World Bank values Dar’s real estate Sh273bn more than Nairobi

World Bank values Dar’s real estate Sh273bn more than Nairobi

Kafrican said:
But the guy he source the info from was releasing a WB report, so there is no need ask for his contacts specifically, first I just need the original WB report, it must have details,explanations....
Anyway, I thing when they are releasing a report, usually they anounce it at a conference by word of mouth with some point form presentation before they post it officially on their website, lets hope that is the case. It usually doesn't take more than 5 working days
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Le me check with the guy, then will let you know asap.
 
Kafrican said:
over 30% of all new high rise real estate in Africa are bieng built in nairobi. just think about that, 30% share in 54 countries.....
Nairobi is also slated to atain 1st world status by 2020, no other city in the region will be ataining that anytime soon
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Only with deteriorated mindset will understand you

Kibera alone consumes 75% of Nairobi population takes more than 2.6 million residents out of 3 million Nairobi residents.
 
REDEEMER. said:
Only with deteriorated mindset will understand you

Kibera alone consumes 75% of Nairobi population takes more than 2.6 million residents out of 3 million Nairobi residents.
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That is false, only fools will believe that,
 
REDEEMER. said:
Only with deteriorated mindset will understand you

Kibera alone consumes 75% of Nairobi population takes more than 2.6 million residents out of 3 million Nairobi residents.
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What you're potraying is hardly different from when the west claims Aliens built the pyramids. You choose to believe a certain blanket statement, despite numerous facts pointing to the contrary, just because you've a bone to pick with Kenya(ns). You should know better.

I've read somewhere that 90% of Dar is a slum, but I don't believe it due to various facts pointing otherwise. Yah, I mean it's a lil more disorganized with very little in the name of zoning but to claim that this city I saw is 90% slum same as to claim that a very tiny portion of Nairobi hold 2.6m people as per some western NGOs ni upuzi wazungu wataka tuamini.
 
Livale said:
What you're potraying is hardly different from when the west claims Aliens built the pyramids. You choose to believe a certain blanket statement, despite numerous facts pointing to the contrary, just because you've a bone to pick with Kenya(ns). You should know better.

I've read somewhere that 90% of Dar is a slum, but I don't believe it due to various facts pointing otherwise. Yah, I mean it's a lil more disorganized with very little in the name of zoning but to claim that this city I saw is 90% slum same as to claim that a very tiny portion of Nairobi hold 2.6m people as per some western NGOs ni upuzi wazungu wataka tuamini.
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Where did you read?
 
What does "Urban building-stoke" mean? i saw it somewhere , someone explain to me like am std 1 kid
 
tuusan said:
Me sijaona point yoyote ya maana apo..aliendika iyo page ni bogus tu kwanza moshi ni sehemu ya Dar? Kariakoo ni slum? Upuuzi mtupu
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This issue of NGO's and this colonialists should stop using plight of people in Africa to enrich themselves. Using Slums to discredit Africa! Taking worst of images and posting them on international forum. This trend is bad. Even if we have Slums, there are slums all over and we are trying to improve them.

I followed the IP registered with this Slum tours in Dar es Salaam Tanzania and i realize it is in USA!!!! America hawa ni Osama kiasi alisaidia!!!! Wanaharibu dunia kabisa!!

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On another note, when many countries are trying to improve slums, is it true that Tanzania's slums are growing at alarming rate of 6%???
 
Wajinga sana wanaandika vitu vya kitoto kabisa sijui wanamzuga nani
 
Kafrican said:
I have been trying to look for the original article with the data from WB but can't or don't seem to find it..... If anyone has a link please share ..
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Here you go Kafrican, https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/bitstream/handle/10986/25896/211044ov.pdf

I found it odd that so many guys have missed your analogy on occupation and replacement value. (Don't worry this is is part of a global problem that actually got Trump into office and will keep him there for 2 terms. A majority of the world's population loves screaming headlines and wont read beyond the first paragraph. Call it the "Twitter effect".)

As the article says, YES, DAR ES SALAAM has a higher real estate value than NAIROBI. But first this wasn't a ranking, 2nd it is explained in the lower paragraphs that private investment in real estate (Which nairobi has more of) is desired over government investment (TZ government entities are involved in most of the projects) therefore making Nairobi more attractive than Dar es Salaam.

This by the way is a reporters perspective of the world bank report, who has actually partly failed by making it a Nairobi - Dar affair which from the report it is not. Read the report further and come up with your own perspective, prompt even better arguments on what we may need to do to to make the situation better. Otherwise we are all just trolls on the internet.

Sadly what we have here is basically a shouting match between two very uninformed camps.
 
Muria said:
Here you go Kafrican, https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/bitstream/handle/10986/25896/211044ov.pdf

I found it odd that so many guys have missed your analogy on occupation and replacement value. (Don't worry this is is part of a global problem that actually got Trump into office and will keep him there for 2 terms. A majority of the world's population loves screaming headlines and wont read beyond the first paragraph. Call it the "Twitter effect".)

As the article says, YES, DAR ES SALAAM has a higher real estate value than NAIROBI. But first this wasn't a ranking, 2nd it is explained in the lower paragraphs that private investment in real estate (Which nairobi has more of) is desired over government investment (TZ government entities are involved in most of the projects) therefore making Nairobi more attractive than Dar es Salaam.

This by the way is a reporters perspective of the world bank report, who has actually partly failed by making it a Nairobi - Dar affair which from the report it is not. Read the report further and come up with your own perspective, prompt even better arguments on what we may need to do to to make the situation better. Otherwise we are all just trolls on the internet.

Sadly what we have here is basically a shouting match between two very uninformed camps.
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Correction, I think its NairobiWalker who explained the occupation and replacement value, I just provided the outlook of Nairobi real estate especially high rise building including residential buildings... Only after reading the report, especially on that part can people start having a real discussion..... Anyway, proof reading the report right now, it makes feel so stupid as Africans, Am like what are we waiting forrr!!!!! The report covers alot of things, why cant we ourselves be releasing such reports after carefull study, it gives you an insight of what neeeds to happen, For e.g. they say if we formalise Kibera into apartment building, we could add in excess of $1Billion to the economy of Nairobi...Just like that!
 
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The then called sleeping giant leads the roster of the property investment in the region. It's good move considering that it was just 1997 when the sector started to take shape after repealing of two stumbling stones pieces of legislation; i.e the Building Acquisition Act of 1973 and Rent Restriction Act of 1984.
Bravo Tanzania
 
eliakeem said:
orina
The then called sleeping giant leads the roster of the property investment in the region. It's good move considering that it was just 1997 when the sector started to take shape after repealing of two stumbling stones pieces of legislation; i.e the Building Acquisition Act of 1973 and Rent Restriction Act of 1984.
Bravo Tanzania
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Not investment but by value
 
The world bank has spoken, Dar Dar’s real estate value more than Nairobi, there are different strategies to maximize real estate in a certain countries, one can depend on more foreign investors and other countries can depend on itself to build and sell and that is what Tanzania is doing.
 
Wo shi niubi said:
The world bank has spoken, Dar Dar’s real estate value more than Nairobi, there are different strategies to maximize real estate in a certain countries, one can depend on more foreign investors and other countries can depend on itself to build and sell and that is what Tanzania is doing.
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Most of the new high rising buildings in Dar are govt owned and operated buildings ... That is not depending on yourself, its just a phase for beginners when government owned parastatals reach a certain level of growth, Kenya already did that first phase in the 70s, with the likes of teleposter towers, Times tower, kicc, nyati house towers, Harambee house,Nssf



Although there are still a few new towers in Kenya bieng built or proposed by govt owned parastatals or campanies in Kenya, majority of new high rise buildings are led by the private sector(foreign or local) this signals a maturing economy where the rivate sector is slowly becoming the biggest investor, the biggest employers..... You have towers like UAP(insuarance), KCB towers(banking), Britam towers(insuarance),

Anyway, currently Tz with a smaller economy is ahead of Kenya in FDI so if its depending on foreign investors, Tz certainly leads in EA
 
Kafrican said:
Most of the new high rising buildings in Dar are govt owned and operated buildings ... That is not depending on yourself, its just a phase for beginners when government owned parastatals reach a certain level of growth, Kenya already did that first phase in the 70s, with the likes of teleposter towers, Times tower, kicc, nyati house towers, Harambee house,Nssf


Although there are still a few new towers in Kenya bieng built or proposed by govt owned parastatals or campanies in Kenya, majority of new high rise buildings are led by the private sector(foreign or local) this signals a maturing economy where the rivate sector is slowly becoming the biggest investor, the biggest employers..... You have towers like UAP(insuarance), KCB towers(banking), Britam towers(insuarance),

Anyway, currently Tz with a smaller economy is ahead of Kenya in FDI so if its depending on foreign investors, Tz certainly leads in EA
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Its not phase one for beginners ,its decision by the state to go with two ways, private sector and state owning buildings, u can not just depend on one investor to all African countries, and investors have the tendency of choosing which country to invest suitable to make money, so u cant just wait for investors to come, and some times can delay , so the decision of government to build/own some buildings some how is ok while doing some efforts to create environments for investors to come, is economy is just planning and see the outcome, if the government has chosen the way and at the end sells the buildings or rents to businessmen is fine for that, that is economy too.
 
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