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DAR NA SUPPORT YAO KWA MAGAIDI WA FDLR


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The central issue today is that troop contributors Tanzania and South Africa are showing no willingness to militarily dismantle the FDLR rebel group. PHOTO | TEA GRAPHIC
By Sasha Lezhnev and John Prendergast

Posted Saturday, December 27 2014 at 12:37

IN SUMMARY


  • While the FDLR offered to disarm in May 2014, behind the scenes it is doing the opposite. Six months of Enough Project field research uncovered that the rebels are regrouping, trading gold and charcoal for weapons, and mobilising political support.
  • Tanzania and South Africa, the countries that would be the largest members of the integration force, continue to make excuses for the FDLR.
  • Tanzania lists the FDLR as a freedom fighting organisation on its government website, and senior South African envoys have lobbied in negotiations for delays in counter-FDLR operations.


The clock is ticking on a deadline that will help determine the prospects for future peace and stability in the violence-wracked Democratic Republic of Congo.

Two years ago, the world embarked on a major experiment in peacekeeping, sending a robustly mandated force to do the tough parts of peace enforcement alongside more traditional United Nations blue helmets. The scene of the test was the world's deadliest conflict since World War II, in Congo, where Rwandan-backed rebels had taken over significant swathes of Congolese territory and threatened to destabilise the entire country.

For over a decade, UN peacekeepers had been present in Congo, but to little effect. They had failed to prevent numerous massacres of civilians. And in November 2012, one of eastern Congo's largest cities, Goma, fell to rebels known as the M23 despite the presence of 19,000 UN troops in the region.

Thanks to a public campaign against the M23 and leadership by the US and UN, the UN Security Council authorised an Intervention Brigade staffed by South African, Tanzanian, and Malawian soldiers. The force was mandated to "neutralise armed groups… in a robust, highly mobile, and versatile manner."

It had initial successes, ably reinforcing the Congolese army's push against the M23 with air support and sophisticated weaponry, albeit with casualties. Thanks in part to these military victories, the M23 officially disarmed in December 2013.

One year later, the initiative has reversed course. The central issue today is that troop contributors Tanzania and South Africa are showing no willingness to militarily dismantle the FDLR rebel group. The FDLR has been one of the most significant threats to civilians in eastern Congo over the past 20 years, and its presence has served as a justification for Rwandan interventions in Congo.

It is led by commanders who are reported to have perpetrated Rwanda's 1994 genocide and is on the US list of terrorist organisations. The FDLR has committed numerous massacres in eastern Congo. For example, in Shabunda in 2012, FDLR combatants allegedly massacred 45 civilians, decapitated the village chief, and cut a baby from a pregnant woman.

While the FDLR offered to disarm in May 2014, behind the scenes it is doing the opposite. Six months of Enough Project field research uncovered that the rebels are regrouping, trading gold and charcoal for weapons, and mobilising political support.

Georges, a Congolese community leader, told our team, "Their demobilisation offer is only going to help them buy time as usual." Congolese civil society coalitions have written letters to the UN asking it to launch military strikes against the FDLR.

On January 2, the FDLR faces an ultimatum from the UN to disarm or face military action, and the international community has agreed on benchmarks for the disarmament.

However, Tanzania and South Africa, the countries that would be the largest members of that force, continue to make excuses for the FDLR. Tanzania lists the FDLR as a freedom fighting organisation on its government website, and senior South African envoys have lobbied in negotiations for delays in counter-FDLR operations.

Three changes can get the process back on track. First, Tanzania and South Africa must commit to conducting operations against the FDLR if the benchmarks are not met by the deadline. They are helping allow a rebellion to reorganise that includes alleged genocidaires, that has used rape systematically as a weapon of war, and that Congolese civil society says continues to threaten it.

The peacekeepers are under the command of the UN, so operational decisions should not be made in the capitals of troop contributing countries.

Second, the UN should rotate troops out of the Congo operation that are not making useful contributions and rotate in more capable militaries, in co-ordination with the Congolese government. This would be a much more efficient use of taxpayer money. Angola, for example, has one of the region's most capable armies and could be encouraged to take on a larger regional peacekeeping role.

Third, the US should deploy Special Forces advisors to the Intervention Brigade in a pared-down version of the successful counter-Lord's Resistance Army mission. That mission, with African forces in the lead and advised by US military advisors on intelligence and defection strategies, has helped reduce LRA attacks by 92 per cent in three years.



SA na economic interests hawataki vita dhidi ya FDLR na JK naye ni bootlicking ya kawaida ya SA na getting back thru proxy war kwa rafiki wake Kagame. huku Kagame akiwa upande wa M23 naye JK na Jeshi lake la Fdlr.
 
bwana cup size brains, nimekwambia zipo hapa kukopa uji.nga toka kwako. no need to answer you.huwezi ukayaelewa haya!!!!
You had to change the heading though, that tells you something!! tehe teh...
 
Are you aware headings can only be changed by mods.
Wether it's the mods, Uhuruto, Kagame, Museveni or freaking Machar .... I don't give a flying f**k, the heading and the thesis didn't match and I called you out on that.
I got what I wanted, leaving you looking stupid .
 
Are you aware headings can only be changed by mods.

Ho la la, msalie mtume... Kumbe nyie mpo hapa kuwaelimisha wachovu bila ada? Kwa nini? Hao wajinga under the control of msanii mkuu, muwaache wajiaibishe... Juzi nilikuwa bongo kwa mda wa karibu wiki mbili, wenye akili zao wanawaangalia tu, na wameniambia siku kikinuka wao ndio watamfwata wenyewe magogoni na wajinga wenzake kina jMali bila shaka tutarudi nao Kigali ingawa hawataki, ila nisiandikie mate wakati wino upo... UN ambayo imekuwa ikiwapa mlo kutwa mara tatu ishasema tarehe 2 mwakani ndio mwisho wa utapeli na lazima kieleweke na kama mzee wa busha na yule poligamy mwenzake watakuwa wameendelea kutia vijiti masikioni basi itabidi tucheze nao, hivi hawashangai kwa nini Angola haiko upande wao ingawa wapo pamoja SADC? Yule mzee Santos dance za kinyaru anazijua na kesha amuwa kuwa upande wa winning team, kazi kwao mafala wasiojuwa halama za nyakati ambazo...
 
You had to change the heading though, that tells you something!! tehe teh...

TOLD YOU HAD A CUP SIZE BRAINS.MOD changes headings na ata Waoo ni bure kabisa kwa sababu wanaegmeea upande mmoja na kuvamia post za wakenya!!!
 
TOLD YOU HAD A CUP SIZE BRAINS.MOD changes headings na ata Waoo ni bure kabisa kwa sababu wanaegmeea upande mmoja na kuvamia post za wakenya!!!
Mayn!! ... you are so smart!, you know who change headings in JamiiForums. That's an accomplishment you know? WOOW!!
 
mchambawima jinsi ninavyokuonaga na maandishi yako hapa tofauti kabisa!

mjomba kumlazi kabisa! lakini ukweli ndio huo, tumekuwa waungwana mno lakini haijasaidia kitu ilifika kipindi nikasema basi wacha niende Bongo nikakutane na ndugu na marafiki tuliokulia pamoja ili nijuwe msimamo wao, cha kushangaza nimekuta msanii mkuu na wahujumu wenzake wako peke yao, tena unisamehe sana ndugu yangu ila mambo yalipofikia tumebakiza siku 5 FDLR ambao ni washirikina wa msanii wawe wametoweka iwe kimapenzi au kwa nguvu, jamaa washenzi kweli wanataka kutuharibia mikakati yetu ambayo kwa vyovyote vile itawanuaisha hata waafrika wengine, wazungu kuona hivyo wameamuwa kutumia mumiani na watu wasio na msimamo, sasa mjomba unategemea nifanyeje?
 
You had to change the heading though, that tells you something!! tehe teh...
DAR NA SUPPORT YAO KWA MAGAIDI WA FDLR


fdlr.jpg
The central issue today is that troop contributors Tanzania and South Africa are showing no willingness to militarily dismantle the FDLR rebel group. PHOTO | TEA GRAPHIC
By Sasha Lezhnev and John Prendergast

Posted Saturday, December 27 2014 at 12:37

IN SUMMARY



  • While the FDLR offered to disarm in May 2014, behind the scenes it is doing the opposite. Six months of Enough Project field research uncovered that the rebels are regrouping, trading gold and charcoal for weapons, and mobilising political support.
  • Tanzania and South Africa, the countries that would be the largest members of the integration force, continue to make excuses for the FDLR.
  • Tanzania lists the FDLR as a freedom fighting organisation on its government website, and senior South African envoys have lobbied in negotiations for delays in counter-FDLR operations.
 
Are you aware headings can only be changed by mods.

the dance

DAR NA SUPPORT YAO KWA MAGAIDI WA FDLR


fdlr.jpg
The central issue today is that troop contributors Tanzania and South Africa are showing no willingness to militarily dismantle the FDLR rebel group. PHOTO | TEA GRAPHIC
By Sasha Lezhnev and John Prendergast

Posted Saturday, December 27 2014 at 12:37

IN SUMMARY




  • While the FDLR offered to disarm in May 2014, behind the scenes it is doing the opposite. Six months of Enough Project field research uncovered that the rebels are regrouping, trading gold and charcoal for weapons, and mobilising political support.
  • Tanzania and South Africa, the countries that would be the largest members of the integration force, continue to make excuses for the FDLR.
  • Tanzania lists the FDLR as a freedom fighting organisation on its government website, and senior South African envoys have lobbied in negotiations for delays in counter-FDLR operations.
 
Mkuu, hajui lolote huyo lawmaina78 Anamsifia museven wakati ni kijana wetu, kapata maujanja yote hapa TZ na hawezi kupigana wala kutoa maneno ya kashifa kwa TZ kama kanavyoongea hako ka paka shume ka rwanda.

Hivi mbona unajijibu kwenye comments zako, umepagawa na viroba vya uswazi nini?
 
lawmaina78 said:
DRC ni member wa SADC lakini amewahifadhi magaidi wanaochokonoa member wa EAC, na SADC wameshindwa kuwathibiti. Hivyo ni kichapo bila kuongea na SADC. Na yeyote wa SADC asithubutu kuingilia la sivyo itakua vita vya Afrika yote. Ngoma ianze sasa, January tarehe mbili (2) ndio mwisho.

..kwa uelewa wangu hiyo deadline ya Jan 2 ilitolewa na kikao cha ICGLR + SADC. Rwanda walihudhuria kikao hicho, sasa kama hawakubaliani na hiyo deadline maana yake ni kwamba walishindwa kuzishawishi nchi nyingine zikubaliane na msimamo wao.

..pia kabla ya hii option ya kupeleka kikosi cha SADC-UN tayari zilishafanyika operation nyingine kama 3 hivi dhidi ya FDLR ndani ya Congo zilizohusisha majeshi ya Rwanda. I am open to be corrected on this one.

..operation ya kuwapiga FDLR inatakiwa kuhusisha majeshi ya DRC. sasa kuna mgogoro wa chini kwa chini unaendelea ambapo DRC inadai kwanini M23 walioko Rwanda na Uganda hawajawa-disarmed mpaka leo hii.

..Uganda iliwahi kuhukumiwa na mahakama ya kimataifa ya The Hague kuilipa DRC about $20 kutokana na uvamizi wake miaka ya mwisho ya 90. sasa sidhani kama Uganda wako tayari kuingia tena DRC bila ruhusa ya wenye nchi.

..Rwanda haina ushawishi tena kwamba wanaweza kuchangia ktk kurejeshwa kwa amani ndani ya DRC. Kwa msingi huo sioni uwezekano wa wao kuingia kijeshi DRC ktk mazingira ambapo haina ushawishi ktk jumuiya ya kimataifa kama ilivyo sasa hivi.

..Mwisho, wa-Congomani wamechoshwa na nchi yao kutumiwa kama uwanja wa vita vya wenyewe kwa wenyewe vya Rwanda. Wa-Congomani ndiyo waliokuwa wa kwanza kupendekeza mgogoro kati ya Rwanda na FDLR umalizwe kwa njia ya mazungumzo. Hoja yao ni hii: kama vita ya miaka 20 imeshindwa kuwamaliza FDLR, kwanini mazungumzo ya amani yasifanyike? Wanajenga hoja kwa kuzingatia mifano ya Mozambique, Angola, na kwingineko.

NB:

..Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Burundi na Rwanda, zote zinawakilishwa ktk kikao cha ICGLR-SADC.

cc jMali, waltham, msemakweli
 
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DRC ni member wa SADC lakini amewahifadhi magaidi wanaochokonoa member wa EAC, na SADC wameshindwa kuwathibiti. Hivyo ni kichapo bila kuongea na SADC. Na yeyote wa SADC asithubutu kuingilia la sivyo itakua vita vya Afrika yote. Ngoma ianze sasa, January tarehe mbili (2) ndio mwisho.

Hivi position ya kenya kwenye hii issue ipoje maana hamjielewi ata?

Ninyi mnapelekwa pelekwa tu kama upepo na M7 na Kagame...

I meant, wenzenu WANAJAMBA ninyi mnapiga Makofi tuuuu.....hovyo kabisa nyie...
 
Hawa marais wote akiwemo huyo Zuma wamemkuta Mu7 uongozini, yeye ni mkongwe wa mambo haya na ndio tegemeo letu ukanda huu wote. Yeye ndiye kiboko dhidi ya hiyo SADC. January FDLR waweke chini silaha na wahamie nchi za SADC labda Bongo, otherwise watakipata.

*****....umejamba ww....toa ushuzi hapa.....

What? Ati M7 ni kiboko ya SADC? Hapa ndipo nashindwaga kuwaamini Wakenya kwa ulaghai na utapeli wa maneno na vitu. Zaid zaid sana Madem wao nawa f...ck na kusepa maana kwnz wana sura mbaya km ya Rais wao wa zamani Kibaki....vinginevyo don't trust them...

Hakika nakuambia ww boya, pakinuka kati ya SADC na EASF yaani tunachukua nchi zenu zote nq kuwaoa mabibi zenu maana huo mtifuano sio wa kawaida. ....usiombe na Mungu aepushie mbali maana wakwanza kulia na kujutia ni KENYA..sababu kamuulize bibi yako....
 
Hivi position ya kenya kwenye hii issue ipoje maana hamjielewi ata?

Ninyi mnapelekwa pelekwa tu kama upepo na M7 na Kagame...

I meant, wenzenu WANAJAMBA ninyi mnapiga Makofi tuuuu.....hovyo kabisa nyie...

Position ya Kenya ipo inafuata upepo wa EAC, guza mmoja wetu umeguza wote.
 
*****....umejamba ww....toa ushuzi hapa.....

What? Ati M7 ni kiboko ya SADC? Hapa ndipo nashindwaga kuwaamini Wakenya kwa ulaghai na utapeli wa maneno na vitu. Zaid zaid sana Madem wao nawa f...ck na kusepa maana kwnz wana sura mbaya km ya Rais wao wa zamani Kibaki....vinginevyo don't trust them...

Hakika nakuambia ww boya, pakinuka kati ya SADC na EASF yaani tunachukua nchi zenu zote nq kuwaoa mabibi zenu maana huo mtifuano sio wa kawaida. ....usiombe na Mungu aepushie mbali maana wakwanza kulia na kujutia ni KENYA..sababu kamuulize bibi yako....

Tehehehe!! haya basi kieleweke, SADC vs EAC, tuzipige walahi. Na kama tatizo lako ni mademu tu, basi fahamu mademu Wakenya wagomvi na hutowaweza wewe.
 
Nina wasiwasi watu wengi hawafahamu historia ya mgogoro wa congo DRC,hivyo mjadala unatawaliwa na kasumba tu.All people can read the same source of information but they can understand it in different ways depending on what pre existing knowledge they have regarding the particular information.
Katika sayansi kuna; observation-hypothesis-experimentaion na conclusion.If your observation/hypothesis is wrong then there is high probability that you will arrive at wrong conclusion.Most of people come my realization that they have wrong observation and hypothesis.
Wengi wana sifa ya kuitwa WASOMI lakini WAELIMIKA ni wachache sana.
 
Nina wasiwasi watu wengi hawafahamu historia ya mgogoro wa congo DRC,hivyo mjadala unatawaliwa na kasumba tu.All people can read the same source of information but they can understand it in different ways depending on what pre existing knowledge they have regarding the particular information.
Katika sayansi kuna; observation-hypothesis-experimentaion na conclusion.If your observation/hypothesis is wrong then there is high probability that you will arrive at wrong conclusion.Most of people come my realization that they have wrong observation and hypothesis.
Wengi wana sifa ya kuitwa WASOMI lakini WAELIMIKA ni wachache sana.

Sijui unaegemea upande upi, lakini nimependa ulivyowasilisha, an intellect at the best.
 
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