequence for the appearance of the witnesses.

"There are no specific numbers of witnesses lined up this week but we expect that 10 will testify during this session," said Mr Nderitu.

A woman, who was a victim of the Kiambaa Church arson attack, will be the first on the stand Tuesday.

Lead prosecution counsel Antony Steynberg had indicated that the prosecution would call up to "22 victims and witnesses, common Kenyan people, who will describe the attacks" in the towns of Turbo, Kapsabet and Nandi Hills and five locations in the greater Eldoret in the case against Mr Ruto and Mr Sang.

The five locations are Kiambaa, Langas, Yamumbi, Huruma and Kimumu.

According to Mr Nderitu, it is not clear whether the witness will testify in public. "That would be a decision to be taken by the chamber at the start tomorrow," he said.

Lawyers familiar with the operations of the ICC said the public may not be able to see the witness but the rest of the parties will.

"The court can direct that the curtains be drawn as the witness walks into the chamber so that the public do not get to see who the person is. However, the defence has always insisted that they want to see their accusers," said a lawyer.

"If a witness claims to have heard certain conversations then the defence can know how to handle that after knowing who they are."

USE OF PSEUDONYMS

However, in exceptional circumstances, the witness might also be protected from the defence.

"Protective measures, may for example include, the use of pseudonyms, the redaction of documents or a disclosure ban or the use of audio-visual techniques to conceal the identity of a person appearing before the court," ICC spokesman Fadi El Abdallah said.

Mr Ruto will thus, for the first time, come face-to-face with one of his accusers.

The prosecution appeared keen to start the case with the Kiambaa arson attack, in which up to 35 people were killed, to have a powerful beginning to the trial.

The burning of the church shook the world and was reminiscent of the Rwanda genocide.

The prosecution was said to have lined up three witnesses, described as insiders, who took part in the crime but had taken a plea bargain.

They withdrew just before the trial started, sending Ms Bensouda and her team back to the drawing board.

The second witness, Mr Herve Maupeu or witness P-464, is a European-based expert who will provide the historical roots of the violence.

Presiding judge Chile Eboe-Osuji had last week described the request for adjournment as a "shame" although the chamber went ahead and granted it.

This gave Mr Ruto an opportunity to travel back home for five days.

On Monday was an ICC holiday, meaning the trials could only resume Tuesday.

Mr Ruto is accompanied to The Hague by his wife, Rachel, and five MPs.

When he returned last Thursday, Mr Ruto told Kenyans to be ready for a surprise, which could emerge from the proceedings.

The first witness is reportedly a former employee of one of the prominent personalities the prosecution, in its updated Pre-Trial Brief detailing the charges against Mr Ruto and Mr Sang, claimed hosted a meeting of Kalenjin youth at his residence to plan the attack of December 31, 2007 - a day after former President Kibaki was declared winner of the elections.

"On December 31, 2007 at the farm of businessman near Kimuri, approximately 3,000 Kalenjin youths who attended at this location on November 23 and December 26 gathered. Members of this group of youths attacked the Kiambaa Church the next day, including Steven Chamalan Leting, Emmanuel Bor, Kimei Bor as well as a youth called Brown," the prosecution said.

Statements from witnesses state that up to 350 women, children, elderly and disabled persons from Kiambaa and surrounding areas took shelter at the church, with 150 men outside standing guard.

The prosecution alleges that "Ruto himself had identified Kiambaa as a target for attack and as being densely populated with Kikuyu. Further, Ruto's close associate, Mark Too, hosted several planning/preparatory meetings at his compound near Kiambaa in the months preceding the elections".

Those who will view the trial proceedings on television, however, will not be able to see or identify the voice of the witnesses owing to the strict protection procedure that are established by the ICC to secure the physical and psychological well-being of those who testify.

"There is a mechanism in place to ensure the physical and psychological well being of the witness so that the testimony they provide will not endanger their lives and that of their family," said ICC Outreach official in charge of Kenya and Uganda, Ms Maria Kamara.

The measures include failure to read the name of the witness in the courtroom, occasional testifying in closed sessions, blocking full view of the public, blurring the witness' face and manipulating the voice.

"The accused, however, has a right of seeing the person who is testifying against them," she said meaning that Mr Ruto, Mr Sang and their lawyers will see the witness in court.

In extreme cases, however, the accused persons could testify from the witness room at The Hague via video link.

"This is meant to avoid eye contact with the accused person in special circumstances. However, we don't know the protection measures which will be put in place tomorrow (Tuesday)," explained Ms Kamara.

After giving evidence, the witnesse will be cross-examined by the defence and the attorney for the victims.

Yesterday, there were reports that Ms Bensouda could present American satellite imagery expert Lars Bromley to explain satellite images, including those of Kiambaa Church, which were reportedly captured during the post-election chaos.

The geo-information specialist at the American Association for the Advancement of Science who has extensively documented the atrocities in Darfur and Zimbabwe will be expected to help locate the crisis spots, magnify the images and figure them out as proofs of arson attacks and mass murders.

He will be followed by the Frenchman, Prof Maupeu. Ms Bensouda argues that Prof Maupeu had conducted research in Kenya for many years and understood Kenya's politics, an attribute that would help the judges understand what led to the violence.

His publications include Physiology of a Massacre in 2002; The Massacre of March 3, 2002, Kariobangi North (Nairobi Kenya) and a paper titled Revisiting Post Election Violence of 2009.

Meanwhile, the International Criminal Court is expanding the detention unit to include a female section in anticipation of the arrival of former Ivory Coast president Laurent Gbagbo's wife, Simone Gbagbo.

Mr Gbagbo himself is already in detention at the ICC awaiting trial for crimes against humanity.

I do not agree with the ICC. Why should a few men be prosecuted for tribal clashes that have been in existence since time immemorial. Also note that in other areas the tribal clashes are still ongoing and nobody is getting arrested. ICC is just playing politics and should be countered with politics

 

[Dr. Job]

I do not agree with the ICC. Why should a few men be prosecuted for tribal clashes that have been in existence since time immemorial. Also note that in other areas the tribal clashes are still ongoing and nobody is getting arrested. ICC is just playing politics and should be countered with politics

You have asked a good question which is very simple to answer....LACK OF WILL POWER FROM THE GOVERNMENT!

 

[Mfamaji]

It is amazing to see murderers voted for the high office. It was a highly risky endevour by Kenyans.

 

[Dr. Job]

The cheer-leaders in camp Uhuruto have probably not appreciated the gravity of the link between Kipleting Chemalan (URP County Rep) and his URP boss William Ruto. Judges will easily figure the link by the URP affiliation besides the duo's names. The link is not only political, but also connects the nexus to what the OTP called the "network" - and its horrendous unfolding right at the burnt Kiambaa Church. People keep asking where is the link between Ruto and the youth –when it stares them in the face.

Big shots like Ruto and Uhuru used local political leaders (as explained by Justice Waki) to mobilize and coordinate violence at the grassroots. When Ruto was in ODM Chemalan was in ODM. Ruto is now in URP, Chemalan is also an elected County Rep in URP. Tick!
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The mere mention of how Chemalan was corruptly exculpated from his role in Kiambaa –thanks to the rotten judiciary (Nakuru Court) and his political god father– only worsens the already-bad situation.

Chemalan walked from the Kangaroo court sanitized, then immediately got reinstated into local leadership of none other than theKiambaa ground-zero (Ngewa ward). This is the best testimony to Judges why witnesses are terrified coming forward to testify.
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I mean, how can the same woman/victim who saw Chemalan with the petroleum jerry can (that fueled the burning of her own children) submit herself to the leadership of "Mheshimiwa" Chemalan (URP) in the same vicinity where she lost her kids.
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Talk of impunity! What kind of "peace" has returned under these circumstances? These details of our impunity-filled banana republic will become clearer to the ICC Judges in due course. Justice must not only be done, but also seen to be done.

I also suspect that ICC Judges won't allow further tormenting of the brave woman who survived the three dragons chasing witnesses (assassination, intimidation, bribery) to successfully recount the Kiambaa ordeal at the Hague.. Defense lawyers (Khan, Katwa) spent a good part of yesterday fighting to expose the identities of these terrified witnesses. Khan kept drumming the fallacy - "if they (witnesses) are telling the truth, why do they have to hide?"...yet this is a country where the criminal murder/arson coordinator (Chemalan) gets "elected" in the very next election cycle to represent the same murder/arson site. This is the same country whose legislature has voted to pull the country out of the Rome Statute…essentially to remove the Constitutional obligation to follow upcoming ICC rulings…

Whereas pulling Kenya out of ICC does not affect the current cases, the government of Kenya can (1 year later) officially end cooperation with the court…leaving "former ICC witnesses" on their own, hanging high and dry (at risk)…and also removing any obligation on the Kenyan government to obey impeding ICC orders. That means if Ruto is found guilty in 2015, Kenya can decide to ignore the verdict and refuse to hand him over if by then Kenya will have successfully pulled out of the Rome Statute. The Statutes will no longer be part of our Constitution. That is exactly the plan…setting the stage for non-cooperation.
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Therefore when Bensouda asked Judges to consider these weighty developments of the ICC pull-out - some people did not anticipate how serious they were. Judges are starring at a duplicitous suspect who is sitting in court pretending to be cooperative (at this early stage of the trial) yet surreptitiously (with his boss) engineering an eventual national pull out from ICC - basically acknowledging guilt. It is only the guilty who are afraid and who always start planning contingencies ahead.

People can just pretend that nothing really happened at Kiambaa and other places because the tribal tin gods have said so, but judges are beginning to see the obvious nuances that have escaped many. I think this circus will suffer a surprising dent at the Hague. The witness intimidation on steroids is imploding right before our eyes. The ICC pull-out scheme is imploding too. The lesson here – when you kill, intimidate or buy/bribe ALL witnesses; you immediately raise more serious questions from the ICC. When you drag your entire nation out of an important international treaty - you alarm the international community and acknowledge your guilt.

Dr. Job

 

[Dr. Job]

I used to think that Khan (Rutos Lawyer) was smart. But yesterday he came out very stupid when he stood up claiming that Sudan and US were once members of the ICC but withdrew. The judge and the OTP had to remind him that the two countries have never been members of the ICC...:yell: The fact that the US has never been a member of the ICC is well known even to primary school children in Kenya. How Khan, a lawyer with the ICC and former prosecutor missed this is mind boggling.

He was even reminded that claiming that Kenya is co operating with the ICC then comparing it to Sudan was not helpful to his client. The man was all over the place today.

 

[Jammu Africa]

I used to think that Khan (Rutos Lawyer) was smart. But yesterday he came out very stupid when he stood up claiming that Sudan and US were once members of the ICC but withdrew. The judge and the OTP had to remind him that the two countries have never been members of the ICC...:yell: The fact that the US has never been a member of the ICC is well known even to primary school children in Kenya. How Khan, a lawyer with the ICC and former prosecutor missed this is mind boggling.

He was even reminded that claiming that Kenya is co operating with the ICC then comparing it to Sudan was not helpful to his client. The man was all over the place today.

"On May 6, 2002, the United States, in a position shared with Israel and Sudan, signed the Rome Statute but formally withdrew its intent of ratification.[SUP][/SUP]"

United States and the International Criminal Court - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So mr Khan,,Ruto's lawyer,,,,,knew what he was talking about.

 

[Jammu Africa]

The cheer-leaders in camp Uhuruto have probably not appreciated the gravity of the link between Kipleting Chemalan (URP County Rep) and his URP boss William Ruto. Judges will easily figure the link by the URP affiliation besides the duo's names. The link is not only political, but also connects the nexus to what the OTP called the "network" - and its horrendous unfolding right at the burnt Kiambaa Church. People keep asking where is the link between Ruto and the youth –when it stares them in the face.

If the ,,link,,is not made by the witnesses,,i do not know,,,how the judges will make any.

The work of the witnesses,,and that is why the court is using so much resources on them,,,,is
say what they know,,and saw.

Problem with some Kenyans,,is,,,imagination and that is,,,imagining and wishing
things to go,,their way.

We want to see..those witnesses who were privy,,to those meetings where plans
were made to kill other Kenyans,,we want to see receipts for purchases made,,like
for pangas, bows,guns and so forth,,,for this court to retain its standing as an
international court.

But what i see of this court,,,,,mmmmmm,,,i think even our Kibera court is
far and far ahead and sophisticated than this useless court,,which even failed
to hide the identity of it's,,,,,he he he he,,first witness and that is why,,today,,
the court has decided to go private for fear,,sijui,,what,,despite all the warning
that Nigerian judge,,,sijui called,,Uji what.

This is the first time,,,in my whole life,,,to see witnesses giving evidence,,
while hiding,,,,,very funny thing,,,and they expect truth to come out,,,in
that way?????

And talking of links,,,if this case was not political,,,,what we know is that
William Ruto was not a presidential candidate,,,there was no URP in 2007,
but Ruto was a member of the so called pentagon in ODM and it's head,,

Raila Amolo Odinga,,,,so Raila knows so much than that guy,,,,Chemoron.

But,,,people,,,,want to re-write the history of Kenya,,their own way,,
painting a very different picture of what and how Kenya was,,just some,,
only,,,,only six years ago.

 

[LeCroc]

I used to think that Khan (Rutos Lawyer) was smart. But yesterday he came out very stupid when he stood up claiming that Sudan and US were once members of the ICC but withdrew. The judge and the OTP had to remind him that the two countries have never been members of the ICC...:yell: The fact that the US has never been a member of the ICC is well known even to primary school children in Kenya. How Khan, a lawyer with the ICC and former prosecutor missed this is mind boggling.

He was even reminded that claiming that Kenya is co operating with the ICC then comparing it to Sudan was not helpful to his client. The man was all over the place today.

The prosecutor is working for them that is why she has to distort history like that..US were members of the ICC but withdrew because of the same reasons Kenya wants to withdraw. It is a historical first for ICC to try democratically elected president and his deputy, and hence, just trial and error as the ICC is currently wading on unfamiliar territory.there is nothing of the sort from the past that can even guide the current prosecutor to give her sentences.

This current achievement they say that it will increase the profile of the court on the continent. Or may it be a way the westerners are using to mock these leaders to show them that there independence means nothing and the westerners want to express their grip authoritatively using the ICC not forgetting there are many risks involved in the ICC trying these stunt without exhaustively reviewing the consequences of presenting an unworthy case.

First, it has never been a priority of the westerners to consider peace security and stability of any african nations in whatever deals they enter with africa. Any deals are sealed with blackmail, so fearful presidents may not reconsider or pursue other development options.

So go kenya! it is your time to show leadership to remain outstanding among donor dependent governments

This is proven by the Somalia that broke in 1993 and the Democratic republic of Congo. They have been very negative on Africa fast development agenda, which china has sought to gain economically.

For there to be any resolution on development peace and stability in african states, it can only be done, by a strong 'rebellious' leadership that can bypass the shenanigans of the neo-colonial establishments.

from the background of the witness who is highly protected..she seems to be a former PNU politician who has found a new platform of resolving election loss

Weak candidates from opposition all over africa not just in kenya, that fail to command any support for their election bid have sought such institutions as the ICC and local NGOs linked to the court to mount challenges against strong candidates. it further proofs why the ICC insists on concealing 'witnessess' siting witness protection. Those withdrawing from testifying are said to have been bribed or given parcel of lands and 7 seater minibuses by accused.

this is why the very weak oppositions everywhere are crying for ICC prevalence in Kenya, even when they have shown a lack of interests investigating the real perpetrators of the PEV.

The judges of the ICC have been quoted "they are not concerned about the legal-effect the withdrawal of witnesses have on the cases"

in his own words ruto lawyer karim khan states

the statements of the prosecutor are a distraction for people not to see their unworthy case


Khan also said, "Moreno Ocampo must take the blame for systemic failures that haunt the prosecutor's office today," adding that despite the fundamental and basic errors that were made in the investigation of the case, Ruto still want witnesses to come forward and testify as opposed to withdrawing
"Ruto does not want witnesses to withdraw. Those that come and speak the truth are heroes,"
- See more at: DP Ruto's lawyer Khan punches holes into prosecution's ICC case | The Star

 

[Ivonya-Ngia]

Wanapenda kulia eti Ukoloni mamboleo, mara sijui wazungu wanatuchukia...afu ukiangalia mawakili wao unashangaa!
Wote wazungu wa kwa malkia huko Uingereza. Sasa tujueje?...lol

Ab-Titchaz
The lawyer appearing in these pictures is Mr. Karim Ahmad Khan, he's not "the mzungu", he's the british lawyer of arab descent.

 

[Mtu wa Mungu]

Ab-Titchaz
The lawyer appearing in these pictures is Mr. Karim Ahmad Khan, he's not "the mzungu", he's the british lawyer of arab descent.

By appearance the lawyer Khan looks to be a wise lawyer but in action before the ICC Court he sounds barbaric and out of justice balance because he calls all witnesses to be liers. How sure is he sure his legal tactics are not interpreted by the ICC judges as being hostile and out of legal wisdom to the extent of being a threat to justice not only of his client but also to the ICC Court. He seems to use lies and threats to argue his points. Consequently he is untrustworthy lawyer in this case.

 

[toxic]

cha kujifunza kipo kuwa viongozi wa nchi za kiafrika na nchi masikini ndiyo wanashtakiwa ila viongozi wa nchi kubwa hawashikiwi. je huo ndiyo usimamiaji wa haki?

Kama viongozi wapi hao ambao hawashtakiwi?

 

[Askari Kanzu]

...So go kenya! it is your time to show leadership to remain outstanding among donor dependent governments...

Kenya bado ni nchi masikini, tena kuna jamaa kibao bado wanaishi kwenye zama za jiwe (Stone Age) huko Turkana. Hii ilithibitishwa hapa juzi juzi kwenye makala moja inayohusu kugundulika kwa maji pande za huko!

 

[Ivonya-Ngia]

By appearance the lawyer Khan looks to be a wise lawyer but in action before the ICC Court he sounds barbaric and out of justice balance because he calls all witnesses to be liers. How sure is he sure his legal tactics are not interpreted by the ICC judges as being hostile and out of legal wisdom to the extent of being a threat to justice not only of his client but also to the ICC Court. He seems to use lies and threats to argue his points. Consequently he is untrustworthy lawyer in this case.

Yeah Mtu wa Mungu

But that's how lawyers act in courts,,,,some might seem malignant and offensive,,,,,but he's not a lone side in the chamber. Still there are prosecutors and judges, if he crosses the lines they'll intervene.

He's an experienced lawyer in international criminal justice and human rights, I think he's still within his professional tactics. Let's just wait and see how far he goes.

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

Ab-Titchaz
The lawyer appearing in these pictures is Mr. Karim Ahmad Khan, he's not "the mzungu", he's the british lawyer of arab descent.

If he is a British lawyer then the sums it up...he remains a Brit and not an Arab.

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

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