Hoja iliyopo menzani ni Bible Error: Mwanzo 1:1-3a Kosa kubwa la Milenia, kutafsiri kutoka kwenye lugha ya KiebraniaTatizo unajifanya mjuaji sana.
Na unakurupuka tu kum attack mtu bila kujua mawazo yake kuhusu hoja zako. Mimi nilikukosoa kuhusu council of Nicaea na trinity. Sijatoa wazo lolote kuhusu Gen 1:1. Tatizo lako huna utulivu kuchambua hoja, una generalize.
Umeniita mkatoriki, hapo inaonyesha mtazamo ulionao ni kwamba kila anaeku challenge kuhusu trinity ni mkatoriki. Hapo hapo umejifanya mtaalam wa Tanakh huku ukidai mimi siijui.
Anyway kwanza huwa sijibu swali lenye command.
Huwa sitoi jibu la direct kwa swali lenye kejeri. Mtazamo wako kunihusu hauna impact yoyote kwangu. Ukitaka tujadiliane kwa references, acha commands and kejeri
Oh!! kumbe najiona 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Nilikuwa sijui.Halafu unajiona una uwezo wa kuchambua biblia 🤣🤣
You’re assuming modern cosmology onto the text. Research it if you want to get a picture of ancient cosmology. You are making assumptions that you don’t seem to realize are assumptions.
Kuielewa dini, fuata huu mtiririkoMimi ni mkristo nimelelewa katika ukristo tangu nikiwa mdogo.
Mwanzo tu wa biblia katika kitabu cha mwanzo 1:1-3a kunakuwa na makosa makubwa ambayo yamedumu karne na karne. Haya yalitokana na kutafsiri moja kwa moja lugha ya kiebrania kwenda kwenye Lugha ya Kigriki na hatimaye lugha ya kingereza.
Inasomeka
1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3. And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
Kutoka kwenye origin (Hebrew)
1. Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'aretz,
Maelezo Kwenye mstari wa kwanza
Kwenye kiebrania tunaona hapo anaongelea Elohim neno elohim ni wingi. Yaani Miungu. maana yake hapo anaongelea miungu na wala siyo Mungu mmoja. Umoja wa neno Elohim ni Eloah
Hapo tayari kunakuwa na mkanganyiko mwanzoni tu.
Maelezo zaidi
Katika hiyo 1:1-3a inasomwa yote kwa pamoja. Lakini yule aliyekuwa anatafsiri aliigawanya na kisha akahatibu maana nzima ya maelezo.
Kwenya hebrew bible haiongelei kuhusu the beginning of creation.
Bali inaelezea kuwa wakati Miungu walipokuwa wakiumba dunia dunia ilikuwa ukiwa.
Inaweza kusomeka:-
1 When Gods began to create heaven and earth—2 the earth being unformed and void, with darkness over the surface of the deep and a wind from Gods sweeping over the water—3a Gods said, ‘Let there be light
Hii hapa juu ndiyo tafsiri sahihi ya kitabu cha mwanzo kabisa.
Nitaendelea kuchanganua zaidi.
Watu wangu wanaangamizwa kwa kukosa maarifa
Kwanini wakatoliki mnapenda kutumia neno Kristu badala ya KristoKuielewa dini, fuata huu mtiririko
Animism - polytheism - monotheism na agano la kale liliandikwa Kwa kufuata huo utamaduni, changamoto inayopelekea watu kushindwa kuielewa bibilia ni pale wanapoamua kuuvaa ukristu na kusoma bibilia kama kitabu kitakatifu,
Bibilia sio kitabu kitakatifu, ni makosa na uongo wa kikristu wa kutaka kueneza injili ya yesu aliye hai ndio ulitufikisha kwenye huo utakatifu, ndio maana Kila kilichoandikwa ndani kinapoteza maana na kuonekana kama uongo,
Kuhusu hio issue ya Miungu, mbona ipo wazi kwamba kabla ya Mungu mmoja, Ibada ya nyuma ilikuwa ni ya Mungu zaidi ya mmoja(polytheism), refer the Iliad and Odyssey by Homer,
Mimi sio mkatoliki boss niwie radhiKwanini wakatoliki mnapenda kutumia neno Kristu badala ya Kristo
The grammatical understanding of Genesis 1:1 is simple, and the most fundamental principle for learning any language is to follow the ease of grammar.
Hebu ngoja kwanza tuanze na maamuzi yaliyotokea kwenye kikao cha kwanza cha Nicaea
The Nicene Creed
We believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God,
Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made;
of the same essence as the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven;
he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary,
and was made human.
He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered and was buried.
The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again with glory
to judge the living and the dead.
His kingdom will never end.
And we believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life.
He proceeds from the Father and the Son,
and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified.
He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church.
We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look forward to the resurrection of the dead,
and to life in the world to come. Amen.
Tunaanze na hiki hapa ambacho ndio msingi wa Ukristo. Hakikuwepo kabla
My God! Umesoma biblical exegesis au hermeneutics kweli? Kwenye uandishi wa Biblia kuna matumizi ya lugha ya heshima kwa Mungu (majestic language) - 'kutumia wingi mahali pa umoja', na wala siyo makosa ya uandishi. Hata katika lugha kama Kifaransa kuna matumizi ya lugha kama hiyo. Mfano, ukimwongelea mzazi au mtu official unatumia neno 'vous' = 'nyinyi'. Mfano, "comment allez-vous": How are you? Lakini kama agemate, colleague, rafiki, utasema: "comment ca va"?: How are you? Kwenye lugha kama Chichewa, kumu'address' mzazi, mtu official au kumsalimia utasema: 'Ali bwanji'...? Sawa na kusema "Hamjambo"? Lakini kumu'address' agemate, rafiki, rafiki etc: utasema: 'mulibwanji'...? 'Ali bwanji' ni wingi wa 'muli bwanji'. Ukitumia 'ali bwanji' kwa mtu mmoja, Ina maana umetumia 'majestic language'...umeonyesha heshima kwa mtu unayemsalimia. Wakati ukitumia 'muli bwanji' kama ni mtu mkubwa kwa cheo au umri atajisikia kwamba umempa salamu ya kawaida/umemdharau. Style ya uandishi wa Kitabu cha Mwanzo, inafuata tradition hii ya majestic language, lakini siyo kosa la kiuandishi, bali style ya uandishi.
Historia ya in the beginning inaongelea beginning ya ulimwengu tu yaani planet earth na hizo sayari zingine zinazoonekana angani kwa darubini au satelliteDETAILS YA HOJA
Hoja kubwa zaidi ninayoiongelea hapa wambayo watu wanaikwepa kuiongelea ni:-
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Hapa ndipo makosa yaliyopo.
Yaani unaongelea In the Beginning maana yake kabla ya hapo yule ambaye aliumba mbingu na nchi; alikuwa hafanyi chochote. Basi ikafika kipindi ndipo akaanza.
Hoja yangu ya kwanza kubwa ni hiyo hapo.
Then tutakuja kuongelea ile issue ya wingi.
Historia ya in the beginning inaongelea beginning ya ulimwengu tu yaani planet earth na hizo sayari zingine zinazoonekana angani kwa darubini au satellite
Haiongelei beginning ya ukimwengu usioonekana kwa satellite au darubini
Huko kuna vitabu vyake vya in the beginning huko ukija kufa ukajaliwa kufika huko utakutana na hivyo vitabu Sababu hata kitabu cha Biblia cha ufunuo kinaeleza wazi kuwa siku ya kiyama kuna vitabu kule vipo ambavyo vinarekodi maisha ya kila mtu ya kila siku ya mema na mabaya ili siku ya kiyama kitabu chake kikitolewa maktaba ahukumiwe kwa haki wapi aende
Bible ni kitabu kinachongelea in the begging ya Universe tu usichanganye vitabu
Historia ya in the beginning inaongelea beginning ya ulimwengu tu yaani planet earth na hizo sayari zingine zinazoonekana angani kwa darubini au satellite
Haiongelei beginning ya ukimwengu usioonekana kwa satellite au darubini
Huko kuna vitabu vyake vya in the beginning huko ukija kufa ukajaliwa kufika huko utakutana na hivyo vitabu Sababu hata kitabu cha Biblia cha ufunuo kinaeleza wazi kuwa siku ya kiyama kuna vitabu kule vipo ambavyo vinarekodi maisha ya kila mtu ya kila siku ya mema na mabaya ili siku ya kiyama kitabu chake kikitolewa maktaba ahukumiwe kwa haki wapi aende
Bible ni kitabu kinachongelea in the begging ya Universe tu usichanganye vitabu
Asante Sana Mjuni kwa Kunitag soon ntatoa Neno kuhusu Andiko hilo la Bereshit bara Elohim..DR Mambo Jambo tunaomba mchango wako mkuu.
Henotheism, or kathenotheism.. nimeipenda zaidi.Asante Sana Mjuni kwa Kunitag soon ntatoa Neno kuhusu Andiko hilo la Bereshit bara Elohim..
Kwa Upana zaidi japo nimeona Wengi wamemwijia Juu Mtoa Mada but Its actually Somehow yuko Correct but Nitakuja Kuelezea Pamoja Na TANAKH na hata maneno aliyotamka Yesu msalabani, Wengi wakristo, Waislamu Na Wayahudi Tunafikiri Tunaabudu Monotheism..
But Actually sio Monotheism ni Kitu kinaitwa Monolatry.. ..
Na wengine Huenda Mbali zaidi na Kuabudu Henotheism, or kathenotheism..
Nitakuja kama Dakila 45 Hivi kuna Kijikazi nakimalizia hapa..
CC: Venus Star
Asante sana mkuu, tunasubiri.Asante Sana Mjuni kwa Kunitag soon ntatoa Neno kuhusu Andiko hilo la Bereshit bara Elohim..
Kwa Upana zaidi japo nimeona Wengi wamemwijia Juu Mtoa Mada but Its actually Somehow yuko Correct but Nitakuja Kuelezea Pamoja Na TANAKH na hata maneno aliyotamka Yesu msalabani, Wengi wakristo, Waislamu Na Wayahudi Tunafikiri Tunaabudu Monotheism..
But Actually sio Monotheism ni Kitu kinaitwa Monolatry.. ..
Na wengine Huenda Mbali zaidi na Kuabudu Henotheism, or kathenotheism..
Nitakuja kama Dakila 45 Hivi kuna Kijikazi nakimalizia hapa..
CC: Venus Star
Wewe unaongelea ipi?UNAONGELEA BIBLIA IPI ???
Satanic bible ?? Gay bible, Mormon bible , RSV. AV. NWT, KJV , QJV, au maelfu ya biblia yaliyo tofauti ??
Mimi sijaongelea biblia kwenye comment yako au wewe umekuwa Mimi??Yaani mambo ya Mungu unayafanyia mchezo??Wewe unaongelea ipi?