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Yesu si Mungu, Paulo ana kesi ya kujibu
Yesu si Mungu, Paulo ana kesi ya kujibu
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mgen
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Nimekwambia ayat inasema wale wasemao sisi no Wakristo..
Kwani jinsi .mlivyo kama kakosea tafsir mngemtia bakora za makalio..ushauri wangu kwako kafute hiyo aya kama una ubavu kisha uje humu kuleta uzwazwa...la huwezi jidunge ndoba usepe...
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Upumbavu wenu mnaamini Mungu wenu anajua lugha moja tuu(kiarabu)poa ngoj nikupe
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Wacha kuchezea Biblia. Kasome hiyo John mstari wote.
Swali langu bado linasimama na kudai majibu. Nani amewahi kumwona Allah?
Jibu swali acha kujificha kwenye Bible usiyoijua.
John 6:46
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
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Yaani huu uzi labda umekuwa kijiwe tu cha kupigia story,ila conclusion ni kwamba yesu si mungu,
watetezi wa msimamo wa yesu ni mungu wameshindwa kuja na sababu za kuridhisha za kutufanya tukubaliane kuwa yesu ni mungu,
ukweli ni kuwa hakuwa mungu na hata yeye hajawahi kutamka kuwa ni mungu kwa kinywa chake,
watunzi wa biblia ndo walijaribu kumpa uungu yesu japo hata wao maandishi yao yanawasuta
watetezi wa msimamo wa yesu ni mungu wameshindwa kuja na sababu za kuridhisha za kutufanya tukubaliane kuwa yesu ni mungu,
ukweli ni kuwa hakuwa mungu na hata yeye hajawahi kutamka kuwa ni mungu kwa kinywa chake,
watunzi wa biblia ndo walijaribu kumpa uungu yesu japo hata wao maandishi yao yanawasuta
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asante sana
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Mimi ninakuuliza katika lugha ya kiarabu Kristo ina maana gani ??? na mkristo ina maana gani ???
haya niletee ngonjera za kanisani ???
mgen
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nyie marainaa mnachekesha kweli [emoji15] mnaabudu kiumbe anae Apia kwa [emoji117] aliyeumba dhakar na Ku&%$# (waa mahaqa dhakar al unnsa) afu mnamuita Mungu na kumsujudia hadi usoni kovu kama kifuu [emoji13]
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Nyinyi werevu wenye akili nyingi tutoeni sisi wapumbavu huo upumbavu wetu kwa kutuonyesha
Hapo kwenye hiyo sura wametajwa wakristo kwenye neno lipi ???
mgen
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Toka lini wewe Mungu kakuajiri uwe msemaji wake [emoji47] [emoji4]
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mgen
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wewe pofu utaonaje [emoji47] tuwekee aya basi Yesu anasema yeye sio Mungu [emoji4]
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The Bible says that God is greater than Jesus
‘My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28)
‘My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29)
Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him. The Christian belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to the clear words from Jesus.
Jesus never instructed his disciples to worship him
‘When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2)
‘In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever you ask of the Father in my name.’ (John 16:23)
‘The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him.’ (John 4:23)
If Jesus was God, he would have sought worship for himself
Since he didn’t, instead he sought worship for God in the heavens, therefore, he was not God.
Jesus worshipped the only true God
‘that they might know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.’ (John 17:3)
‘he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12)
‘Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28)
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Disciples did not believe Jesus was God
The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of thirty years after Jesus was raised to heaven. Throughout this period, they never referred to Jesus as God. For instance Peter stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed a crowd saying:
‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)
For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God (confirmed in Matthew 12:18)
‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13)
‘God raised up his servant’ (Acts 3:26)
mgen
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Mbona huhoji Jn 1:1-3[emoji47] [emoji4]
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Afu wee ni bjiii kweli Yesu anaamini anaye Baba [emoji15] wee unaamini hivyo kama Yesu [emoji351] [emoji4]
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The Lost City
The Gospels tell us that Jesus's home town was the 'City of Nazareth' ('polis Natzoree'):
And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a CITY of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.
(Luke1.26,27)
And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the CITY of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; because he was of the house and lineage of David:
(Luke 2.3,4)
But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee: And he came and dwelt in a CITY called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
(Matthew 2.22,23)
And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own CITY Nazareth. And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
(Luke 2.39,40)
The gospels do not tell us much about this 'city' – it has a synagogue, it can scare up a hostile crowd (prompting JC's famous "prophet rejected in his own land" quote), and it has a precipice – but the city status of Nazareth is clearly established, at least according to that source of nonsense called the Bible.
However when we look for historical confirmation of this hometown of a god – surprise, surprise! – no other source confirms that the place even existed in the 1st century AD.
• Nazareth is not mentioned even once in the entire Old Testament. The Book of Joshua (19.10,16) – in what it claims is the process of settlement by the tribe of Zebulon in the area – records twelve towns and six villages and yet omits any 'Nazareth' from its list.
• The Talmud, although it names 63 Galilean towns, knows nothing of Nazareth, nor does early rabbinic literature.
• St Paul knows nothing of 'Nazareth'. Rabbi Solly's epistles (real and fake) mention Jesus 221 times, Nazareth not at all.
• No ancient historian or geographer mentions Nazareth. It is first noted at the beginning of the 4th century.
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Gavana,nimetuma aya za Quran tukuf kwa kiswahili, umezikaa,nimetuk matik andish ya Quran kuhusu aya hiy hiy umekataa,umetak kiarab nimetum unanatak bado nikuonyesh(KUMBE HIYO KIARABU ULICHOKUWA UNALAZIMISHA NACHO HUJUI))Mpelekee sheikh yeyot uliye na imani nae akusomee them akup tafsiri,kam hutasikia neno"Wakristo"nitatoa lak 1!!..
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