Bible's verses contradictions

[gigabyte]

Hakuna mkanganyiko wowote kwenye hicho kitabu.Tatizo ni wewe mwenyewe uelewa wako na unaisoma kwa muktadha gani.Kwakifup sana nikusaidie wewe na wengine hapo juu.ni hivi bible iliandikwa badae baada ya tukio la uumbaji,kwaiyo mwandishi kuna sehem anatoa hints za kilichofanyika kisha anaelezea tukio lenyewe lilivyokua.Na uko kwenye vitabu vya agano jipya hao waandishi ni watu tofaut lakin wanaandika jambo lile lile kwaiyo lazima kila mtu utamsoma kwa mtazamo wake jinsi alivyoliandika yeye.Kwa mfano chukua watu 10 walioona tukio la ajali alafu waambie ilikuaje,utapata jibu.Na pia kumbuka kwenye biblia kuna hadithi,mithali,mafumbo,nyimbo,sheria,kanuni,matukio ya papo kwa hapo namengine na yote hayo yameandikwa na waandishi tofaut tofaut kwa zama na wakat tofaut tofaut kwaiyo maandishi yao ndo yaliunganishwa pamoja kupata kitabu kimoja biblia.Kwaiyo haijichanganyi kwa lolote.

 

[Emmadogo]

mkuu contradiction is what came first,..ni muhimu sababu tunaambiwa eva alitoka ubavuni mwa adam,lakini ghafla unaambiwa eva aliumbwa kabla ya adam...mimi naona contradiction

Hapo ndio naulizaga je EVA ALIUMBWA AU ALITENGENEZWA ?
MAANA HUYU WA KWANZA ALIUMBWA BUT HUYU WA PILI NAONA NI KAMA ALITENGENEZWA

 

[olyanu]

Usichokijua ni usiku wa giza. Ukiangalia kwa undani hizo zinazoitwa contradictions ni maandiko yaliyotoka ktk vitabu tofauti. Na hata kama ni kitabu kimoja yaliyotokea enzi hizo ni mengi mno kiasi ambacho yangeandikwa yote dunia nzima ingejaa maandiko ya kibiblia. Kwahiyo tofauti hizo kimsingi zimetokana na u tofauti wa waandishi. Lakini pia kumbuka biblia ya kwanza iliandikwa kwa kiyunani/ebrania. Tofauti inayoweza kuiona inatokana na uelewa wa mfasiri. Lakini yote ktk yote biblia ni neno la kweli na amina

 

[Emmadogo]

king james version ndio rubbish kabisa,najua hadi lini imetungwa na wakina nani walihusika kuitunga....halafu kuisoma biblia au kuran sio ishu,si vitabu tu vilivyotungwa na watu

King james ndio inashida zaidi

 

[olyanu]

Jambo jingine ili uelewe biblia vizuri unahitaji kumwomba roho mtakatifu akufunulie maana halisi ya maandiko hayo

 

[Mtangoo]

BIBLE’S CONTRADICTIONS

3. Genesis 32:30 and numbers 14:14
Men have seen God

John 1:18
No man has seen God

Wafuasi wa Yesu tusaidieni hapa
NOTE:Mimi sio mkristo,budha wala muislam

Same old trick of the devil. Misquote, cast doubt and become the judge and make God defendant and you win.
Stupid indeed.

Just to help you and all that think like you:
1. Assuming the Bible is false and hence the God of the Bible does not exist, then you are NOT created in God image and you are just a better monkey or rather a makeup of atoms. Your brain is series of chemical reactions and nothing more. If that is the case according to your worldview, what is contradiction? Do atom in laboratory bottles contradict? By the way do molecules even ask questions? Why would us who believe are made in image of God hence can think answer someone who doesn't believe is anything special?

2. Assuming you have stolen Our Biblical Worldview that you are special being (stealing context from the Bible you don't believe in to disprove that same Bible, funny huh?), then why are you deceiving people? First you just truncated the second verse so that it fits your preconceived notion. As a matter of fact, you just created a contradiction that does not exist. That speaks volumes of your character: a big deceiver who seeks to deceive unsuspecting. the fact that you have bent this verse alone should cast doubt on the rest of your deceptions.

For sake of those you are seeking to deceive I will expose your deception and I will quote both in full context.
"And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved" (Gen 32:30).

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." (John 1:18)

I have tried to find contradiction but could not find. We Christians know that Creator God is Triune. The Father is God, The Son is God and The Spirit is God but One God not three. Three Persons yet in one Godhead. Don't worry if you don't understand it. You don't understand a lot of things that are true.

So No one have ever seen God except in the person of the Son (who took flesh many times temporarily in the Old Testament times and once permanently in person of Jesus of Nazareth). So Jacob and Abraham, et al saw Jesus Christ in His pre-incarnate body. The Son have always been doing that! So Yes, no one have seen God the Father nor the Spirit but the Son took flesh and walked among with us. What a Loving God, not sitting there dictating but came and experienced the pains of broken world so that when I cry in prayer He understands perfectly what it means.

So there is No single contradiction in the Bible. But with tricks like the devil you can make a fake one!

 

[Emmadogo]

SWALI JINGINE:
WHY HUYU ADAM WA KWANZA ALIAMBIA AKATAWALE NCHI/DUNIA YOTE NA ALE VITU VYOTE MATUNDA NA WANYAMA KIWE CHAKULA CHAKE
THEN GHAFLA HUYU WA PILI ANACHUKULIWA ANAWEKWA BUSTANINI AICHUNGE NA KUIANGALIA PLUS AKAPEWA MTI WA KULA NA ASIORUHUSIWA KULA?
NA PIA HUYU WA KWANZA WAKAAMBIWA WAZALIANE WAIJAZE DUNIA
BUT HUYU WA PILI ALIVYOLETEWA EVE HAKIAMBIWA WAZALIANE.

 

[nyabhingi]

Same old trick of the devil. Misquote, cast doubt and become the judge and make God defendant and you win.
Stupid indeed.

Just to help you and all that think like you:
1. Assuming the Bible is false and hence the God of the Bible does not exist, then you are NOT created in God image and you are just a better monkey or rather a makeup of atoms. Your brain is series of chemical reactions and nothing more. If that is the case according to your worldview, what is contradiction? Do atom in laboratory bottles contradict? By the way do molecules even ask questions? Why would us who believe are made in image of God hence can think answer someone who doesn't believe is anything special?

2. Assuming you have stolen Our Biblical Worldview that you are special being (stealing context from the Bible you don't believe in to disprove that same Bible, funny huh?), then why are you deceiving people? First you just truncated the second verse so that it fits your preconceived notion. As a matter of fact, you just created a contradiction that does not exist. That speaks volumes of your character: a big deceiver who seeks to deceive unsuspecting. the fact that you have bent this verse alone should cast doubt on the rest of your deceptions.

For sake of those you are seeking to deceive I will expose your deception and I will quote both in full context.
"And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved" (Gen 32:30).

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." (John 1:18)

I have tried to find contradiction but could not find. We Christians know that Creator God is Triune. The Father is God, The Son is God and The Spirit is God but One God not three. Three Persons yet in one Godhead. Don't worry if you don't understand it. You don't understand a lot of things that are true.

So No one have ever seen God except in the person of the Son (who took flesh many times temporarily in the Old Testament times and once permanently in person of Jesus of Nazareth). So Jacob and Abraham, et al saw Jesus Christ in His pre-incarnate body. The Son have always been doing that! So Yes, no one have seen God the Father nor the Spirit but the Son took flesh and walked among with us. What a Loving God, not sitting there dictating but came and experienced the pains of broken world so that when I cry in prayer He understands perfectly what it means.

So there is No single contradiction in the Bible. But with tricks like the devil you can make a fake one!

i put forward eight contradictions bu you chose one to defend(which you also failed to defend).
is this some kind of a joke?so you believe jesus is god!!!!! have you ever heard of the council of NICEA?
speaking of the holy trinity,have you ever heard of OSIRIS,ISIS and HORUS?(from ancient egypt)

let me share with you some of figures who had same characters as your jesus,the difference is,these events happened/were wrote hundreds of years before your so called bible and jesus:

1. Asklepios healed the sick, raised the dead, and was known as the savior and redeemer.
2. Hercules was born of a divine father and mortal mother and was known as the savior of the world. Prophets foretold his birth and claimed he would be a king, which started a search by a leader who wanted to kill him. He walked on water and told his mother, "Don't cry, I'm going to heaven." when he died. As he passed he said, "It is finished."
3. Dionysus was literally the "Son of God", was born of a virgin mother, and was commonly depicted riding a donkey. He healed the sick and turned water to wine. He was killed but was resurrected and became immortal. His greatest accomplishment was his own death, which delivers humanity itself.
4. Osiris did the same things. He was born of a virgin, was considered the first true king of the people, and when he died he rose from the grave and went to heaven.
5. Osiris's son, Horus, was known as the "light of the world", "The good shepherd", and "the lamb". He was also referred to as, "The way, the truth, and the life." His symbol was a cross.
6. Mithra's birthday was celebrated on the 25th of December, his birth was witnessed by local shepherds who brought him gifts, had 12 disciples, and when he was done on earth he had a final meal before going up to heaven. On judgment day he'll return to pass judgment on the living and the dead. The good will go to heaven, and the evil will die in a giant fire. His holiday is on Sunday (he's the Sun God). His followers called themselves "brothers", and their leaders "fathers". They had baptism and a meal ritual where symbolic flesh and blood were eaten. Heaven was in the sky, and hell was below with demons and sinners.
7. Krishna had a miraculous conception that wise men were able to come to because they were guided by a star. After he was born an area ruler tried to have him found and killed. His parents were warned by a divine messenger, however, and they escaped and was met by shepherds. The boy grew up to be the mediator between God and man.
8. Buddha's mother was told by an angel that she'd give birth to a holy child destined to be a savior. As a child he teaches the priests in his temple about religion while his parents look for him. He starts his religious career at roughly 30 years of age and is said to have spoken to 12 disciples on his deathbed. One of the disciples is his favorite, and another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around speaking in parables and metaphors. He called himself "the son of man" and was referred to as, "prophet", "master", and "Lord". He healed the sick, cured the blind and deaf, and he walked on water. One of his disciples tried to walk on water as well but sunk because his faith wasn't strong enough.
9. Apollonius of Tyana (a contemporary of Jesus) performed countless miracles (healing sick and crippled, restored sight, casted out demons, etc.) His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. He knew scripture really well as a child. He was crucified, rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples to prove his power before going to heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He was known as, "The Son of God".

 

[Tanwise]

mbona unaniletea mawazo ya watu...i do not need people's opinions
labda niambie umeyatoa haya kwenye biblia gani?mimi nimetumia king james version ambayo wakristo wote wanaitumia

Mawazo Ya Watu VP?? Umesoma mwenyewe umechemka ndo maana umebadilisha dini...Wa2 wangu wanaangamia Kwa kukosa maarifa.

 

[nyabhingi]

Mawazo Ya Watu VP?? Umesoma mwenyewe umechemka ndo maana umebadilisha dini...Wa2 wangu wanaangamia Kwa kukosa maarifa.

soma vizuri ulicholeta utagundua ni mtu alikuwa anajaribu kuclarify....
unapomuongelea yesu wako soma hawa waliokuwepo kabla yake,halafu uniambie umegundua nini..
note:mimi sio mkristo wala muislam

1. Asklepios healed the sick, raised the dead, and was known as the savior and redeemer.
2. Hercules was born of a divine father and mortal mother and was known as the savior of the world. Prophets foretold his birth and claimed he would be a king, which started a search by a leader who wanted to kill him. He walked on water and told his mother, "Don't cry, I'm going to heaven." when he died. As he passed he said, "It is finished."
3. Dionysus was literally the "Son of God", was born of a virgin mother, and was commonly depicted riding a donkey. He healed the sick and turned water to wine. He was killed but was resurrected and became immortal. His greatest accomplishment was his own death, which delivers humanity itself.
4. Osiris did the same things. He was born of a virgin, was considered the first true king of the people, and when he died he rose from the grave and went to heaven.
5. Osiris's son, Horus, was known as the "light of the world", "The good shepherd", and "the lamb". He was also referred to as, "The way, the truth, and the life." His symbol was a cross.
6. Mithra's birthday was celebrated on the 25th of December, his birth was witnessed by local shepherds who brought him gifts, had 12 disciples, and when he was done on earth he had a final meal before going up to heaven. On judgment day he'll return to pass judgment on the living and the dead. The good will go to heaven, and the evil will die in a giant fire. His holiday is on Sunday (he's the Sun God). His followers called themselves "brothers", and their leaders "fathers". They had baptism and a meal ritual where symbolic flesh and blood were eaten. Heaven was in the sky, and hell was below with demons and sinners.
7. Krishna had a miraculous conception that wise men were able to come to because they were guided by a star. After he was born an area ruler tried to have him found and killed. His parents were warned by a divine messenger, however, and they escaped and was met by shepherds. The boy grew up to be the mediator between God and man.
8. Buddha's mother was told by an angel that she'd give birth to a holy child destined to be a savior. As a child he teaches the priests in his temple about religion while his parents look for him. He starts his religious career at roughly 30 years of age and is said to have spoken to 12 disciples on his deathbed. One of the disciples is his favorite, and another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around speaking in parables and metaphors. He called himself "the son of man" and was referred to as, "prophet", "master", and "Lord". He healed the sick, cured the blind and deaf, and he walked on water. One of his disciples tried to walk on water as well but sunk because his faith wasn't strong enough.
9. Apollonius of Tyana (a contemporary of Jesus) performed countless miracles (healing sick and crippled, restored sight, casted out demons, etc.) His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. He knew scripture really well as a child. He was crucified, rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples to prove his power before going to heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He was known as, "The Son of God".

 

[Bst1]

nani aliumbwa kwanza?adam au eva?

Adam

 

[nyabhingi]

Adam

lete ushahidi

 

[Bst1]

lete ushahidi

Genesis 2:20-22

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

 

[Al-Watan]

Contradictions za kwenye Quran na Biblia ni kwa sababu vitabu hivyo si vya Mungu. Vimeandikwa na watu tu.

Mungu huyo hayupo.

Ukielewa hili yaliyobaki ni siasa tu kama za CHADEMA na CCM.

Kama za US na North Korea.

Tofauti hizi za sasa na zile za kale.

 

[Mtangoo]

i put forward eight contradictions bu you chose one to defend(which you also failed to defend).

Its a wonder someone who believes we are nothing but molecules tries even to reason. Let me help you, you cannot reason more than chemicals in laboratory or monkeys in the jungle can. Accoding to your worldview you are nothing but an ape. So your whole questions on "contradictions, "defend" and "fail" are meaningless. You do not have any base to ask let alone reason.

Trying to reason (using the laws of logic for example) or infer morality (that contradiction is a bad thing) implies you are special creating with morality and mind to reason. All the two are things your worldview cannot account for. So there is no contradiction in your worldview nor there is anything bad or good (so you shouldn't be ranting about "bad" thing namely contradiction in the Bible)

In short your worldview is self destruct and as such you steal my Biblical worldview to make sense of such words as "contradictions, "defend" and "fail" which makes no sense according to your beliefs.

So stop ranting about things that makes no sense in your worldview and stop stealing foundations from Biblical Christianity and trying to use them to disprove the same. You make no sense in your argument at all.

is this some kind of a joke?so you believe jesus is god!!!!! have you ever heard of the council of NICEA?
speaking of the holy trinity,have you ever heard of OSIRIS,ISIS and HORUS?(from ancient egypt)

You talked about contradiction and I clearly showed your deception and now you have jumped to a different topic? Oh! Yeah! Am already used to people like you who makes gazillion of rabbit trails that leads to no where.

Just know that your original post is deceptive and that as I have shown you have no ground to reason at all!

 

[Mtangoo]

Contradictions za kwenye Quran na Biblia ni kwa sababu vitabu hivyo si vya Mungu. Vimeandikwa na watu tu.

Mungu huyo hayupo.

Ukielewa hili yaliyobaki ni siasa tu kama za CHADEMA na CCM.

Kama za US na North Korea.

Tofauti hizi za sasa na zile za kale.

Karibu Kiranga sijui nini kilitokea kwenye akaunti yako ile. Ila karibu sana!

 

[Al-Watan]

Karibu Kiranga sijui nini kilitokea kwenye akaunti yako ile. Ila karibu sana!

Mimi si Kiranga. Kwanza tukubaliane hulo.

 

[Msolo]

Okay...

Kwahiyo namba moja siyo contradiction.Unaonaje uka edit hiyo thread yako zikabaki hizo zingine kisha tuendelee kukagua moja baada ya nyingine?

Nakushauri hivyo maana kuendelea kuonesha namba moja ni contradiction wakati ushakubali siyo jambo zuri mkuu....

Mkuu Eiyer shukrani kwa ufafanuzi na kujikita kwenye mada.

 

[mlimilwa]

1. Genesis chapter 1
God created adam and eve

Genesis chapter 2
God created adam and then eve later

hiki ni kitu kimoja.
wote waliumbwa na Mungu. chapter 2 imeelezea kwenye huo uumbaji jinsi proces/mchakato ulivyofanyika.

Ni tofauti.

 

[chuma cha mjerumani]

Ni tofauti.

ok baki ulivyo.