Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

mwathadan said:
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On top of that Nairobi also gets infrastructure developments from the central government.

So tell us how this is the same with Dar
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Sasa huoni kama bado uko palepale nilikuambia leta planned budget ambayo inatokana na osr ( own source revenue ya Nairobi) maana hiyo ndo inajitegemea na haiko included kwenye national budget.
Ukiangalia allocation zako 40+ % inatoka central government.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kukuelimisha tu dar es salaam inatumia 70% ya osr kwenye developemnt expenditure not inclusive zile za Toka central government
 
Also:

D-by-D stands for Decentralisation by Devolution. It is a specific policy framework used to transfer power, responsibilities, and resources from a central government to local government authorities.

The primary benefit of Decentralisation by Devolution (D-by-D) over "only" devolution is the intentional, integrated transfer of three critical pillars—political, administrative, and fiscal power—rather than just shifting political authority alone.

The term is most famously associated with Tanzania, where the government formally adopted the D-by-D policy in 1998 as part of the Local Government Reform Programme (LGRP). It was designed to replace a highly centralised system with a decentralized one to empower local councils.
 
mwaiofhawaii said:
Kenya should be proud. The UN secretary General has announced Nairobi has become the UN biggest campus in the world …. More offices coming….. could the UN headquarters in New York be moved too in the future… you never know … Woow!!!…
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The spending of all those staff working at the facility.. all in Nairobi.
Millions of dollars per week
 
Sasa nini maana ya kuwa na Counties kama employees wa Counties wanalipwa na central government?

In Kenya, county government employees are officially employed and paid by their respective County Governments. However, the funds used for these salaries are primarily disbursed from the National Government (Central Government) as part of the equitable share of revenue, supplemented by local revenue generated by the county.
 
nairobae said:
Kazi ya National Government ni kutransfer pesa to counties, they have no business on how counties will prepare their budgets. Usiwe mjinga.
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Transfers sawa kwahiyo haijawa included kwenye national budget?
Hizo transfer tukisearch haziko budgeted?
Letsay hakuna popote kwenye national budget pesa iliyobajetiwa kwa ajili ya transfer?
Hivi unajua huwa kuna min budgets ambayo unatengeneza national budget?
County budget ni min budgets haijalishi mtazitumiaje hizo hela au mtapangaje, ndo maana utakuta kwenye national bajeti utakuta bajeti hata ya zile taasisi za serikali ambazo ni owned.
 
concordile 101 said:
Sasa huoni kama bado uko palepale nilikuambia leta planned budget ambayo inatokana na osr ( own source revenue ya Nairobi) maana hiyo ndo inajitegemea na haiko included kwenye national budget.
Ukiangalia allocation zako 40+ % inatoka central government.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kukuelimisha tu dar es salaam inatumia 70% ya osr kwenye developemnt expenditure not inclusive zile za Toka central governmentView attachment 3587802
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Hebu kwanza lete hizi figures za osr za dar municipalities ndo tuendelee na discussion. 2nd Your point was development budgets for counties is included in the central government development budget which is not true. County governments get a guaranteed share of the national government budget( which is approximately 15% of the total budget) , then the national government budgets for the remaining 85% . Lastly counties have more revenue sources compared to your municipalities can't be compareble
 
concordile 101 said:
Transfers sawa kwahiyo haijawa included kwenye national budget?
Hizo transfer tukisearch haziko budgeted?
Letsay hakuna popote kwenye national budget pesa iliyobajetiwa kwa ajili ya transfer?
Hivi unajua huwa kuna min budgets ambayo unatengeneza national budget?
County budget ni min budgets haijalishi mtazitumiaje hizo hela au mtapangaje, ndo maana utakuta kwenye national bajeti utakuta bajeti hata ya zile taasisi za serikali ambazo ni owned.
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Ooohhh sijui counties hazina infrastructure budgets, sahii sasa umechange tune. Sawa mkona budgets but you don't have the powers, your local governments hawawezi jenga anything without linking with the national government.
 
nairobae said:
Ooohhh sijui counties hazina infrastructure budgets, sahii sasa umechange tune. Sawa mkona budgets but you don't have the powers, your local governments hawawezi jenga anything without linking with the national government.
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Devolution is a foreign concept to them … CCM na Mama lazima waulizwe kwanza …😆😆
 
mwathadan said:
Hebu kwanza lete hizi figures za osr za dar municipalities ndo tuendelee na discussion. 2nd Your point was development budgets for counties is included in the central government development budget which is not true. County governments get a guaranteed share of the national government budget( which is approximately 15% of the total budget) , then the national government budgets for the remaining 85% . Lastly counties have more revenue sources compared to your municipalities can't be compareble
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Tupatie project moja iliyofanywa kwa pesa za own source ya County ya Nairobi.

Tunakupa Project ya Kinondoni Maniciple Stadium. Is from Own source revenue.

Remember Tanzania has more than 180 councils each inakuwa na own source revenue
 
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