And They called His Name Sananda

[mwananthropolojia]

Kwani chance sio law? What is chance anyway but an illusion due to the poverty of our minds.Ushapewa hesabu ya sequence and series utafute pattern ukawa huoni pattern? only to find out that the change coefficient has a changes coefficients change coefficients buried inside like some russian dolls? How do you know this is chance and this is design?

chance is the absence of any cause of events that can be predicted, understood, or controlled: often personified or treated as a positive agency and design is the opposite




How do you know we were made?

because everything is made whether by environment ,man,animal etc actions





How do you know that we were made to foillow rules and we did not evolve to survive with the existing rules?

i know that because we always do it whether we like it or not and if you don't you suffer the consequences e.g eating,try not to eat and see if the natural laws wont force you to look for food





How do you know that given billions of years and a self correcting mechanism, chance cannot make order?

it wont even if its given trillions of years as a chance never repeats itself over and over and over again in the same sequence as it has no patterns





How many times is not many times? And does that "not many" times remain "not many times given an infinite time?

what is infinite time?if you give me that then i can know how many times is not many times





What is purpose? What do you mean by purpose? What is life's purpose?

life's purpose is what everyone is trying to find out and everyone has a definition to it as others think its to accumulate wealth,others think is preparation for going to heaven,others think its all about surviving while others give up on the quest to find its purpose




Who or what is god? What do you mean by god?

God is who created the universe





If there is a god that does not control everything, is that god the God? What do you mean by god? How do you know god exists?

why should God control everything while s/he can make living things which can survive and watch after themselves automatically by using the natural laws devised?





From outside of where? Isn't god supposed to be everywhere? If yes how can he control "from outside"? If no, how can this god be the God if he is not everywhere?

thats why i said God is not a puppeteer to control every action you do or else we wont be living things ,we would be machines like cars which has to be driven and controlled ,we havre choices but ltd





Outer of what?

out of the puppet or us





How do you know that?

through the natural laws





How do you know that? Why does he do that? Is he subject to natural laws? Is he controlling the world through natural laws because he must do so or because he likes to do so?

that is not a question for me to know what God likes, and he is not subjected to the natural laws or else he would be the same like us restricted by nature




If I want to fly like the bird with no effort, and god has imposed gravity on me, am I free to do as I wish? If I am "free to do as I do" and not "as I wish" am I free at all?
If I give my daughter the freedom to choose between the red dress and the red dress, can I say I gave her the freedom top choose colors?

we are free but not totally free as we have to abide by the natural laws although its human nature to try and break away from the natural laws and maybe, oneday we will succeed but for now you have only multiple choices given to you by God either a,b,c or d


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What is truth? How do you measure truth? What is the unit of measuring truth?

the truth is wisdom,true knowledge


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Ukweli wa kwanza ulioshindwa kuuchambua ni huu wa kuanza kujibu maswali makubwa yasiyo na majibu kwa kutumia traditional cliches sijui chance haiwezi kutengeneza order etc. Ushasoma Chaos Theory?

is it the only theory?niambie wewe chaos theory ni nini





Anthropologist mna repulation ya kwenda sehemu kuchimba halafu mkakuta kijino cha mtu, mkataka kuwaambia watu huyu mtu alikula chakula gani, mpaka caloric intake yake ya siku ilikuwaje, aliishi kwenye nyumba ya aina gani na nyumba ilikuwa ina watoto wangapi, na alikuwa anaetembea umbali gani kwa siku, kwa kuangalia kijino tu. Ushaisikia tuhuma hii?

sio tuhuma we can prove it not by looking but by scientific investigation mtu anayekula mboga meno yake yanakua tofauti na anayekula nyama,calories zinapimwa kwa kuangalia kiasi gani meno yalivyotumika,vilevile hata madin yanayopatikana kwenye meno ni ya aina gani,hiyo ya kusema alitembea umbali gani au nyumba na watoto wangapi huwez kupima kwenye meno nadhani unaanza kutunga hadithi sasa





Mie sijasoma bado, ndo najifunza kusoma sasa hivi.

ni vizuri basi socrates wetu wa tz

 

[Kiranga]

Sijui, ninaamini.

Mwanaanthropolojia kumbe ndo Anheuser? Mara kajisahau ka log in na ID nyingine?

 

[Kiranga]

ni vizuri basi socrates wetu wa tz

I am no Socrates.

For starters Socrates believed in the soul.

I don't even believe in believing.

 

[mwananthropolojia]

Mwanaanthropolojia kumbe ndo Anheuser? Mara kajisahau ka log in na ID nyingine?

hahaha umenifananisha mimi sio huyo anheuser, naamini nachoelewa

 

[Kiranga]

hahaha umenifananisha mimi sio huyo anheuser, naamini nachoelewa

Unaamini unachoelewa lakini hujajua bado(?).

 

[mwananthropolojia]

Unaamini unachoelewa lakini hujajua bado(?).

ndio maana tunafanya research to get to the bottom of it ,thats my life purpose.what is your purpose?

 

[Pascal Mayalla]

God does exist as much as the color of the national anthem exist.

If you choose to believe that the national anthem has a color, and it's notes are a bluish hue of fuchsia, and whenever you hear this song you see a certain part of your imagination envisioning this color, the national anthem assumes this bluish hue of fuchsia to you.

The national anthem will have this color.

This magnificent bluish hue of fuchsia that cannot be seen, because it is in the spiritual realm.

In spirit.

Whatever that illusionist refuge called "spirit" is.

Yes Mkuu Kiranga, that is exactly what that "I" is all about!, He does exist in imagination but His powers are real!. Its existance is only proved by the the power of its performance, such as "faith healing", "psychic powers", "metal bending", "levitations", "sightless vision", "voices from within", "telepathy", "telepotation" "teleknessis", "astra bodies", astra travels" "precognition", "preamonition", "de javu" etc atc, the power behind all this is the "I" power, released by imagination, concentration and meditation!.

I insist, by not believing that "God does exist in reality!", even in imagination only, then you have everything to loose and nothing to gain!. By believing alone, you have everything to gain and nothing to loose!, "its about power!". Watu wana pesa lakini they need power!. Hata ile vita ya ZZK, its about power!, ZZK has the "powers" to the magnitude none of his fellows has!. You need powers to do things!.

One good thing about God, huwapa uwezo wa kufanya mambo mazuri hata wale wasio mwamini!. Kuna watu hawezi kutamka neno "pole!", "asante" wala "samahani", kitendo tuu cha kuyatamka hayo, kinakuongezea thawabu zako kwenye "karma" yako!. Kushindwa kuyatamka you loose big time!. Hivyo ndivyo alivyo Mungu, ile kuukubali tuu uwepo wake, does you good!. Kukanusha kuwa God doesn't exist, you loose big time!.
You better start now wala hujachelewa, kwake hakuna time wala space!.
Pasco.

 

[Kiranga]

ndio maana tunafanya research to get to the bottom of it ,thats my life purpose.what is your purpose?

What is purpose?

 

[Kiranga]

Yes Mkuu Kiranga, that is exactly what that "I" is all about!, He does exist in imagination but His powers are real!. Its existance is only proved by the the power of its performance, such as "faith healing", "psychic powers", "metal bending", "levitations", "sightless vision", "voices from within", "telepathy", "telepotation" "teleknessis", "astra bodies", astra travels" "precognition", "preamonition", "de javu" etc atc, the power behind all this is the "I" power, released by imagination, concentration and meditation!.

I insist, by not believing that "God does exist in reality!", even in imagination only, then you have everything to loose and nothing to gain!. By believing alone, you have everything to gain and nothing to loose!, "its about power!". Watu wana pesa lakini they need power!. Hata ile vita ya ZZK, its about power!, ZZK has the "powers" to the magnitude none of his fellows has!. You need powers to do things!.

One good thing about God, huwapa uwezo wa kufanya mambo mazuri hata wale wasio mwamini!. Kuna watu hawezi kutamka neno "pole!", "asante" wala "samahani", kitendo tuu cha kuyatamka hayo, kinakuongezea thawabu zako kwenye "karma" yako!. Kushindwa kuyatamka you loose big time!. Hivyo ndivyo alivyo Mungu, ile kuukubali tuu uwepo wake, does you good!. Kukanusha kuwa God doesn't exist, you loose big time!.
You better start now wala hujachelewa, kwake hakuna time wala space!.
Pasco.

Placebo effect...therapy on the cheap...burying ones head in the sand...

 

[Pascal Mayalla]

ndio maana tunafanya research to get to the bottom of it ,thats my life purpose.what is your purpose?

Kusema ukweli, kuna watu ni wabishi tuu mpaka basi!, na ubishi wenyewe ni kubisha tuu ili mradi kubisha!, Existance ya Mungu is a "fact!", huwezi kuibishia "proven fact beyond any reasonable doubt!. Kuhusu uwepo wa Mungu, hata wanaojifanya hawaamini, "deep down inside", wanajua yupo! na powes zake wanazishudia zikifanya mambo kila kukicha!, bali wanabaki na ubishi tuu ili mradi kubisha!.

 

[Anheuser]

Unaamini unachoelewa lakini hujajua bado(?).

Sijui, naamini.

 

[Kiranga]

Kusema ukweli, kuna watu ni wabishi tuu mpaka basi!, na ubishi wenyewe ni kubisha tuu ili mradi kubisha!, Existance ya Mungu is a "fact!", huwezi kuibishia "proven fact beyond any reasonable doubt!. Kuhusu uwepo wa Mungu, hata wanaojifanya hawaamini, "deep down inside", wanajua yupo! na powes zake wanazishudia zikifanya mambo kila kukicha!, bali wanabaki na ubishi tuu ili mradi kubisha!.

"Existance" ni nini?

Fact ni nini?

 

[Pascal Mayalla]

"Existance" ni nini?

Fact ni nini?

Existence ni ku exist -"uwepo"
na Fact ni ukweli usiokwepeka!.

 

[Kiranga]

Existence ni ku exist -"uwepo"
na Fact ni ukweli usiokwepeka!.

Kumbe existence? Uliandika "existance".

Ukweli unaokwepeka ni upi na usiokwepeka ni upi?

Na utajuaje huu ni ukweli unaokwepeka, huu ni ukweli usiokwepeka, na huu ni uongo?

Utaamini vipi ukweli usiokwepeka?

Unajua tofauti ya kuamini na kujua?

 

[Pascal Mayalla]

Kumbe existence? Uliandika "existance".

Ukweli unaokwepeka ni upi na usiokwepeka ni upi?

Na utajuaje huu ni ukweli unaokwepeka, huu ni ukweli usiokwepeka, na huu ni uongo?

Utaamini vipi ukweli usiokwepeka?

Unajua tofauti ya kuamini na kujua?

Maswali haya ni magumu, nimeshindwa kuyajibu!, sorry!.

 

[Otorong'ong'o]

Hapa nikiri nimekuwa msomaji tuu...

 

[Kiranga]

Sijui, naamini.

Kuamini udhalili, kujua ubatili.

 

[Mnyakatari]

Pasco sio siri umenifurahisha sana kwenye hii thread,nimecheka mpaka wananishangaa hapa nilipo.By the way huyo ndo Kiranga mkuu.

 

[Tiger]

Yes Mkuu Kiranga, that is exactly what that "I" is all about!, He does exist in imagination but His powers are real!. Its existance is only proved by the the power of its performance, such as "faith healing", "psychic powers", "metal bending", "levitations", "sightless vision", "voices from within", "telepathy", "telepotation" "teleknessis", "astra bodies", astra travels" "precognition", "preamonition", "de javu" etc atc, the power behind all this is the "I" power, released by imagination, concentration and meditation!.

I insist, by not believing that "God does exist in reality!", even in imagination only, then you have everything to loose and nothing to gain!. By believing alone, you have everything to gain and nothing to loose!, "its about power!". Watu wana pesa lakini they need power!. Hata ile vita ya ZZK, its about power!, ZZK has the "powers" to the magnitude none of his fellows has!. You need powers to do things!.

One good thing about God, huwapa uwezo wa kufanya mambo mazuri hata wale wasio mwamini!. Kuna watu hawezi kutamka neno "pole!", "asante" wala "samahani", kitendo tuu cha kuyatamka hayo, kinakuongezea thawabu zako kwenye "karma" yako!. Kushindwa kuyatamka you loose big time!. Hivyo ndivyo alivyo Mungu, ile kuukubali tuu uwepo wake, does you good!. Kukanusha kuwa God doesn't exist, you loose big time!.
You better start now wala hujachelewa, kwake hakuna time wala space!.
Pasco.

Mkuu Pasco, nilivyokuelewa wenye hiyo "I"ni kwamba, mimi ni mungu,wewe ni mungu,Kiranga ni mungu e.t.c, kwahiyo nikiamini kwamba mimi nipo inatosha kuwa naamini uwepo wa mungu. Is that so?
Na hapo kwenye red na blue naona kama unajipinga mwenyewe, vinginevyo weka vizuri maelezo yako.
Sehemu nyingine hapo awali ulisema pepo na motoni ni hapa hapa duniani, tena ukajakuongeza kuwa bora uamini mumgu ili ukienda "huko" usimkute kuliko kutoamini halafu ukamkuta. Hapa unamaanisha kumkuta nani,wapi wakati mimi,wewe, na yule ndio mungu na pepo na motoni ni hapa hapa duniani?